NYU LLM: really so many students?


Masha
hey,
was wondering about the class of LLM students in NYU, is it really 450 people??? how does it work with so many students and is there a chance you can even once talk to a professor??? for example, if I had an offer for a research associate position????

thanks for your ideas.
hey,
was wondering about the class of LLM students in NYU, is it really 450 people??? how does it work with so many students and is there a chance you can even once talk to a professor??? for example, if I had an offer for a research associate position????

thanks for your ideas.
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Yes it really is that large. The general consensus on this board (the survey on http://www.llm-guide.com/board/67672 is illuminating), except for the students from that institution and students-who-are-from-that-institution-but-pretend-not-to-be-from-there, is that unless you are doing the tax LLM, CLS would be a better place to go. Unless you can get into HYS which is better of course.

Expect me because of this post to get viciously attacked by people on this board who are from there or who pretend they are not from there but refuse to say anything else about which school they are in. I won't bother to reply to their messages in this thread, the vitrol of such students who see their own identities as intimately linked to the education that they have had is something I won't bother to entertain. You can see their past record of defending the school to the death in other threads.
Yes it really is that large. The general consensus on this board (the survey on http://www.llm-guide.com/board/67672 is illuminating), except for the students from that institution and students-who-are-from-that-institution-but-pretend-not-to-be-from-there, is that unless you are doing the tax LLM, CLS would be a better place to go. Unless you can get into HYS which is better of course.

Expect me because of this post to get viciously attacked by people on this board who are from there or who pretend they are not from there but refuse to say anything else about which school they are in. I won't bother to reply to their messages in this thread, the vitrol of such students who see their own identities as intimately linked to the education that they have had is something I won't bother to entertain. You can see their past record of defending the school to the death in other threads.
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Masha
thanks for the information!

i did apply only to NYU School of Law for the International Legal Studies and to Oxfrod for MJur. to both i have been accepted. hard to decide where to go, so everything is important.
thanks for the information!

i did apply only to NYU School of Law for the International Legal Studies and to Oxfrod for MJur. to both i have been accepted. hard to decide where to go, so everything is important.
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You're welcome. Between an Oxford education and an education in an American university that is not HYS, all else being equal, I would say you should go for Oxford if your primary concern is that of class size. As a general principle, and this extends beyond NYU and applies to most US universities, class sizes in most American institutions are a lot larger than in Oxford especially since Oxford still practices the individualized tutorial system.
You're welcome. Between an Oxford education and an education in an American university that is not HYS, all else being equal, I would say you should go for Oxford if your primary concern is that of class size. As a general principle, and this extends beyond NYU and applies to most US universities, class sizes in most American institutions are a lot larger than in Oxford especially since Oxford still practices the individualized tutorial system.
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nicolas_a
they expect around 250 international students & 150 us students (some of them studying part time if i understood correctly)
i don't know how large are the international legal studies classes though
they expect around 250 international students & 150 us students (some of them studying part time if i understood correctly)
i don't know how large are the international legal studies classes though
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Masha
the class size is not the main issue, but i think it is quite important. especially if it is hard to decide where to go for your graduate studies (because both LLM programs are great).

thanks again.
the class size is not the main issue, but i think it is quite important. especially if it is hard to decide where to go for your graduate studies (because both LLM programs are great).

thanks again.
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nicolas_a
I also got in oxford and even though it is very prestigious I declined the offer... first of all because Oxford city is probably not as great as Oxford school of law itself, but also because their academic program didn't totally fit me

(for total clearance and to avoid doyouresearch's sarcasm, I'm most likely leaning towards nyu, notably because of their taxation program, even though I've not declined lse yet)
I also got in oxford and even though it is very prestigious I declined the offer... first of all because Oxford city is probably not as great as Oxford school of law itself, but also because their academic program didn't totally fit me

(for total clearance and to avoid doyouresearch's sarcasm, I'm most likely leaning towards nyu, notably because of their taxation program, even though I've not declined lse yet)
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Masha
taxation in NYU is great, LSE is not even close to them? so i do not get why u even think on this issue.

in my sphere it is a little different. and nyc is much more attractive than oxfrod, but again, student life is great everywhere:)
taxation in NYU is great, LSE is not even close to them? so i do not get why u even think on this issue.

in my sphere it is a little different. and nyc is much more attractive than oxfrod, but again, student life is great everywhere:)
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nicolas_a
well because LSE remains my first choice in the UK given my field and because of the cost :E

I guess so... :)

what Ox college did you get in ? according to a French current student I've contacted, it could be a pretty crucial parameter
well because LSE remains my first choice in the UK given my field and because of the cost :E

I guess so... :)

what Ox college did you get in ? according to a French current student I've contacted, it could be a pretty crucial parameter
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Ruleoflaw
The problem with the NYU LLM is also that the class comprises of JD students as well. So one must take that into account. The lottery system can also hurt real bad at times. I am taking these factors into consideration before making the final choice. I am paying my deposit today though....
The problem with the NYU LLM is also that the class comprises of JD students as well. So one must take that into account. The lottery system can also hurt real bad at times. I am taking these factors into consideration before making the final choice. I am paying my deposit today though....
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Masha
really?

i did not receive a college offer yet, but i have choosen St. Hugh's, Trinity and St. Anthony's... did you hear anything about them?
really?

i did not receive a college offer yet, but i have choosen St. Hugh's, Trinity and St. Anthony's... did you hear anything about them?
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Masha
i have paid my NYU deposit already as soon as i heard because i did not get oxford at that time)))

but anyway, in my situation the programs do not differ much, so i am very much confused on the issue.
i have paid my NYU deposit already as soon as i heard because i did not get oxford at that time)))

but anyway, in my situation the programs do not differ much, so i am very much confused on the issue.
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Ruleoflaw
All of us are confused! But the good part is that we cant really go wrong with our choices as such....
All of us are confused! But the good part is that we cant really go wrong with our choices as such....
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Masha
that is what i definitely agree with!!! so the main things i consider: funding and the city to live in for a year.

what are your options?
that is what i definitely agree with!!! so the main things i consider: funding and the city to live in for a year.

what are your options?
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Ruleoflaw
At the moment need to decide between NYU and LSE. Reputation, courses, cost and the overall experience are the parameters. I am from India. As such I will gain as much from NY as I will from London, so the experience will be great I am sure.I am looking at a mix of Human Rights and Commercial Laws. UK will give me one year as opposed to 9 months in the US. Smaller class in the UK. Reputation wise there's nothing to choose between them but LSE is more recognised here as such. NYU gives me better courses but larger class, classes with JD students, its expensive but will give me an opportunity to get a job. So, still confused!
At the moment need to decide between NYU and LSE. Reputation, courses, cost and the overall experience are the parameters. I am from India. As such I will gain as much from NY as I will from London, so the experience will be great I am sure.I am looking at a mix of Human Rights and Commercial Laws. UK will give me one year as opposed to 9 months in the US. Smaller class in the UK. Reputation wise there's nothing to choose between them but LSE is more recognised here as such. NYU gives me better courses but larger class, classes with JD students, its expensive but will give me an opportunity to get a job. So, still confused!
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nicolas_a
I could have written your last post Masha !

I haven't heard about these 3 but I'll ask
I could have written your last post Masha !

I haven't heard about these 3 but I'll ask
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Masha
ruleoflaw, i just love NYC))

nicolas, thanks for asking about the colleges! hard to figure something out just from the internet
ruleoflaw, i just love NYC))

nicolas, thanks for asking about the colleges! hard to figure something out just from the internet
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(for total clearance and to avoid doyouresearch's sarcasm, I'm most likely leaning towards nyu, notably because of their taxation program, even though I've not declined lse yet)


nicolas_a - I apologize, I didn't intend to include you in the category of people who I'm somewhat cynical about. My unreserved apologies if it were construed that way. I would agree with you completely and would have taken the same choice you did...for the tax LLM, NYU's program is one of the best, if not the best, in the US.
<blockquote> (for total clearance and to avoid doyouresearch's sarcasm, I'm most likely leaning towards nyu, notably because of their taxation program, even though I've not declined lse yet)</blockquote>

nicolas_a - I apologize, I didn't intend to include you in the category of people who I'm somewhat cynical about. My unreserved apologies if it were construed that way. I would agree with you completely and would have taken the same choice you did...for the tax LLM, NYU's program is one of the best, if not the best, in the US.
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nicolas_a
non taken !

I was just kidding anyway, I think fighting on llm guide about pros & cons is pretty pointless : we'll all end up lawyering it up behind a desk..:)
non taken !

I was just kidding anyway, I think fighting on llm guide about pros & cons is pretty pointless : we'll all end up lawyering it up behind a desk..:)
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Great then. And agreed...we should reserve our vitrol for opposing counsel from the comforts of our desk where we get paid for doing so ;)
Great then. And agreed...we should reserve our vitrol for opposing counsel from the comforts of our desk where we get paid for doing so ;)
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