2009 Law School Ranking


Sloan
Even though the official release date of the 2009 law school rankings is due on Friday March 28th 2008, the new rankings are already published on the internet (in particular on amlaw and theshark).

According to such websites (where you can find a pdf version which lists all top 100) the purported new top 10 is as follows:
1/ Yale University
2/ Harvard University, Stanford University
4/ Columbia University
5/ New York University
6/ University of California Berkeley
7/ University of Chicago, University of Pennsylvania
9/ Northwestern University, University of Michigan Ann Arbor, University of Virginia

So, apparently, this year big winners are Columbia, Berkeley and Northwestern....

PS. I have just found this out by typing "u.s. news law school rankings 2009" on google
Even though the official release date of the 2009 law school rankings is due on Friday March 28th 2008, the new rankings are already published on the internet (in particular on amlaw and theshark).

According to such websites (where you can find a pdf version which lists all top 100) the purported new top 10 is as follows:
1/ Yale University
2/ Harvard University, Stanford University
4/ Columbia University
5/ New York University
6/ University of California – Berkeley
7/ University of Chicago, University of Pennsylvania
9/ Northwestern University, University of Michigan – Ann Arbor, University of Virginia

So, apparently, this year big winners are Columbia, Berkeley and Northwestern....

PS. I have just found this out by typing "u.s. news law school rankings 2009" on google
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Pitch
I found the same rankings on abovethelaw:
1. Yale Law School (100)
2. (tie) Harvard Law School, Stanford Law School (91)
4. Columbia Law School (88)
5. New York University School of Law (85)
6. University of California Berkeley (formerly Boalt Hall) (81)
7. University of Chicago Law School / University of Pennsylvania Law School (80)
9. Northwestern University School of Law / University of Michigan Law School (Ann Arbor) / University of Virginia School of Law (79).

So, YLS is still in a league of its own, HLS, SLS and CLS are running behind with - more or less - 10 points difference, NYU is in middle earth and all the others are tied in two points (81-80-79).

Will Berkeley celebrate the 6th place?
I found the same rankings on abovethelaw:
1. Yale Law School (100)
2. (tie) Harvard Law School, Stanford Law School (91)
4. Columbia Law School (88)
5. New York University School of Law (85)
6. University of California – Berkeley (formerly Boalt Hall) (81)
7. University of Chicago Law School / University of Pennsylvania Law School (80)
9. Northwestern University School of Law / University of Michigan Law School (Ann Arbor) / University of Virginia School of Law (79).

So, YLS is still in a league of its own, HLS, SLS and CLS are running behind with - more or less - 10 points difference, NYU is in middle earth and all the others are tied in two points (81-80-79).

Will Berkeley celebrate the 6th place?
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Sloan
Compared to last year rankings:
CLS gained 1 place, up to #4 (and five points increase!);
Berkeley went straight from 8 to 6;
Uchicago and UPenn lost one spot and so do UMichigan;
while UVA gained 1 and NW gained 3.

Comments?
I checked on abovethelaw: American students are discussing a lot over the new rankings and it is quite interesting to actually see how rankings are important in the US
Compared to last year rankings:
CLS gained 1 place, up to #4 (and five points increase!);
Berkeley went straight from 8 to 6;
Uchicago and UPenn lost one spot and so do UMichigan;
while UVA gained 1 and NW gained 3.

Comments?
I checked on abovethelaw: American students are discussing a lot over the new rankings and it is quite interesting to actually see how rankings are important in the US
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poyentsn
Could you provide us with the link? I simply don't see it. Thanks.
Could you provide us with the link? I simply don't see it. Thanks.
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You may google "2009 Law School Ranking" and get it...
You may google "2009 Law School Ranking" and get it...

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Sloan
This is the link to the pdf
http://pdfserver.amlaw.com/ca/USNews.pdf
This is the link to the pdf
http://pdfserver.amlaw.com/ca/USNews.pdf
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dynamo
This is the link to the pdf
http://pdfserver.amlaw.com/ca/USNews.pdf


the pdf (in the link) is hard to read. any chance someone can get a better version?
<blockquote>This is the link to the pdf
http://pdfserver.amlaw.com/ca/USNews.pdf
</blockquote>

the pdf (in the link) is hard to read. any chance someone can get a better version?
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Pitch
You can find the new (leaked and unofficial) 2009 U.S. News & World Report Law School Rankings on:
http://www.abovethelaw.com/2008/03/us_news_rankings_1.php
You can find the new (leaked and unofficial) 2009 U.S. News & World Report Law School Rankings on:
http://www.abovethelaw.com/2008/03/us_news_rankings_1.php


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poyentsn
I've got it. Thanks!
I've got it. Thanks!
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If you plan to look for a job afterwards, you might want to consider the novel law school ranking by Vault. http://www.vault.com/lawschool/top25/

Since Vault is a very respected institution in matters of law firms and legal careers, this ranking might become quite influential in the near future.
best regards

123
If you plan to look for a job afterwards, you might want to consider the novel law school ranking by Vault. http://www.vault.com/lawschool/top25/

Since Vault is a very respected institution in matters of law firms and legal careers, this ranking might become quite influential in the near future.
best regards

123
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mauricel
Hey all

I found the column "employed 8 months after graduation" really interesting [and mportant], do anybody here have this information for LLM graduates?

I guess the pdf stats apply to JD only.

Thanks
maurice
Hey all

I found the column "employed 8 months after graduation" really interesting [and mportant], do anybody here have this information for LLM graduates?

I guess the pdf stats apply to JD only.

Thanks
maurice
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Pitch
The rankings apply only to J.D.
I don't think there are any stats concerning LLM graduates...but anyhow, and with all due precautions, the J.D. rankings can be used also by foreign graduates applying to U.S. Law schools
The rankings apply only to J.D.
I don't think there are any stats concerning LLM graduates...but anyhow, and with all due precautions, the J.D. rankings can be used also by foreign graduates applying to U.S. Law schools
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LuvNYU
So sad to see NYU down one spot to 5th place again...maybe we will come back next year!
So sad to see NYU down one spot to 5th place again...maybe we will come back next year!
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Sloan
Last year the thread relevant to the new rankings was very active, apparently this year a lot of people read the thread but do not provide any comments...strange, because rankings are cited almost everywhere on this internet website.
Last year the thread relevant to the new rankings was very active, apparently this year a lot of people read the thread but do not provide any comments...strange, because rankings are cited almost everywhere on this internet website.
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Bender
I'd like to take that as a good sign; these sorts of rankings are not only significantly flawed at the J.D. level, but for an LL.M. in particular I hope they would only play a tiny part in the decision-making process.

Obviously a degree from Harvard will move your career along faster than one from the Alabama Institute of Technology, but otherwise these "rankings" shouldn't affect a choice between Harvard and Yale, or between Stanford and NYU.
I'd like to take that as a good sign; these sorts of rankings are not only significantly flawed at the J.D. level, but for an LL.M. in particular I hope they would only play a tiny part in the decision-making process.

Obviously a degree from Harvard will move your career along faster than one from the Alabama Institute of Technology, but otherwise these "rankings" shouldn't affect a choice between Harvard and Yale, or between Stanford and NYU.





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Sloan
I agree with you Bender...if you have time on your hands have a look at the blog on abovethelaw.com; american students are crazy about rankings: people from UChicago are feeling miserable because of the drop while Berkely students are celebrating! It sounds incredible but that's the way it is
I agree with you Bender...if you have time on your hands have a look at the blog on abovethelaw.com; american students are crazy about rankings: people from UChicago are feeling miserable because of the drop while Berkely students are celebrating! It sounds incredible but that's the way it is
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dynamo
The official ranking is out:


http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/grad/law/search
The official ranking is out:


http://grad-schools.usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/grad/law/search
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Sloan
Thank you dynamo!
So the leaked version was correct.
Thank you dynamo!
So the leaked version was correct.
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mnementh
Does anyone have the new specialized rankings? IP for example..
Does anyone have the new specialized rankings? IP for example..
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sfinx
It's nice to see "my" university ranked #11 (vault ranking) and #15 (us news ranking).


Taken into account the exclusive size of the llm program, the academic excellence of the director of the program (who is also prof. in corporate law), and the unbelievable efforts from really everyone at the law school to make every student feel welcome, vanderbilt has definitely one of the best llm programs in the US.
It's nice to see "my" university ranked #11 (vault ranking) and #15 (us news ranking).


Taken into account the exclusive size of the llm program, the academic excellence of the director of the program (who is also prof. in corporate law), and the unbelievable efforts from really everyone at the law school to make every student feel welcome, vanderbilt has definitely one of the best llm programs in the US.
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