Oxford BCL/MJur 2017-2018 Applicants


idn4ihl

FYI, I received an email regarding a scholarship one can apply for (but it's not specifically linked to my application so it doesn't matter anyway). But the most important bit is the end of the email, which says the following:

"Please note that you should not interpret this message as meaning we intend to offer you a place on the course to which you applied. We are still in the process of assessing graduate applications and are not in a position to report any decisions at this point, but will let all candidates know whether they have been successful or unsuccessful by 17 March."

So I guess we'll have an answer within the next two weeks :)

[Edited by idn4ihl on Mar 02, 2017]

FYI, I received an email regarding a scholarship one can apply for (but it's not specifically linked to my application so it doesn't matter anyway). But the most important bit is the end of the email, which says the following:

"Please note that you should not interpret this message as meaning we intend to offer you a place on the course to which you applied. We are still in the process of assessing graduate applications and are not in a position to report any decisions at this point, but will let all candidates know whether they have been successful or unsuccessful by 17 March."

So I guess we'll have an answer within the next two weeks :)
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Inactive User

FYI, I received an email regarding a scholarship one can apply for (but it's not specifically linked to my application so it doesn't matter anyway). But the most important bit is the end of the email, which says the following:

"Please note that you should not interpret this message as meaning we intend to offer you a place on the course to which you applied. We are still in the process of assessing graduate applications and are not in a position to report any decisions at this point, but will let all candidates know whether they have been successful or unsuccessful by 17 March."

So I guess we'll have an answer within the next two weeks :)


I was going to post the exact same thing :)

[quote]FYI, I received an email regarding a scholarship one can apply for (but it's not specifically linked to my application so it doesn't matter anyway). But the most important bit is the end of the email, which says the following:

"Please note that you should not interpret this message as meaning we intend to offer you a place on the course to which you applied. We are still in the process of assessing graduate applications and are not in a position to report any decisions at this point, but will let all candidates know whether they have been successful or unsuccessful by 17 March."

So I guess we'll have an answer within the next two weeks :)[/quote]

I was going to post the exact same thing :)
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Has anyone heard anything yet? :)

Has anyone heard anything yet? :)
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Inactive User

Just from the Master in Law and Finance (partially same faculty as the MJur). Nothing from the MJur yet.

Just from the Master in Law and Finance (partially same faculty as the MJur). Nothing from the MJur yet.
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Camford

Has anyone heard anything yet? :)


Panel is meeting at the present moment to settle the BCL decisions. A total of about 900 applicants for the BCL and MJur. Outcome likely to be notified to applicants by next Wednesday but possibly next Monday or Tuesday.

[Edited by Camford on Mar 09, 2017]

[quote]Has anyone heard anything yet? :)[/quote]

Panel is meeting at the present moment to settle the BCL decisions. A total of about 900 applicants for the BCL and MJur. Outcome likely to be notified to applicants by next Wednesday but possibly next Monday or Tuesday.
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Inactive User

Has anyone heard anything yet? :)


Panel is meeting at the present moment to settle the BCL decisions. A total of about 900 applicants for the BCL and MJur. Outcome likely to be notified to applicants by next Wednesday but possibly next Monday or Tuesday. [/quote

Thanks for the information:)

[quote][quote]Has anyone heard anything yet? :)[/quote]

Panel is meeting at the present moment to settle the BCL decisions. A total of about 900 applicants for the BCL and MJur. Outcome likely to be notified to applicants by next Wednesday but possibly next Monday or Tuesday. [/quote

Thanks for the information:)
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grisham

Has anyone heard anything yet? :)


Panel is meeting at the present moment to settle the BCL decisions. A total of about 900 applicants for the BCL and MJur. Outcome likely to be notified to applicants by next Wednesday but possibly next Monday or Tuesday.


Thanks for letting us know, essc! Do you mind telling us where you got this info? On their website, I understand they estimate an average of about 350 applicants for the MJur yearly.

[quote][quote]Has anyone heard anything yet? :)[/quote]

Panel is meeting at the present moment to settle the BCL decisions. A total of about 900 applicants for the BCL and MJur. Outcome likely to be notified to applicants by next Wednesday but possibly next Monday or Tuesday. [/quote]

Thanks for letting us know, essc! Do you mind telling us where you got this info? On their website, I understand they estimate an average of about 350 applicants for the MJur yearly.
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lox

Does anyone know anything about the DPhil?

Does anyone know anything about the DPhil?
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grisham

If ever the applicant pool size is unusually large this year, do you guys think admissions will also proportionately increase the class size, ex. 50 for MJur, if at all possible? Which may perhaps explain the apparently longer periods for releasing admissions decisions.

If ever the applicant pool size is unusually large this year, do you guys think admissions will also proportionately increase the class size, ex. 50 for MJur, if at all possible? Which may perhaps explain the apparently longer periods for releasing admissions decisions.
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Inactive User

The applicant pool is not larger than in previous years. They had an average of about 550 for the BCL and about 350 for the MJur in the past.

The applicant pool is not larger than in previous years. They had an average of about 550 for the BCL and about 350 for the MJur in the past.
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grisham

The applicant pool is not larger than in previous years. They had an average of about 550 for the BCL and about 350 for the MJur in the past.


Thanks for the clarification!

[quote]The applicant pool is not larger than in previous years. They had an average of about 550 for the BCL and about 350 for the MJur in the past.[/quote]

Thanks for the clarification!
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Camford

Has anyone heard anything yet? :)


Panel is meeting at the present moment to settle the BCL decisions. A total of about 900 applicants for the BCL and MJur. Outcome likely to be notified to applicants by next Wednesday but possibly next Monday or Tuesday.


Thanks for letting us know, essc! Do you mind telling us where you got this info? On their website, I understand they estimate an average of about 350 applicants for the MJur yearly.


I called the Law Faculty. Also, they generally make 224 offers for BCL/MJur. Generally, 85% of applications satisfy the first requirement. After the meeting yesterday, there's quite a bit of administrative paperwork, which is why they take a bit of time to issue decisions.

[quote][quote][quote]Has anyone heard anything yet? :)[/quote]

Panel is meeting at the present moment to settle the BCL decisions. A total of about 900 applicants for the BCL and MJur. Outcome likely to be notified to applicants by next Wednesday but possibly next Monday or Tuesday. [/quote]

Thanks for letting us know, essc! Do you mind telling us where you got this info? On their website, I understand they estimate an average of about 350 applicants for the MJur yearly.[/quote]

I called the Law Faculty. Also, they generally make 224 offers for BCL/MJur. Generally, 85% of applications satisfy the first requirement. After the meeting yesterday, there's quite a bit of administrative paperwork, which is why they take a bit of time to issue decisions.
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grisham



Panel is meeting at the present moment to settle the BCL decisions. A total of about 900 applicants for the BCL and MJur. Outcome likely to be notified to applicants by next Wednesday but possibly next Monday or Tuesday.


Thanks for letting us know, essc! Do you mind telling us where you got this info? On their website, I understand they estimate an average of about 350 applicants for the MJur yearly.


I called the Law Faculty. Also, they generally make 224 offers for BCL/MJur. Generally, 85% of applications satisfy the first requirement. After the meeting yesterday, there's quite a bit of administrative paperwork, which is why they take a bit of time to issue decisions.


Very helpful indeed. Thanks essc! Feel free to keep us posted about developments you may know.

[quote][quote][quote][quote]Has anyone heard anything yet? :)[/quote]

Panel is meeting at the present moment to settle the BCL decisions. A total of about 900 applicants for the BCL and MJur. Outcome likely to be notified to applicants by next Wednesday but possibly next Monday or Tuesday. [/quote]

Thanks for letting us know, essc! Do you mind telling us where you got this info? On their website, I understand they estimate an average of about 350 applicants for the MJur yearly.[/quote]

I called the Law Faculty. Also, they generally make 224 offers for BCL/MJur. Generally, 85% of applications satisfy the first requirement. After the meeting yesterday, there's quite a bit of administrative paperwork, which is why they take a bit of time to issue decisions. [/quote]

Very helpful indeed. Thanks essc! Feel free to keep us posted about developments you may know.
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Axolotl



Panel is meeting at the present moment to settle the BCL decisions. A total of about 900 applicants for the BCL and MJur. Outcome likely to be notified to applicants by next Wednesday but possibly next Monday or Tuesday.


Thanks for letting us know, essc! Do you mind telling us where you got this info? On their website, I understand they estimate an average of about 350 applicants for the MJur yearly.


I called the Law Faculty. Also, they generally make 224 offers for BCL/MJur. Generally, 85% of applications satisfy the first requirement. After the meeting yesterday, there's quite a bit of administrative paperwork, which is why they take a bit of time to issue decisions.


Hey, BCL applicant here. I have a 1st class (70% average) from a Russell Group university. The wait is killing me. I achieved some fantastic grades in a few of my modules (75%+) which possibly put me at the top of the class in those subjects (my uni doesn't say if you were). I'm guessing quite a few BCL applicants have that exact same CV too, though - which makes it more worrying.

I also think I was in the top 5% of my class which graduated. There were 337 of us, roughly 10% received 1sts (about 32), but I know a few of those people didn't achieve an average of 70%, they had 68% or 69% average and 50% of their passes had been 1st class. Again, I'm guessing most of us have this kind of pedigree though.

So, my question is, out of the 900 MJur and BCL applicants who have applied, the Law Faculty is saying that roughly 85% of them all achieved the 1st class honours requirement? I wouldn't be surprised if it's true, but if reduced just to the BCL, that's around 486 applicants with 1st class honours, correct?

That's an awful lot for sure. I don't know what will separate a lot of us at that level. With 224 offers available for 900 applicants, presumably extra weighting is given to the BCL (as it proportionally receives more applicants), so as a ballpark figure maybe 170 BCL offers will be made for around 100 places, so 170/486 gives about a 35% chance of being selected, all things being equal, names plucked out of a hat. In a way that makes me feel better, but in others it makes me feel worse.

So, what kind of academic backgrounds/CVs do people have here? Is my maths correct that it's roughly 486 1st class applicants striving for around 170 offers?

[quote][quote][quote][quote]Has anyone heard anything yet? :)[/quote]

Panel is meeting at the present moment to settle the BCL decisions. A total of about 900 applicants for the BCL and MJur. Outcome likely to be notified to applicants by next Wednesday but possibly next Monday or Tuesday. [/quote]

Thanks for letting us know, essc! Do you mind telling us where you got this info? On their website, I understand they estimate an average of about 350 applicants for the MJur yearly.[/quote]

I called the Law Faculty. Also, they generally make 224 offers for BCL/MJur. Generally, 85% of applications satisfy the first requirement. After the meeting yesterday, there's quite a bit of administrative paperwork, which is why they take a bit of time to issue decisions. [/quote]

Hey, BCL applicant here. I have a 1st class (70% average) from a Russell Group university. The wait is killing me. I achieved some fantastic grades in a few of my modules (75%+) which possibly put me at the top of the class in those subjects (my uni doesn't say if you were). I'm guessing quite a few BCL applicants have that exact same CV too, though - which makes it more worrying.

I also think I was in the top 5% of my class which graduated. There were 337 of us, roughly 10% received 1sts (about 32), but I know a few of those people didn't achieve an average of 70%, they had 68% or 69% average and 50% of their passes had been 1st class. Again, I'm guessing most of us have this kind of pedigree though.

So, my question is, out of the 900 MJur and BCL applicants who have applied, the Law Faculty is saying that roughly 85% of them all achieved the 1st class honours requirement? I wouldn't be surprised if it's true, but if reduced just to the BCL, that's around 486 applicants with 1st class honours, correct?

That's an awful lot for sure. I don't know what will separate a lot of us at that level. With 224 offers available for 900 applicants, presumably extra weighting is given to the BCL (as it proportionally receives more applicants), so as a ballpark figure maybe 170 BCL offers will be made for around 100 places, so 170/486 gives about a 35% chance of being selected, all things being equal, names plucked out of a hat. In a way that makes me feel better, but in others it makes me feel worse.

So, what kind of academic backgrounds/CVs do people have here? Is my maths correct that it's roughly 486 1st class applicants striving for around 170 offers?
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JamesMB

My CV is virtually identical. Got second highest overall grade of my class in first year, disappointedly got a mid 2:1 in second year, but got straight firsts in my final year (78, 78, 78, 75, 71), bar one high 2:1 (68). Graduated in top 5% with a First. Russel group Uni. Let's see!

[Edited by JamesMB on Mar 10, 2017]

My CV is virtually identical. Got second highest overall grade of my class in first year, disappointedly got a mid 2:1 in second year, but got straight firsts in my final year (78, 78, 78, 75, 71), bar one high 2:1 (68). Graduated in top 5% with a First. Russel group Uni. Let's see!
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Axolotl

My CV is virtually identical. Got second highest overall grade of my class in first year, dissappintly got a mid 2:1 in second year, but got straight firsts in my final year (78, 78, 78, 75, 71), bar one high 2:1 (68). Graduated in top 5% with a First. Russel group Uni. Let's see!


Really impressive. More so than me - I had 76, 73, 72, 72, 70 and 68 in my final year. Did your uni or referees let you know if you were in the top 5%? I think it's probably safe to assume you were with those grades though! It's like a 73 average?

I know they don't put too much weight into extra curriculars, but did you have an impressive set of those? Do you think those will be influential in any way? I competed in Mooting and did pretty well, legal essay competitions and placed as a runner up (twice), national level sport, and co-founded a charity, as well as pro bono/legal volunteering. I was shortlisted as Student of the Year at my uni (10 finalists out of around 18,000 eligible students). I know the application process says they place essentially no weight on extra curriculars, but that can also feel a bit harsh when you maintain 1st class grades and juggle around all your other commitments!

[quote]My CV is virtually identical. Got second highest overall grade of my class in first year, dissappintly got a mid 2:1 in second year, but got straight firsts in my final year (78, 78, 78, 75, 71), bar one high 2:1 (68). Graduated in top 5% with a First. Russel group Uni. Let's see! [/quote]

Really impressive. More so than me - I had 76, 73, 72, 72, 70 and 68 in my final year. Did your uni or referees let you know if you were in the top 5%? I think it's probably safe to assume you were with those grades though! It's like a 73 average?

I know they don't put too much weight into extra curriculars, but did you have an impressive set of those? Do you think those will be influential in any way? I competed in Mooting and did pretty well, legal essay competitions and placed as a runner up (twice), national level sport, and co-founded a charity, as well as pro bono/legal volunteering. I was shortlisted as Student of the Year at my uni (10 finalists out of around 18,000 eligible students). I know the application process says they place essentially no weight on extra curriculars, but that can also feel a bit harsh when you maintain 1st class grades and juggle around all your other commitments!
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JamesMB

My CV is virtually identical. Got second highest overall grade of my class in first year, dissappintly got a mid 2:1 in second year, but got straight firsts in my final year (78, 78, 78, 75, 71), bar one high 2:1 (68). Graduated in top 5% with a First. Russel group Uni. Let's see!


Really impressive. More so than me - I had 76, 73, 72, 72, 70 and 68 in my final year. Did your uni or referees let you know if you were in the top 5%? I think it's probably safe to assume you were with those grades though! It's like a 73 average?

I know they don't put too much weight into extra curriculars, but did you have an impressive set of those? Do you think those will be influential in any way? I competed in Mooting and did pretty well, legal essay competitions and placed as a runner up (twice), national level sport, and co-founded a charity, as well as pro bono/legal volunteering. I was shortlisted as Student of the Year at my uni (10 finalists out of around 18,000 eligible students). I know the application process says they place essentially no weight on extra curriculars, but that can also feel a bit harsh when you maintain 1st class grades and juggle around all your other commitments!

[quote][quote]My CV is virtually identical. Got second highest overall grade of my class in first year, dissappintly got a mid 2:1 in second year, but got straight firsts in my final year (78, 78, 78, 75, 71), bar one high 2:1 (68). Graduated in top 5% with a First. Russel group Uni. Let's see! [/quote]

Really impressive. More so than me - I had 76, 73, 72, 72, 70 and 68 in my final year. Did your uni or referees let you know if you were in the top 5%? I think it's probably safe to assume you were with those grades though! It's like a 73 average?

I know they don't put too much weight into extra curriculars, but did you have an impressive set of those? Do you think those will be influential in any way? I competed in Mooting and did pretty well, legal essay competitions and placed as a runner up (twice), national level sport, and co-founded a charity, as well as pro bono/legal volunteering. I was shortlisted as Student of the Year at my uni (10 finalists out of around 18,000 eligible students). I know the application process says they place essentially no weight on extra curriculars, but that can also feel a bit harsh when you maintain 1st class grades and juggle around all your other commitments![/quote]
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JamesMB

My CV is virtually identical. Got second highest overall grade of my class in first year, dissappintly got a mid 2:1 in second year, but got straight firsts in my final year (78, 78, 78, 75, 71), bar one high 2:1 (68). Graduated in top 5% with a First. Russel group Uni. Let's see!


Really impressive. More so than me - I had 76, 73, 72, 72, 70 and 68 in my final year. Did your uni or referees let you know if you were in the top 5%? I think it's probably safe to assume you were with those grades though! It's like a 73 average?

I know they don't put too much weight into extra curriculars, but did you have an impressive set of those? Do you think those will be influential in any way? I competed in Mooting and did pretty well, legal essay competitions and placed as a runner up (twice), national level sport, and co-founded a charity, as well as pro bono/legal volunteering. I was shortlisted as Student of the Year at my uni (10 finalists out of around 18,000 eligible students). I know the application process says they place essentially no weight on extra curriculars, but that can also feel a bit harsh when you maintain 1st class grades and juggle around all your other commitments!


Wow, a really impressive CV! I certainly can't compete with your extra-curriculares - I only played a bit of football for my course and did some mooting and debating everyone now and then. I was on a four year LLB course and so spent third year at the University of Hong Kong, but I don't think that adds much/any value!
As you said, a huge number of applicants will have the requisite grades, so you'd have to assume that extracurriculars would be taken into consideration. I mean, why else would they have asked for a CV? I wouldn't worry too much - it's out of our hands. Less than a week to go!

Edit: ignore my first 'response' - accidentally clicked 'reply to post' on my phone before having written anything!

[Edited by JamesMB on Mar 10, 2017]

[quote][quote][quote]My CV is virtually identical. Got second highest overall grade of my class in first year, dissappintly got a mid 2:1 in second year, but got straight firsts in my final year (78, 78, 78, 75, 71), bar one high 2:1 (68). Graduated in top 5% with a First. Russel group Uni. Let's see! [/quote]

Really impressive. More so than me - I had 76, 73, 72, 72, 70 and 68 in my final year. Did your uni or referees let you know if you were in the top 5%? I think it's probably safe to assume you were with those grades though! It's like a 73 average?

I know they don't put too much weight into extra curriculars, but did you have an impressive set of those? Do you think those will be influential in any way? I competed in Mooting and did pretty well, legal essay competitions and placed as a runner up (twice), national level sport, and co-founded a charity, as well as pro bono/legal volunteering. I was shortlisted as Student of the Year at my uni (10 finalists out of around 18,000 eligible students). I know the application process says they place essentially no weight on extra curriculars, but that can also feel a bit harsh when you maintain 1st class grades and juggle around all your other commitments![/quote]

Wow, a really impressive CV! I certainly can't compete with your extra-curriculares - I only played a bit of football for my course and did some mooting and debating everyone now and then. I was on a four year LLB course and so spent third year at the University of Hong Kong, but I don't think that adds much/any value!
As you said, a huge number of applicants will have the requisite grades, so you'd have to assume that extracurriculars would be taken into consideration. I mean, why else would they have asked for a CV? I wouldn't worry too much - it's out of our hands. Less than a week to go!

Edit: ignore my first 'response' - accidentally clicked 'reply to post' on my phone before having written anything!
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Axolotl



Really impressive. More so than me - I had 76, 73, 72, 72, 70 and 68 in my final year. Did your uni or referees let you know if you were in the top 5%? I think it's probably safe to assume you were with those grades though! It's like a 73 average?

I know they don't put too much weight into extra curriculars, but did you have an impressive set of those? Do you think those will be influential in any way? I competed in Mooting and did pretty well, legal essay competitions and placed as a runner up (twice), national level sport, and co-founded a charity, as well as pro bono/legal volunteering. I was shortlisted as Student of the Year at my uni (10 finalists out of around 18,000 eligible students). I know the application process says they place essentially no weight on extra curriculars, but that can also feel a bit harsh when you maintain 1st class grades and juggle around all your other commitments!


Wow, a really impressive CV! I certainly can't compete with your extra-curriculares - I only played a bit of football for my course and did some mooting and debating everyone now and then. I was on a four year LLB course and so spent third year at the University of Hong Kong, but I don't think that adds much/any value!
As you said, a huge number of applicants will have the requisite grades, so you'd have to assume that extracurriculars would be taken into consideration. I mean, why else would they have asked for a CV? I wouldn't worry too much - it's out of our hands. Less than a week to go!

Edit: ignore my first 'response' - accidentally clicked 'reply to post' on my phone before having written anything!


Third year in Hong Kong must have been fantastic, you must have had a wild time!

It is indeed out of our hands. As with everyone else, though, I'm sure, this is something I really do want, and many of my ambitions for the future likely hinge on it.

[quote][quote][quote][quote]My CV is virtually identical. Got second highest overall grade of my class in first year, dissappintly got a mid 2:1 in second year, but got straight firsts in my final year (78, 78, 78, 75, 71), bar one high 2:1 (68). Graduated in top 5% with a First. Russel group Uni. Let's see! [/quote]

Really impressive. More so than me - I had 76, 73, 72, 72, 70 and 68 in my final year. Did your uni or referees let you know if you were in the top 5%? I think it's probably safe to assume you were with those grades though! It's like a 73 average?

I know they don't put too much weight into extra curriculars, but did you have an impressive set of those? Do you think those will be influential in any way? I competed in Mooting and did pretty well, legal essay competitions and placed as a runner up (twice), national level sport, and co-founded a charity, as well as pro bono/legal volunteering. I was shortlisted as Student of the Year at my uni (10 finalists out of around 18,000 eligible students). I know the application process says they place essentially no weight on extra curriculars, but that can also feel a bit harsh when you maintain 1st class grades and juggle around all your other commitments![/quote]

Wow, a really impressive CV! I certainly can't compete with your extra-curriculares - I only played a bit of football for my course and did some mooting and debating everyone now and then. I was on a four year LLB course and so spent third year at the University of Hong Kong, but I don't think that adds much/any value!
As you said, a huge number of applicants will have the requisite grades, so you'd have to assume that extracurriculars would be taken into consideration. I mean, why else would they have asked for a CV? I wouldn't worry too much - it's out of our hands. Less than a week to go!

Edit: ignore my first 'response' - accidentally clicked 'reply to post' on my phone before having written anything![/quote]

Third year in Hong Kong must have been fantastic, you must have had a wild time!

It is indeed out of our hands. As with everyone else, though, I'm sure, this is something I really do want, and many of my ambitions for the future likely hinge on it.
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Camford

So, what kind of academic backgrounds/CVs do people have here? Is my maths correct that it's roughly 486 1st class applicants striving for around 170 offers?


1st class for my LLB from a (and arguably the) top law school in Australia (ranked within top 4% of 234 students). Currently studying Masters of Law where I have topped several subjects there. They put a lot of weight on your references and your academic writing. I'm hoping that my references have sway given they are all BCL graduates and one of them is the Dean of the law school I studied at.

Worked as a litigation lawyer for several years and have been appointed a judge associate for 2019. But they do not put any weight to non-academic interests or professional experience save for it revealing some future academic achievement - see https://www.law.ox.ac.uk/admissions/postgraduate/postgraduate-admission-faqs

[Edited by Camford on Mar 11, 2017]

[quote] So, what kind of academic backgrounds/CVs do people have here? Is my maths correct that it's roughly 486 1st class applicants striving for around 170 offers?[/quote]

1st class for my LLB from a (and arguably the) top law school in Australia (ranked within top 4% of 234 students). Currently studying Masters of Law where I have topped several subjects there. They put a lot of weight on your references and your academic writing. I'm hoping that my references have sway given they are all BCL graduates and one of them is the Dean of the law school I studied at.

Worked as a litigation lawyer for several years and have been appointed a judge associate for 2019. But they do not put any weight to non-academic interests or professional experience save for it revealing some future academic achievement - see https://www.law.ox.ac.uk/admissions/postgraduate/postgraduate-admission-faqs
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