No idea, but i've heard UF is practically free
Tax Law Rankings
Posted Sep 11, 2007 20:46
Posted Oct 10, 2007 22:15
I decided to go for the UF LLM Taxation program, i`m a foreing lawyer... my question is... is it difficult to get in to the UF LLM program?
Posted Dec 13, 2007 21:37
Ivan, i've learned a lot from your answers in this thread. thank you very much. can you shed more light on the difference an LLM in taxation and an LLM in international tax? I don't have any prior tax background, and which speciality is more advantageous, in your view, to land a job in big US law firms? thanks for your input.
Posted Jan 30, 2008 03:44
For Rob Attorney and Ivan, or those who know the answers,
I am currently working on my JD (tier 3) and interested applying to the tax program at the top 3. I didn't do particularly well in my first year but I am receiving decent grades in my 2nd year and also in tax courses. It seems like people who went to NYU Tax LLM were already biglaw candidates before starting their LLM.
1) Do you know anyone who is not doing as well after NYU Tax LLM but with lower ranked JD? I want to know what happens to people with a lower ranked JD or didn't do well enough for biglaw but still somehow managed to get into NYU Tax LLM.
2) Well since there's no guarantee that I will get into NYU Tax, I'd like to know the answer to the same question (#1) for UF or GULC as well if you know.
3) If I want to have some working experience in tax after law school, what kind of work experiences would be good to have for applying tax llm, especially at NYU? I am concerned that not many employers will hire me to do any of their tax work right after JD, only having finished several tax courses in law school. What if I cannot find a position in tax law?
4) I'd like to know the career potentials and options as a tax lawyer (with LLM) at law firms and at corporations. Is switching between the two possible? What is the earning potential b/w the two and how are the working hours?
Thank you so much!
I am currently working on my JD (tier 3) and interested applying to the tax program at the top 3. I didn't do particularly well in my first year but I am receiving decent grades in my 2nd year and also in tax courses. It seems like people who went to NYU Tax LLM were already biglaw candidates before starting their LLM.
1) Do you know anyone who is not doing as well after NYU Tax LLM but with lower ranked JD? I want to know what happens to people with a lower ranked JD or didn't do well enough for biglaw but still somehow managed to get into NYU Tax LLM.
2) Well since there's no guarantee that I will get into NYU Tax, I'd like to know the answer to the same question (#1) for UF or GULC as well if you know.
3) If I want to have some working experience in tax after law school, what kind of work experiences would be good to have for applying tax llm, especially at NYU? I am concerned that not many employers will hire me to do any of their tax work right after JD, only having finished several tax courses in law school. What if I cannot find a position in tax law?
4) I'd like to know the career potentials and options as a tax lawyer (with LLM) at law firms and at corporations. Is switching between the two possible? What is the earning potential b/w the two and how are the working hours?
Thank you so much!
Posted Feb 18, 2008 14:28
I have a few questions:
1. When you refer to Washington is that Seattle or St. Louis?
2. Is the list of the top 12 programs posted the only American schools that admit American students to tax llm programs?
3. As a B student at a tier 2 law school which LLM programs are likely out of my range as far as getting accepted?
1. When you refer to Washington is that Seattle or St. Louis?
2. Is the list of the top 12 programs posted the only American schools that admit American students to tax llm programs?
3. As a B student at a tier 2 law school which LLM programs are likely out of my range as far as getting accepted?
Posted Feb 19, 2008 00:17
I have a few questions:
1. When you refer to Washington is that Seattle or St. Louis?
- It's University of Washington in Seattle.
2. Is the list of the top 12 programs posted the only American schools that admit American students to tax llm programs?
- If you're referring to the list in this thread, yeah they are American schools but they admit international students too.
3. As a B student at a tier 2 law school which LLM programs are likely out of my range as far as getting accepted?
- I am wondering about the same question. Some posters told me that you can still get into GULC or UF being a B student as long as you do really well in tax courses (maybe take around 3 tax courses) and get some tax experience such as internship or something.
1. When you refer to Washington is that Seattle or St. Louis?
- It's University of Washington in Seattle.
2. Is the list of the top 12 programs posted the only American schools that admit American students to tax llm programs?
- If you're referring to the list in this thread, yeah they are American schools but they admit international students too.
3. As a B student at a tier 2 law school which LLM programs are likely out of my range as far as getting accepted?
- I am wondering about the same question. Some posters told me that you can still get into GULC or UF being a B student as long as you do really well in tax courses (maybe take around 3 tax courses) and get some tax experience such as internship or something.
</blockquote>
Posted Feb 19, 2008 01:10
I have a few questions:
1. When you refer to Washington is that Seattle or St. Louis?
- It's University of Washington in Seattle.
2. Is the list of the top 12 programs posted the only American schools that admit American students to tax llm programs?
- If you're referring to the list in this thread, yeah they are American schools but they admit international students too.
3. As a B student at a tier 2 law school which LLM programs are likely out of my range as far as getting accepted?
- I am wondering about the same question. Some posters told me that you can still get into GULC or UF being a B student as long as you do really well in tax courses (maybe take around 3 tax courses) and get some tax experience such as internship or something.
1. Thank you for the clarification.
2. Are those 12 the only 12 programs out there or are there others?
3. I wonder if having an accounting degree and having passed the CPA exam will increase my chances of getting in to one of the top schools?
1. When you refer to Washington is that Seattle or St. Louis?
- It's University of Washington in Seattle.
2. Is the list of the top 12 programs posted the only American schools that admit American students to tax llm programs?
- If you're referring to the list in this thread, yeah they are American schools but they admit international students too.
3. As a B student at a tier 2 law school which LLM programs are likely out of my range as far as getting accepted?
- I am wondering about the same question. Some posters told me that you can still get into GULC or UF being a B student as long as you do really well in tax courses (maybe take around 3 tax courses) and get some tax experience such as internship or something.
</blockquote></blockquote>
1. Thank you for the clarification.
2. Are those 12 the only 12 programs out there or are there others?
3. I wonder if having an accounting degree and having passed the CPA exam will increase my chances of getting in to one of the top schools?
Posted Feb 25, 2008 17:42
3. I wonder if having an accounting degree and having passed the CPA exam will increase my chances of getting in to one of the top schools?
I can only imagine it helps but to what extent I am not sure
3. I wonder if having an accounting degree and having passed the CPA exam will increase my chances of getting in to one of the top schools?</blockquote>
I can only imagine it helps but to what extent I am not sure
Posted Mar 01, 2008 03:51
Hi, I'm a tax llm student at NYU this year.
1. I don't think I understand your question. I think doing the program would only make you worse off after doing it as opposed to not doing it, if you wanted to practice in an unrelated area of law, say criminal law for example.
I know people that wouldn't have been considered for biglaw before having done the program, that were offered jobs at biglaw afterwards. However, simply being hired doesn't necessairly mean you can make partner. I think a lower JD school may become an issue at some point, unless you're really good bringing in clients. Also, as an aside, the BigLaw market for new intl and M&A tax associates is doing poorly this year. Estate Planning generally requires 2-3 years work experience doing estate planning.
2. Didn't apply. Keep your hopes up. I know someone that got into NYU but not GULC. It's just about how well you market yourself and your capabilities in your personal statement and resume - and how much INTEREST you show in the program.
3. I didn't have tax work experience either. I had law clerk and judicial externship experiences. I, as well as other people I know, have employers that offered to pay our air travel expenses to interview us despite the lack of experience. Again, its how well you market yourself and communicate your thoughts.
4. I also interviewed at a few in house legal departments. If it's a large corporation, it may pay starting associates on par with say a Big Four Accounting firm in NYC. I wouldn't expect anything much higher than 115K for a tax department in house with no experience. If you move up to Senior VP & Ass. GC, you might be in the high 200s. No profit sharing potential, and mandatory retirement at 65. Remember you're just a corporate expense, if you go in house.
For Rob Attorney and Ivan, or those who know the answers,
I am currently working on my JD (tier 3) and interested applying to the tax program at the top 3. I didn't do particularly well in my first year but I am receiving decent grades in my 2nd year and also in tax courses. It seems like people who went to NYU Tax LLM were already biglaw candidates before starting their LLM.
1) Do you know anyone who is not doing as well after NYU Tax LLM but with lower ranked JD? I want to know what happens to people with a lower ranked JD or didn't do well enough for biglaw but still somehow managed to get into NYU Tax LLM.
2) Well since there's no guarantee that I will get into NYU Tax, I'd like to know the answer to the same question (#1) for UF or GULC as well if you know.
3) If I want to have some working experience in tax after law school, what kind of work experiences would be good to have for applying tax llm, especially at NYU? I am concerned that not many employers will hire me to do any of their tax work right after JD, only having finished several tax courses in law school. What if I cannot find a position in tax law?
4) I'd like to know the career potentials and options as a tax lawyer (with LLM) at law firms and at corporations. Is switching between the two possible? What is the earning potential b/w the two and how are the working hours?
Thank you so much!
1. I don't think I understand your question. I think doing the program would only make you worse off after doing it as opposed to not doing it, if you wanted to practice in an unrelated area of law, say criminal law for example.
I know people that wouldn't have been considered for biglaw before having done the program, that were offered jobs at biglaw afterwards. However, simply being hired doesn't necessairly mean you can make partner. I think a lower JD school may become an issue at some point, unless you're really good bringing in clients. Also, as an aside, the BigLaw market for new intl and M&A tax associates is doing poorly this year. Estate Planning generally requires 2-3 years work experience doing estate planning.
2. Didn't apply. Keep your hopes up. I know someone that got into NYU but not GULC. It's just about how well you market yourself and your capabilities in your personal statement and resume - and how much INTEREST you show in the program.
3. I didn't have tax work experience either. I had law clerk and judicial externship experiences. I, as well as other people I know, have employers that offered to pay our air travel expenses to interview us despite the lack of experience. Again, its how well you market yourself and communicate your thoughts.
4. I also interviewed at a few in house legal departments. If it's a large corporation, it may pay starting associates on par with say a Big Four Accounting firm in NYC. I wouldn't expect anything much higher than 115K for a tax department in house with no experience. If you move up to Senior VP & Ass. GC, you might be in the high 200s. No profit sharing potential, and mandatory retirement at 65. Remember you're just a corporate expense, if you go in house.
<blockquote>For Rob Attorney and Ivan, or those who know the answers,
I am currently working on my JD (tier 3) and interested applying to the tax program at the top 3. I didn't do particularly well in my first year but I am receiving decent grades in my 2nd year and also in tax courses. It seems like people who went to NYU Tax LLM were already biglaw candidates before starting their LLM.
1) Do you know anyone who is not doing as well after NYU Tax LLM but with lower ranked JD? I want to know what happens to people with a lower ranked JD or didn't do well enough for biglaw but still somehow managed to get into NYU Tax LLM.
2) Well since there's no guarantee that I will get into NYU Tax, I'd like to know the answer to the same question (#1) for UF or GULC as well if you know.
3) If I want to have some working experience in tax after law school, what kind of work experiences would be good to have for applying tax llm, especially at NYU? I am concerned that not many employers will hire me to do any of their tax work right after JD, only having finished several tax courses in law school. What if I cannot find a position in tax law?
4) I'd like to know the career potentials and options as a tax lawyer (with LLM) at law firms and at corporations. Is switching between the two possible? What is the earning potential b/w the two and how are the working hours?
Thank you so much!</blockquote>
Posted Mar 02, 2008 16:36
ABA Survey says median in house for no experience is $70K... but if you stay on it goes up to median in house for The GC / CLO is high 200s to low 300s, but up to 700K for the largest corps (>$10B revenue.)
http://www.abajournal.com/weekly/top_in_house_lawyers_make_645k_survey_says
http://www.abajournal.com/weekly/top_in_house_lawyers_make_645k_survey_says
Posted Mar 03, 2008 17:03
Hi all,
I´ve been admitted to the International Tax Programs at UF and at Michigan. I have not decided yet where to go in autumn (in fact I am very irresolute,....)
What do you think about these programs? I´d be really grateful for any help.
Thx
I´ve been admitted to the International Tax Programs at UF and at Michigan. I have not decided yet where to go in autumn (in fact I am very irresolute,....)
What do you think about these programs? I´d be really grateful for any help.
Thx
Posted Apr 07, 2008 21:17
Law Specialty Rankings 2008: Tax Law
Ranked in 2008
1 New York University
New York, NY
2 University of Florida (Levin)
Gainesville, FL
3 Georgetown University
Washington, DC
4 Northwestern University
Chicago, IL
5 University of California--Los Angeles
Los Angeles, CA
6 Harvard University
Cambridge, MA
University of Miami
Coral Gables, FL
8 Boston University
Boston, MA
9 University of Virginia
Charlottesville, VA
10 University of Michigan--Ann Arbor
Ann Arbor, MI
University of Texas--Austin
Austin, TX
Yale University
New Haven, CT
Ranked in 2008
1 New York University
New York, NY
2 University of Florida (Levin)
Gainesville, FL
3 Georgetown University
Washington, DC
4 Northwestern University
Chicago, IL
5 University of California--Los Angeles
Los Angeles, CA
6 Harvard University
Cambridge, MA
University of Miami
Coral Gables, FL
8 Boston University
Boston, MA
9 University of Virginia
Charlottesville, VA
10 University of Michigan--Ann Arbor
Ann Arbor, MI
University of Texas--Austin
Austin, TX
Yale University
New Haven, CT
Posted Apr 12, 2008 11:07
Can someone help this Chartered Accountant (UK) who want to do Masters in Tax and come back to Europe/Asia and work for US employers or Work in USA. My background: I do not have a first degree, but I am a chartered accountant and a chartered tax advisor. I have 5+ years of tax experience. I presently work in house for a large pharmaceutical company. I have the following questions.
1. Is it possible to do an LLM in USA without a law degree but based on the chartered accountant qualification and tax experience?
2. If can only do a masters in taxation - where can I find ranking? Can someone guide me on which is the well known US MST program in Europe?
3. Any opinion about DU Graduate tax program?
Many thanks
UK CA
1. Is it possible to do an LLM in USA without a law degree but based on the chartered accountant qualification and tax experience?
2. If can only do a masters in taxation - where can I find ranking? Can someone guide me on which is the well known US MST program in Europe?
3. Any opinion about DU Graduate tax program?
Many thanks
UK CA
Posted May 06, 2008 02:19
I was wondering which will be the best LL.M.s for a latin lawyer who wants to live in Caliornia and -find a job there -after finishing the LL.M.???
My GPA is 3.5 and I need a partical scholarship or loan.. Any toguhts on the matter?
My GPA is 3.5 and I need a partical scholarship or loan.. Any toguhts on the matter?
Posted May 06, 2008 21:01
I was wondering which will be the best LL.M.s for a latin lawyer who wants to live in Caliornia and -find a job there -after finishing the LL.M.???
My GPA is 3.5 and I need a partical scholarship or loan.. Any toguhts on the matter?
Hello, sure you should try Berkley or UCLA, 3.5 gpa is not so strong for a top School but anyhow is all about your credentials 2 or 3 years of previous work after law school thats a fine school, good luck
My GPA is 3.5 and I need a partical scholarship or loan.. Any toguhts on the matter?</blockquote>
Hello, sure you should try Berkley or UCLA, 3.5 gpa is not so strong for a top School but anyhow is all about your credentials 2 or 3 years of previous work after law school thats a fine school, good luck
Posted May 06, 2008 21:03
I was wondering which will be the best LL.M.s for a latin lawyer who wants to live in Caliornia and -find a job there -after finishing the LL.M.???
My GPA is 3.5 and I need a partical scholarship or loan.. Any toguhts on the matter?
Sorry I forgot, I dont think that you will have a good shoot about scholarships...sorry, and you should prepare to sit for the CA bar (pretty hard) how about your TOEFL at least 105...ps me
My GPA is 3.5 and I need a partical scholarship or loan.. Any toguhts on the matter?</blockquote>
Sorry I forgot, I dont think that you will have a good shoot about scholarships...sorry, and you should prepare to sit for the CA bar (pretty hard) how about your TOEFL at least 105...ps me
Posted May 22, 2008 05:52
Rob or Ivan in particular - what are you guys doing/planning on doing with your LLM? And what were your credentials like getting into the NYU program?
I've got a master's degree, CPA, and JD from top 30 program with a bar admission 3 years ago, but I never practiced law. I'm working in tax compliance for a big 4 firm now, but I think I'd really like to get into a law firm doing a little more tax controversy work, or maybe a good job at the IRS. I feel like I've got a pretty good resume, but a bad 1L year when I was 19 years old really dragged down my law school GPA. Tried to make up for it with law journal and moot court, but I digress... Any advice on the career shift or admissions prospects at one of the top 3 LLMs?
Thanks for all the good info you guys have already posted here.
I've got a master's degree, CPA, and JD from top 30 program with a bar admission 3 years ago, but I never practiced law. I'm working in tax compliance for a big 4 firm now, but I think I'd really like to get into a law firm doing a little more tax controversy work, or maybe a good job at the IRS. I feel like I've got a pretty good resume, but a bad 1L year when I was 19 years old really dragged down my law school GPA. Tried to make up for it with law journal and moot court, but I digress... Any advice on the career shift or admissions prospects at one of the top 3 LLMs?
Thanks for all the good info you guys have already posted here.
Posted Sep 07, 2008 00:26
I practice probate law in a busy, small firm in Arizona. I am considering obtaining an LLM (with a focus in estate and gift tax). I cannot stop practicing. My options for LLM programs may be limited to the distance learning programs at Alabama and NYU. But there is a possibility that I could commute to USD, Loyola or Chapman. I'd appreciate any thoughts on these options.
Posted Sep 30, 2008 23:37
Hi there,
I'm a lawyer in Argentina, 25 years old with 4 years background in tax law, working for the biggest law firm here. I'm planning to apply for Tax on LLM in NYU, UF, GT, BU or UM. I think that I have chances of being accepted (I've graduated from my university among the top 5% -#154 out of 3,000), but I would like to receive some thoughts regarding:
(i) best law school that will assure more chances of getting a job offer in the USA after graduating -despite the fact of the current financial and recession situation-
(ii) more possibilities of getting scholarships.
Thanks a lot in advanced!
I'm a lawyer in Argentina, 25 years old with 4 years background in tax law, working for the biggest law firm here. I'm planning to apply for Tax on LLM in NYU, UF, GT, BU or UM. I think that I have chances of being accepted (I've graduated from my university among the top 5% -#154 out of 3,000), but I would like to receive some thoughts regarding:
(i) best law school that will assure more chances of getting a job offer in the USA after graduating -despite the fact of the current financial and recession situation-
(ii) more possibilities of getting scholarships.
Thanks a lot in advanced!
Posted Apr 17, 2010 23:20
US News Tax Law Rankings 2011
1 New York University
2 Georgetown University
3 University of Florida Levin
4 Northwestern University
5 University of Miami
6 Boston University
University of San Diego
8 Harvard University
9 Loyola Marymount University
10 University of Virginia
http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-law-schools/tax-law
1 New York University
2 Georgetown University
3 University of Florida Levin
4 Northwestern University
5 University of Miami
6 Boston University
University of San Diego
8 Harvard University
9 Loyola Marymount University
10 University of Virginia
http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/best-graduate-schools/top-law-schools/tax-law
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