LLM 2009/2010 - UCL


aab

So, I was accepted at KCL a while ago and accepted since I had to reply within a few weeks. I'm now very excited to have been accepted at UCL as of today, and must reply within 4 weeks. I'm going to study international human rights law, and I'm leaning towards UCL. Here's my question: I would like to also accept UCL, and decide after I visit both schools in early May. Does anyone see a problem with that? There's no deposit required, so I would think I could just withdraw my acceptance from one of the schools later. Thoughts?

So, I was accepted at KCL a while ago and accepted since I had to reply within a few weeks. I'm now very excited to have been accepted at UCL as of today, and must reply within 4 weeks. I'm going to study international human rights law, and I'm leaning towards UCL. Here's my question: I would like to also accept UCL, and decide after I visit both schools in early May. Does anyone see a problem with that? There's no deposit required, so I would think I could just withdraw my acceptance from one of the schools later. Thoughts?
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PUCCA

I actually dont think there will be a problem. However, you should call them and ask them!

I actually dont think there will be a problem. However, you should call them and ask them!
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Im a final yr Irish law student, hoping to specialise in criminology and criminal justice. Got the same conditional offer as yourself. Why are you moving from the lse to ucl? Is it just the old adage of doing one's masters in a different place to one'e undergraduate degree or is ucl better for what you are interested in? Any idea which college is better for criminal law? And finally what is the lse like overall? Sorry for all the questions!


Ireland! Oh silly me, I should have guessed from your name since I have an Irish lecturer by the name of Conor as well. Happy St. Paddy's Day by the way!

Oh the LSE is quite a good uni. Teaching wise you will be taught by the lecturers theselves at postgrad, unlike at undergraduate level where you get those crappy Graduate Teaching Assistants which can be quite annoying. All the Iecturers I had so far are very helpful and are all leading experts within their field. For criminal law I assume one of your modules will be Criminal Procedure and Evidence? If so, you're in luck. The teacher responsible for the course is very good, I had him for Evidence last year and he was amazing. Concepts were explained clearly and in a succint manner and the essays were all marked at a high standard with helpful comments. Facilities wise the library has an extensive collection of course material, and there are exclusive study space reserved for postgrads so all is well. The only downside of teaching at the LSE would probably be the lack of contact hours...most courses are being taught via 2-hour seminars and there are some complaints that they are not enough. I don't really think it's a big problem though since there are office hours available and one can always book an appointment with the lecturers and have a one-to-one discussion with them. Overall in terms of teaching, I'd say the LSE is one of the best institutions in the UK (probably the best in London!) for the study of law, speaking from personal experience. However onto your question, I'm not familiar with the reputation of criminal law for UCL so I can't really make a comparison, sorry!

Well to be honest, the LSE is probably better for my specialism actually, given the wide range of specific modules availablle and the LSE graduates have a reputation of being the most commercially awared in the employment market. To me, crossing over to UCL is more of a personal choice, in the sense that I kinda got bored of the LSE experience already! Teaching at LSE is top-notched, there's no doubt about that but I never really liked the campus...it's small and kinda dull for me, and I find the people here to be too commercially minded. Most events on campus are always about IBs, internships, financial talks etc. The social scene is just not pluralistic enough for me. I think going to UCL would be a good change of environment for me to mix around with people from other disciplines other than the social science people.

<blockquote>Im a final yr Irish law student, hoping to specialise in criminology and criminal justice. Got the same conditional offer as yourself. Why are you moving from the lse to ucl? Is it just the old adage of doing one's masters in a different place to one'e undergraduate degree or is ucl better for what you are interested in? Any idea which college is better for criminal law? And finally what is the lse like overall? Sorry for all the questions! </blockquote>

Ireland! Oh silly me, I should have guessed from your name since I have an Irish lecturer by the name of Conor as well. Happy St. Paddy's Day by the way!

Oh the LSE is quite a good uni. Teaching wise you will be taught by the lecturers theselves at postgrad, unlike at undergraduate level where you get those crappy Graduate Teaching Assistants which can be quite annoying. All the Iecturers I had so far are very helpful and are all leading experts within their field. For criminal law I assume one of your modules will be Criminal Procedure and Evidence? If so, you're in luck. The teacher responsible for the course is very good, I had him for Evidence last year and he was amazing. Concepts were explained clearly and in a succint manner and the essays were all marked at a high standard with helpful comments. Facilities wise the library has an extensive collection of course material, and there are exclusive study space reserved for postgrads so all is well. The only downside of teaching at the LSE would probably be the lack of contact hours...most courses are being taught via 2-hour seminars and there are some complaints that they are not enough. I don't really think it's a big problem though since there are office hours available and one can always book an appointment with the lecturers and have a one-to-one discussion with them. Overall in terms of teaching, I'd say the LSE is one of the best institutions in the UK (probably the best in London!) for the study of law, speaking from personal experience. However onto your question, I'm not familiar with the reputation of criminal law for UCL so I can't really make a comparison, sorry!

Well to be honest, the LSE is probably better for my specialism actually, given the wide range of specific modules availablle and the LSE graduates have a reputation of being the most commercially awared in the employment market. To me, crossing over to UCL is more of a personal choice, in the sense that I kinda got bored of the LSE experience already! Teaching at LSE is top-notched, there's no doubt about that but I never really liked the campus...it's small and kinda dull for me, and I find the people here to be too commercially minded. Most events on campus are always about IBs, internships, financial talks etc. The social scene is just not pluralistic enough for me. I think going to UCL would be a good change of environment for me to mix around with people from other disciplines other than the social science people.
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PUCCA

Dear future UCL LLM classmates, please check the topic I posted about the new requirements to obtain an adult student visa! I already informed UCL about these changes(they didnt know) because they have to write the visa letter (unconditional offer) according to the instructions stated in the UK Border Agency Website. There are other very very important requirements we have to follow so please take your time to read it.
Have a nice day :o)

Dear future UCL LLM classmates, please check the topic I posted about the new requirements to obtain an adult student visa! I already informed UCL about these changes(they didn’t know) because they have to write the visa letter (unconditional offer) according to the instructions stated in the UK Border Agency Website. There are other very very important requirements we have to follow so please take your time to read it.
Have a nice day :o)
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reland! Oh silly me, I should have guessed from your name since I have an Irish lecturer by the name of Conor as well. Happy St. Paddy's Day by the way!

Oh the LSE is quite a good uni. Teaching wise you will be taught by the lecturers theselves at postgrad, unlike at undergraduate level where you get those crappy Graduate Teaching Assistants which can be quite annoying. All the Iecturers I had so far are very helpful and are all leading experts within their field. For criminal law I assume one of your modules will be Criminal Procedure and Evidence? If so, you're in luck. The teacher responsible for the course is very good, I had him for Evidence last year and he was amazing. Concepts were explained clearly and in a succint manner and the essays were all marked at a high standard with helpful comments. Facilities wise the library has an extensive collection of course material, and there are exclusive study space reserved for postgrads so all is well. The only downside of teaching at the LSE would probably be the lack of contact hours...most courses are being taught via 2-hour seminars and there are some complaints that they are not enough. I don't really think it's a big problem though since there are office hours available and one can always book an appointment with the lecturers and have a one-to-one discussion with them. Overall in terms of teaching, I'd say the LSE is one of the best institutions in the UK (probably the best in London!) for the study of law, speaking from personal experience. However onto your question, I'm not familiar with the reputation of criminal law for UCL so I can't really make a comparison, sorry!

Well to be honest, the LSE is probably better for my specialism actually, given the wide range of specific modules availablle and the LSE graduates have a reputation of being the most commercially awared in the employment market. To me, crossing over to UCL is more of a personal choice, in the sense that I kinda got bored of the LSE experience already! Teaching at LSE is top-notched, there's no doubt about that but I never really liked the campus...it's small and kinda dull for me, and I find the people here to be too commercially minded. Most events on campus are always about IBs, internships, financial talks etc. The social scene is just not pluralistic enough for me. I think going to UCL would be a good change of environment for me to mix around with people from other disciplines other than the social science people.

Thanks! Only recovering from the traditional St. Patricks day celebration of drinking a lot of beer now:) Cheers for all the info, the LSE sounds like it lives up to its lofty reputation. I have to say that UCL does seem to have a very cool campus though, right in the middle of a very nice part of London. Im very much looking forward to living there. Best of luck with your studies!


reland! Oh silly me, I should have guessed from your name since I have an Irish lecturer by the name of Conor as well. Happy St. Paddy's Day by the way!

Oh the LSE is quite a good uni. Teaching wise you will be taught by the lecturers theselves at postgrad, unlike at undergraduate level where you get those crappy Graduate Teaching Assistants which can be quite annoying. All the Iecturers I had so far are very helpful and are all leading experts within their field. For criminal law I assume one of your modules will be Criminal Procedure and Evidence? If so, you're in luck. The teacher responsible for the course is very good, I had him for Evidence last year and he was amazing. Concepts were explained clearly and in a succint manner and the essays were all marked at a high standard with helpful comments. Facilities wise the library has an extensive collection of course material, and there are exclusive study space reserved for postgrads so all is well. The only downside of teaching at the LSE would probably be the lack of contact hours...most courses are being taught via 2-hour seminars and there are some complaints that they are not enough. I don't really think it's a big problem though since there are office hours available and one can always book an appointment with the lecturers and have a one-to-one discussion with them. Overall in terms of teaching, I'd say the LSE is one of the best institutions in the UK (probably the best in London!) for the study of law, speaking from personal experience. However onto your question, I'm not familiar with the reputation of criminal law for UCL so I can't really make a comparison, sorry!

Well to be honest, the LSE is probably better for my specialism actually, given the wide range of specific modules availablle and the LSE graduates have a reputation of being the most commercially awared in the employment market. To me, crossing over to UCL is more of a personal choice, in the sense that I kinda got bored of the LSE experience already! Teaching at LSE is top-notched, there's no doubt about that but I never really liked the campus...it's small and kinda dull for me, and I find the people here to be too commercially minded. Most events on campus are always about IBs, internships, financial talks etc. The social scene is just not pluralistic enough for me. I think going to UCL would be a good change of environment for me to mix around with people from other disciplines other than the social science people. </blockquote>

Thanks! Only recovering from the traditional St. Patricks day celebration of drinking a lot of beer now:) Cheers for all the info, the LSE sounds like it lives up to its lofty reputation. I have to say that UCL does seem to have a very cool campus though, right in the middle of a very nice part of London. Im very much looking forward to living there. Best of luck with your studies!
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sreenath

Hi!
does anyone know what is the minimum percentage of marks one should have in LLB(india) to procure an admission for LLM in UK say LSE kings queens etc?

<blockquote>Hi!
does anyone know what is the minimum percentage of marks one should have in LLB(india) to procure an admission for LLM in UK say LSE kings queens etc? </blockquote>
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PUCCA

These universities will normally require a first class honours or a good upper second-class honours qualifying law degree from a UK university or an overseas qualification of an equivalent standard.

This is the scale they use:
First-Class Honours (First or 1st)
Upper Second-Class Honours (2:1 or 2i)
Lower Second-Class Honours (2:2 or 2ii)
Third-Class Honours (Third or 3rd)
Ordinary degree (Pass)
Fail (no degree is awarded)

Per example here are a few examples on how this scores thanslates into your LLB from India.

According to King's College a student from India needs:

Qualifications Required Minimum Grade Required
LLB 60% First Class Degree
Website where you can find this information: http://www.kcl.ac.uk/schools/law/gradstudy/llm/apply/entry/asia/india.html

Here its what UCL says about LLB graduates from India:

http://www.ucl.ac.uk/prospective-students/international-students/country-information/south-asia/india/entry_requirements

Here is what LSE says about LBB graduates from India:

To be considered for admission to the Graduate School we require a bachelors degree with 70% for students attending the top ranked institutions. .Where a GPA system is used we require 5.5/7, 6.5/7 or 7.5/9. Applicants should have completed a minimum of three years of study.
Website:
http://www.lse.ac.uk/collections/studentRecruitment/country/india.htm#generated-subheading2


HOPE THIS HELPS :o)

These universities will normally require a first class honours or a good upper second-class honours qualifying law degree from a UK university or an overseas qualification of an equivalent standard.

This is the scale they use:
First-Class Honours (First or 1st)
Upper Second-Class Honours (2:1 or 2i)
Lower Second-Class Honours (2:2 or 2ii)
Third-Class Honours (Third or 3rd)
Ordinary degree (Pass)
Fail (no degree is awarded)

Per example here are a few examples on how this scores thanslates into your LLB from India.

According to King's College a student from India needs:

Qualifications Required Minimum Grade Required
LLB 60% First Class Degree
Website where you can find this information: http://www.kcl.ac.uk/schools/law/gradstudy/llm/apply/entry/asia/india.html

Here its what UCL says about LLB graduates from India:

http://www.ucl.ac.uk/prospective-students/international-students/country-information/south-asia/india/entry_requirements

Here is what LSE says about LBB graduates from India:

To be considered for admission to the Graduate School we require a bachelor’s degree with 70% for students attending the top ranked institutions. .Where a GPA system is used we require 5.5/7, 6.5/7 or 7.5/9. Applicants should have completed a minimum of three years of study.
Website:
http://www.lse.ac.uk/collections/studentRecruitment/country/india.htm#generated-subheading2


HOPE THIS HELPS :o)
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Jonas

There's a group for incoming UCL students at http://www.lawyrs.net/groups/134/ucl-llm-09-10

There's a group for incoming UCL students at http://www.lawyrs.net/groups/134/ucl-llm-09-10
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