Does anybody has data about the placement ratio of LLM students in the US? I believe that NYU and Columbia have the best ratio but I am not sure about it.
LLM placement in the US
Posted Apr 06, 2006 04:04
Posted Apr 06, 2006 04:22
Columbia and NYU have about 38 - 35%, Harvard 30% and Yale 25%.
Posted Apr 06, 2006 04:50
Thanks!! Do you have any info about Chicago?
Where did you obtain this info?
Where did you obtain this info?
Posted Apr 06, 2006 16:30
Hi Morpheus,
Do you know any info regarding the placement rate of LLMs from Georgetown in private practice?
Do you know any info regarding the placement rate of LLMs from Georgetown in private practice?
Posted Apr 07, 2006 00:55
How about from Stanford?? Where did you get the info form? Thanks!
Posted Apr 07, 2006 11:22
As a matter of policy, my firm does not hire a non JD. The same is also true for a dozen or so law firms I am associated with in various capacities.
So if US job is what you are seeking, LLM is the wrong train. Catch a train going to the JDland.
So if US job is what you are seeking, LLM is the wrong train. Catch a train going to the JDland.
Posted Apr 07, 2006 13:13
As a matter of policy, my firm does not hire a non JD. The same is also true for a dozen or so law firms I am associated with in various capacities.
So if US job is what you are seeking, LLM is the wrong train. Catch a train going to the JDland.
lol, wonder what an alleged law firm "Partner" is doing whiling away his time on a student LLM Board. maybe "his" firm has alot of free time?:)
most prospective llm's are aware of the reduced employment oppurtunities. i guess its a game of playing the odds. a job with a us law firm is well and good....failing which is plan B....leveraging their llm in their home country.
So if US job is what you are seeking, LLM is the wrong train. Catch a train going to the JDland.
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lol, wonder what an alleged law firm "Partner" is doing whiling away his time on a student LLM Board. maybe "his" firm has alot of free time?:)
most prospective llm's are aware of the reduced employment oppurtunities. i guess its a game of playing the odds. a job with a us law firm is well and good....failing which is plan B....leveraging their llm in their home country.
Posted Apr 07, 2006 14:38
Hehe, well anyways. I will attend the LLM program for a good experience and to be able to learn more about my field of interest (international contract law). Since I got a scholarship and tuition remission I won't have much to lose. Getting a paid internship or job afterwards would just be a bonus. Passing the bar exam in NYC will save me money because I will then get my license at home too, which is another bonus. So one can hope to be lucky, but it won't be too bad to go home and get a job there either.
So no worries - be happy and do the LLM DANCE!
So no worries - be happy and do the LLM DANCE!
Posted Apr 07, 2006 14:40
I guess my post was a little bit off topic compared to the topic of the original post. I am sorry. I am just excited these days :D
Posted Apr 07, 2006 19:31
Guys,
Sorry I got some folks all worked up!! Though I must admit some of your posts were quite humurous..lol
The post was about LLM placements in USA and just wanted to give a perspective from the other side of the fence before you are down US$ 50-80k and one year later find out the truth....
If the post is about alternate plans, by all means go for it. Do an LLM just bcos u want to do it. You only live once so live it your way. Why not. I wish you the very best.
I like Hannenyh's attitude - do the LLM dance if that is what you want to do and enjoy it while it lasts.
Sorry I got some folks all worked up!! Though I must admit some of your posts were quite humurous..lol
The post was about LLM placements in USA and just wanted to give a perspective from the other side of the fence before you are down US$ 50-80k and one year later find out the truth....
If the post is about alternate plans, by all means go for it. Do an LLM just bcos u want to do it. You only live once so live it your way. Why not. I wish you the very best.
I like Hannenyh's attitude - do the LLM dance if that is what you want to do and enjoy it while it lasts.
Posted Apr 07, 2006 19:38
Hmmmmmm....with all due respect what kind of partner are you dude? You say "a LLM", not "an LLM"..........lol
Posted Apr 07, 2006 19:40
LOL, I bet his just a rejected LLM applicant...
Posted Apr 07, 2006 20:05
May be my reply was not intended for smart and intelligent folks like Shapiro and Darin...
But if my post can prevent just one applicant trying to do an LLM without any alternate plans other than getting a job and relying on that job to repay the debt he/she would be piling upI would consider it worth the effort.
(Is the post grammatically correct, Shapiro? Lol. And FYI - Partners dont always have to get the grammar right, they have trained secretaries to take dictations)
But if my post can prevent just one applicant trying to do an LLM without any alternate plans other than getting a job and relying on that job to repay the debt he/she would be piling up I would consider it worth the effort.
(Is the post grammatically correct, Shapiro? Lol. And FYI - Partners dont always have to get the grammar right, they have trained secretaries to take dictations )
Posted Apr 07, 2006 22:22
Seriously guys, give him a break, he is just trying to be helpful and everything he has said is absolutely true. There is no point in being snide when someone is trying to give you useful information.
Posted Apr 07, 2006 22:22
LOL, Dude you are hillarious. Its "maybe" not "may be".
Speek in englich Mr "partner"?
Speek in englich Mr "partner"?
Posted Apr 07, 2006 22:24
Irishguy I agree. Anyone can have its own point of view, what is wrong is to allege that you are some "firm partner" to sustain your ideas.....
Posted Apr 08, 2006 13:03
Shapiro,
Hmmmmmm....with all due respect what kind of partner are you dude? You say "a LLM", not "an LLM"..........lol
Don't make fun of something which is right. That is just stupid. The correct term is "an LLM", and from what I see in lawpartner's post that is what he wrote.
Don't make fun of something which is right. That is just stupid. The correct term is "an LLM", and from what I see in lawpartner's post that is what he wrote.
Posted Apr 08, 2006 13:05
LOL, Dude you are hillarious. Its "maybe" not "may be".
Speek in englich Mr "partner"?
Dude, it's hilarious, not hillarious. You should really stop being such an ass.
Speek in englich Mr "partner"?</blockquote>
Dude, it's hilarious, not hillarious. You should really stop being such an ass.
Posted Apr 08, 2006 14:11
lol, wow.........the first flame war on llmguide.com?? peace 2 all:)
llm partner: ur abs right............! just stop faking the "partner" bit.
lol and shaipiro...........go easy man! its just exchange of info....
llm partner: ur abs right............! just stop faking the "partner" bit.
lol and shaipiro...........go easy man! its just exchange of info....
Posted Apr 08, 2006 18:32
I did not mean to start any war My outburst was against two things..
1) Against statements like work experience is something that you need to justify..We are talking about that work which might be someones blood, sweat, tears and toil that work is something that one needs to hide?????????????????????????????????????
2) Against unabashed, second rate, indirect self promotionI am sure there are people reading this, if they decide to list their achievements, even a little bit, it will humble the rest of us. But those people would not do it because they realize what is meant by the humble shall be exalted and the exalted shall be humble
I have learnt this in my career If one practices the three Hs i.e. Humility, Honesty and Hard work, the long term rewards, both the tangible and the intangible, would be far greater than our limited short term intelligence can ever perceive
1) Against statements like work experience is something that you need to justify ..We are talking about that work which might be someones blood, sweat, tears and toil that work is something that one needs to hide?????????????????????????????????????
2) Against unabashed, second rate, indirect self promotion I am sure there are people reading this, if they decide to list their achievements, even a little bit, it will humble the rest of us. But those people would not do it because they realize what is meant by the humble shall be exalted and the exalted shall be humble
I have learnt this in my career If one practices the three Hs i.e. Humility, Honesty and Hard work, the long term rewards, both the tangible and the intangible, would be far greater than our limited short term intelligence can ever perceive
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