Harvard LLM 2013-2014


lohengrin
I guess everything is possible, but if you cut the whole "each school has its own standards" usual bla bla, I guess it remains, unfortunately, unlikely.

Columbia, Stanford (because of their work experience requirements) and of course Yale (because of the program's emphasis on research and teaching) are another story though.
I guess everything is possible, but if you cut the whole "each school has its own standards" usual bla bla, I guess it remains, unfortunately, unlikely.

Columbia, Stanford (because of their work experience requirements) and of course Yale (because of the program's emphasis on research and teaching) are another story though.
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MJ1989
I guess everything is possible, but if you cut the whole "each school has its own standards" usual bla bla, I guess it remains, unfortunately, unlikely.

Columbia, Stanford (because of their work experience requirements) and of course Yale (because of the program's emphasis on research and teaching) are another story though.


Is work experience more important to get into Columbia than to get into Harvard?
<blockquote>I guess everything is possible, but if you cut the whole "each school has its own standards" usual bla bla, I guess it remains, unfortunately, unlikely.

Columbia, Stanford (because of their work experience requirements) and of course Yale (because of the program's emphasis on research and teaching) are another story though. </blockquote>

Is work experience more important to get into Columbia than to get into Harvard?
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should i tell harvard i got into other schools?
should i tell harvard i got into other schools?
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lohengrin
I guess everything is possible, but if you cut the whole "each school has its own standards" usual bla bla, I guess it remains, unfortunately, unlikely.

Columbia, Stanford (because of their work experience requirements) and of course Yale (because of the program's emphasis on research and teaching) are another story though.


Is work experience more important to get into Columbia than to get into Harvard?


I think definitely. Columbia explicitly states that admissions without at least a year of work experience AFTER graduation from law school is rare (although it is not exceptional: I know several people who applied while in their last year and got through on the other hand I guess Stanford makes no exception re. that matter). Regarding Harvard, from what I know from previous graduates, while work experience is always helpful, they do not request it, and I've been told several times that grades are what matters most with Harvard (i.e.: they generally have to be extremely high).

There's an increasing number of smart students from my country who got accepted to HLS while in last year (so without any real prior experience, bar some summer internships) and got refused to CLS. I guess the two schools really have different criteria... However, I believe that ceteris paribus, with a year or two of work experience, it is more difficult to get into HLS than into CLS. From what I've seen, there's only a true difference for applicants who haven't completed their law degree...
<blockquote><blockquote>I guess everything is possible, but if you cut the whole "each school has its own standards" usual bla bla, I guess it remains, unfortunately, unlikely.

Columbia, Stanford (because of their work experience requirements) and of course Yale (because of the program's emphasis on research and teaching) are another story though. </blockquote>

Is work experience more important to get into Columbia than to get into Harvard? </blockquote>

I think definitely. Columbia explicitly states that admissions without at least a year of work experience AFTER graduation from law school is rare (although it is not exceptional: I know several people who applied while in their last year and got through — on the other hand I guess Stanford makes no exception re. that matter). Regarding Harvard, from what I know from previous graduates, while work experience is always helpful, they do not request it, and I've been told several times that grades are what matters most with Harvard (i.e.: they generally have to be extremely high).

There's an increasing number of smart students from my country who got accepted to HLS while in last year (so without any real prior experience, bar some summer internships) and got refused to CLS. I guess the two schools really have different criteria... However, I believe that ceteris paribus, with a year or two of work experience, it is more difficult to get into HLS than into CLS. From what I've seen, there's only a true difference for applicants who haven't completed their law degree...
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MJ1989
I guess everything is possible, but if you cut the whole "each school has its own standards" usual bla bla, I guess it remains, unfortunately, unlikely.

Columbia, Stanford (because of their work experience requirements) and of course Yale (because of the program's emphasis on research and teaching) are another story though.


Is work experience more important to get into Columbia than to get into Harvard?


I think definitely. Columbia explicitly states that admissions without at least a year or work experience AFTER graduation from law school is rare (although it is not exceptional, I know several people who applied while in last year and got though. on the other hand I guess Stanford makes no exception regarding that matter). Regarding Harvard, from what I know from previous graduates, while work experience is always helpful, they do not request it, and I've been told several times that grades are what matters most with Harvard (i.e.: they generally have to be extremely high).

There's an increasing number of smart students from my country who got accepted to HLS while in last year (so without any real prior experience, bar some summer internships) and got refused to CLS. I guess the two schools really have different criteria...


Thanks a lot! Your words have given me back some hope after being rejected from Columbia.. Don't have a lot of work experience but I do have extremely high grades. So.. I hope what you say is true!
<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>I guess everything is possible, but if you cut the whole "each school has its own standards" usual bla bla, I guess it remains, unfortunately, unlikely.

Columbia, Stanford (because of their work experience requirements) and of course Yale (because of the program's emphasis on research and teaching) are another story though. </blockquote>

Is work experience more important to get into Columbia than to get into Harvard? </blockquote>

I think definitely. Columbia explicitly states that admissions without at least a year or work experience AFTER graduation from law school is rare (although it is not exceptional, I know several people who applied while in last year and got though. on the other hand I guess Stanford makes no exception regarding that matter). Regarding Harvard, from what I know from previous graduates, while work experience is always helpful, they do not request it, and I've been told several times that grades are what matters most with Harvard (i.e.: they generally have to be extremely high).

There's an increasing number of smart students from my country who got accepted to HLS while in last year (so without any real prior experience, bar some summer internships) and got refused to CLS. I guess the two schools really have different criteria...</blockquote>

Thanks a lot! Your words have given me back some hope after being rejected from Columbia.. Don't have a lot of work experience but I do have extremely high grades. So.. I hope what you say is true!
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lohengrin


Thanks a lot! Your words have given me back some hope after being rejected from Columbia.. Don't have a lot of work experience but I do have extremely high grades. So.. I hope what you say is true!


I'm glad :) ! I understand you got rejected from CLS: did you apply in the regular cycle? Would you mind sharing a bit your credentials?

Anyway, applicants refused by CLS and accepted to HLS are not rare, especially if they have little or no work experience, so if your grades are high keep faith!
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Thanks a lot! Your words have given me back some hope after being rejected from Columbia.. Don't have a lot of work experience but I do have extremely high grades. So.. I hope what you say is true! </blockquote>

I'm glad :) ! I understand you got rejected from CLS: did you apply in the regular cycle? Would you mind sharing a bit your credentials?

Anyway, applicants refused by CLS and accepted to HLS are not rare, especially if they have little or no work experience, so if your grades are high keep faith!
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scriptina
How important are the recommendation letters in all this? Will submitting more than two help? Will having HLS alumni as recommenders help?
How important are the recommendation letters in all this? Will submitting more than two help? Will having HLS alumni as recommenders help?
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mk123
I guess everything is possible, but if you cut the whole "each school has its own standards" usual bla bla, I guess it remains, unfortunately, unlikely.

Columbia, Stanford (because of their work experience requirements) and of course Yale (because of the program's emphasis on research and teaching) are another story though.


Is work experience more important to get into Columbia than to get into Harvard?


I think definitely. Columbia explicitly states that admissions without at least a year of work experience AFTER graduation from law school is rare (although it is not exceptional: I know several people who applied while in their last year and got through on the other hand I guess Stanford makes no exception re. that matter). Regarding Harvard, from what I know from previous graduates, while work experience is always helpful, they do not request it, and I've been told several times that grades are what matters most with Harvard (i.e.: they generally have to be extremely high).

There's an increasing number of smart students from my country who got accepted to HLS while in last year (so without any real prior experience, bar some summer internships) and got refused to CLS. I guess the two schools really have different criteria... However, I believe that ceteris paribus, with a year or two of work experience, it is more difficult to get into HLS than into CLS. From what I've seen, there's only a true difference for applicants who haven't completed their law degree...


Are you sure its just high grades? I know someone went last year and she said yu have to be an 'interesting person'. I also hope they give weight to recommendations from harvars alumni because I got one..
<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>I guess everything is possible, but if you cut the whole "each school has its own standards" usual bla bla, I guess it remains, unfortunately, unlikely.

Columbia, Stanford (because of their work experience requirements) and of course Yale (because of the program's emphasis on research and teaching) are another story though. </blockquote>

Is work experience more important to get into Columbia than to get into Harvard? </blockquote>

I think definitely. Columbia explicitly states that admissions without at least a year of work experience AFTER graduation from law school is rare (although it is not exceptional: I know several people who applied while in their last year and got through — on the other hand I guess Stanford makes no exception re. that matter). Regarding Harvard, from what I know from previous graduates, while work experience is always helpful, they do not request it, and I've been told several times that grades are what matters most with Harvard (i.e.: they generally have to be extremely high).

There's an increasing number of smart students from my country who got accepted to HLS while in last year (so without any real prior experience, bar some summer internships) and got refused to CLS. I guess the two schools really have different criteria... However, I believe that ceteris paribus, with a year or two of work experience, it is more difficult to get into HLS than into CLS. From what I've seen, there's only a true difference for applicants who haven't completed their law degree... </blockquote>

Are you sure its just high grades? I know someone went last year and she said yu have to be an 'interesting person'. I also hope they give weight to recommendations from harvars alumni because I got one..
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lohengrin


Are you sure its just high grades? I know someone went last year and she said yu have to be an 'interesting person'. I also hope they give weight to recommendations from harvars alumni because I got one..


Certainly not "just" high grades :), but I've been told that at HLS high grades are some kind of pre-requisite and are more important than at other similar schools. As to being an "interesting person", that's very subjective, but that's what they like to tell I guess. They certainly look for well-rounded individuals!

A recommandation from an alumni certainly helps! Would you mind sharing your credentials a bit? Did you apply to other schools and have offers yet? :)
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Are you sure its just high grades? I know someone went last year and she said yu have to be an 'interesting person'. I also hope they give weight to recommendations from harvars alumni because I got one..</blockquote>

Certainly not "just" high grades :), but I've been told that at HLS high grades are some kind of pre-requisite and are more important than at other similar schools. As to being an "interesting person", that's very subjective, but that's what they like to tell I guess. They certainly look for well-rounded individuals!

A recommandation from an alumni certainly helps! Would you mind sharing your credentials a bit? Did you apply to other schools and have offers yet? :)
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Dalis
I guess we are all going to find out soon are we what they are looking for. But this is their official position : http://harvardmagazine.com/2012/08/harvard-files-amicus-brief
I guess we are all going to find out soon are we what they are looking for. But this is their official position : http://harvardmagazine.com/2012/08/harvard-files-amicus-brief

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Sim_Tron
Bloomberg report notes that undergraduate offers go out on 28 March.

Source: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-02-22/harvard-freshman-applications-climb-2-1-to-record-35-022.html
Bloomberg report notes that undergraduate offers go out on 28 March.

Source: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-02-22/harvard-freshman-applications-climb-2-1-to-record-35-022.html
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IRILAW
Bloomberg report notes that undergraduate offers go out on 28 March.

Source: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-02-22/harvard-freshman-applications-climb-2-1-to-record-35-022.html


Isn't this for undergraduate applications ???
<blockquote>Bloomberg report notes that undergraduate offers go out on 28 March.

Source: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-02-22/harvard-freshman-applications-climb-2-1-to-record-35-022.html</blockquote>

Isn't this for undergraduate applications ???
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Sim_Tron
Bloomberg report notes that undergraduate offers go out on 28 March.

Source: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-02-22/harvard-freshman-applications-climb-2-1-to-record-35-022.html


Isn't this for undergraduate applications ???


Sigh - yes. Had you read what I wrote, you would have noticed that I already said that.

Thought it might be useful info...
<blockquote><blockquote>Bloomberg report notes that undergraduate offers go out on 28 March.

Source: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-02-22/harvard-freshman-applications-climb-2-1-to-record-35-022.html</blockquote>

Isn't this for undergraduate applications ???</blockquote>

Sigh - yes. Had you read what I wrote, you would have noticed that I already said that.

Thought it might be useful info...

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IRILAW
Bloomberg report notes that undergraduate offers go out on 28 March.

Source: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-02-22/harvard-freshman-applications-climb-2-1-to-record-35-022.html


Isn't this for undergraduate applications ???


Sigh - yes. Had you read what I wrote, you would have noticed that I already said that.

Thought it might be useful info...



I did read , I just don't get what this has to do with LLM...
<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>Bloomberg report notes that undergraduate offers go out on 28 March.

Source: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-02-22/harvard-freshman-applications-climb-2-1-to-record-35-022.html</blockquote>

Isn't this for undergraduate applications ???</blockquote>

Sigh - yes. Had you read what I wrote, you would have noticed that I already said that.

Thought it might be useful info...

</blockquote>

I did read , I just don't get what this has to do with LLM...
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Sim_Tron
Bloomberg report notes that undergraduate offers go out on 28 March.

Source: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-02-22/harvard-freshman-applications-climb-2-1-to-record-35-022.html


Isn't this for undergraduate applications ???


Sigh - yes. Had you read what I wrote, you would have noticed that I already said that.

Thought it might be useful info...



I did read , I just don't get what this have to do with LLM...


Ppl on here have been trying to confirm whether offers will be sent in mid or late-March. This might indicate that offers will go out towards the end of the month...who knows right?
<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>Bloomberg report notes that undergraduate offers go out on 28 March.

Source: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-02-22/harvard-freshman-applications-climb-2-1-to-record-35-022.html</blockquote>

Isn't this for undergraduate applications ???</blockquote>

Sigh - yes. Had you read what I wrote, you would have noticed that I already said that.

Thought it might be useful info...

</blockquote>

I did read , I just don't get what this have to do with LLM... </blockquote>

Ppl on here have been trying to confirm whether offers will be sent in mid or late-March. This might indicate that offers will go out towards the end of the month...who knows right?
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Ali22
Hopefully they decide to get the LLM responses out of the way first! I'm going to have to ask Columbia for an extension if Harvard doesn't get back soon... :(
Hopefully they decide to get the LLM responses out of the way first! I'm going to have to ask Columbia for an extension if Harvard doesn't get back soon... :(
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c.urresti1
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Mac23
Bloomberg report notes that undergraduate offers go out on 28 March.

Source: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-02-22/harvard-freshman-applications-climb-2-1-to-record-35-022.html


The article refers to Harvard as the whole university, not just the law school. Then I think that we cannot infer from this that LLM applicants will be notified on the same day. On the contrary, I think that we can exclude we'll receive communications on those days, considering the incredible amount of applications received by Harvard in all its departments (law, economics, medicine etc. etc. etc.). If it won't be on the 18th it will be on the 25th, but I am still confident that we'll hear back in two days...fingers crossed and good luck to all :)!
<blockquote>Bloomberg report notes that undergraduate offers go out on 28 March.

Source: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-02-22/harvard-freshman-applications-climb-2-1-to-record-35-022.html</blockquote>

The article refers to Harvard as the whole university, not just the law school. Then I think that we cannot infer from this that LLM applicants will be notified on the same day. On the contrary, I think that we can exclude we'll receive communications on those days, considering the incredible amount of applications received by Harvard in all its departments (law, economics, medicine etc. etc. etc.). If it won't be on the 18th it will be on the 25th, but I am still confident that we'll hear back in two days...fingers crossed and good luck to all :)!
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c.urresti1
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Mac23
Bloomberg report notes that undergraduate offers go out on 28 March.

Source: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-02-22/harvard-freshman-applications-climb-2-1-to-record-35-022.html


The article refers to Harvard as the whole university, not just the law school. Then I think that we cannot infer from this that LLM applicants will be notified on the same day. On the contrary, I think that we can exclude we'll receive communications on those days, considering the incredible amount of applications received by Harvard in all its departments (law, economics, medicine etc. etc. etc.). If it won't be on the 18th it will be on the 25th, but I am still confident that we'll hear back in two days...fingers crossed and good luck to all :)!


Shouldn't this be self-explanatory?

"Greetings from the Harvard Law School Graduate Program We hope this message finds you well. We are now a little more than halfway through processing and review of LL.M. applications for 2013-14 and wanted to give you an update as to our progress. First, our admissions decisions are on schedule to be released by the end of March. We will make every effort to release decisions earlier, but due to the increase in application volume this year, it may not be possible to complete our process more quickly." (Received on February 5, 2013)

Okay, so here it goes....
"Our admissions decisions are on schedule to be released by the end of March". PERIOD. All applicants speculating that HLS will be releasing decisions earlier this year (mid-March), please specify your source(s). If your answer is based on previous posts and patterns - sorry, but this is not a reliable answer - mere speculation (don't drive yourselves crazzies). In other words, how can you possibly know that the Admissions Committee completed their process more quickly this year? Now, let's go back: ". . . but due to the increase in application volume this year, it MAY not be possible to complete our process more quickly" - Notice the word "MAY"? You'll be seeing it a LOT in law school...

In sum, my best guess (just like Sim_Trom implies) would be towards the end of the month (March 25 or March 28). Now, if you are looking for a legal definition of "end of the month" - best of luck! Maybe it's March 18th? Who knows... Please keep us posted...


Well thanks for the quotation. It is absolutely clear and, of course, self-explanatory. If I have had it available I would not have made the comment I did above. Then I guess 25th of March MAY be possible, even probable. Of course, if they manage to release decisions next Monday, I guess we'll be much happier :)! In any event there is no much time to wait.
<blockquote><blockquote><blockquote>Bloomberg report notes that undergraduate offers go out on 28 March.

Source: http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2013-02-22/harvard-freshman-applications-climb-2-1-to-record-35-022.html</blockquote>

The article refers to Harvard as the whole university, not just the law school. Then I think that we cannot infer from this that LLM applicants will be notified on the same day. On the contrary, I think that we can exclude we'll receive communications on those days, considering the incredible amount of applications received by Harvard in all its departments (law, economics, medicine etc. etc. etc.). If it won't be on the 18th it will be on the 25th, but I am still confident that we'll hear back in two days...fingers crossed and good luck to all :)!</blockquote>

Shouldn't this be self-explanatory?

"Greetings from the Harvard Law School Graduate Program – We hope this message finds you well. We are now a little more than halfway through processing and review of LL.M. applications for 2013-14 and wanted to give you an update as to our progress. First, our admissions decisions are on schedule to be released by the end of March. We will make every effort to release decisions earlier, but due to the increase in application volume this year, it may not be possible to complete our process more quickly." (Received on February 5, 2013)

Okay, so here it goes....
"Our admissions decisions are on schedule to be released by the end of March". PERIOD. All applicants speculating that HLS will be releasing decisions earlier this year (mid-March), please specify your source(s). If your answer is based on previous posts and patterns - sorry, but this is not a reliable answer - mere speculation (don't drive yourselves crazzies). In other words, how can you possibly know that the Admissions Committee completed their process more quickly this year? Now, let's go back: ". . . but due to the increase in application volume this year, it MAY not be possible to complete our process more quickly" - Notice the word "MAY"? You'll be seeing it a LOT in law school...

In sum, my best guess (just like Sim_Trom implies) would be towards the end of the month (March 25 or March 28). Now, if you are looking for a legal definition of "end of the month" - best of luck! Maybe it's March 18th? Who knows... Please keep us posted...</blockquote>

Well thanks for the quotation. It is absolutely clear and, of course, self-explanatory. If I have had it available I would not have made the comment I did above. Then I guess 25th of March MAY be possible, even probable. Of course, if they manage to release decisions next Monday, I guess we'll be much happier :)! In any event there is no much time to wait.
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