Those who have been admitted to the LL.M programs at HLS and/or CLS and/or NYU, could you please let us know here? It would be very useful for others to guage their chances. Thanks!
HLS/CLS/NYU Results
Posted Feb 04, 2010 07:01
Posted Feb 04, 2010 09:55
HI Kinestic!
Thats the only 3 law schools I also applied to!!! so we are in exactly the same position!!!
good luck...
Thats the only 3 law schools I also applied to!!! so we are in exactly the same position!!!
good luck...
Posted Feb 04, 2010 10:01
I think that NYU and HLS do not send their answers before march...
Posted Feb 04, 2010 10:16
Hi guys
Posted Feb 04, 2010 11:14
@hopeful: Thanks. Though I don't know if it was the wisest thing for me to do - i have lousy grades (but 2 and a half years' work exp at two of the top law firms in India and more than half a dozen international publications). Its a gamble and I really hope that it works.
which program have you applied for at NYU? does anyone know how many seats NYU has for the traditional LLM?
which program have you applied for at NYU? does anyone know how many seats NYU has for the traditional LLM?
Posted Feb 04, 2010 11:28
What do you mean by "lousy" grades?
I don't know..I also applied for the general LLM. They have about 425 LLM students...
I don't know..I also applied for the general LLM. They have about 425 LLM students...
Posted Feb 04, 2010 11:34
by lousy grades i mean an aggregate of 58% marks. With those grades, i would be ranked around 30 in a class of 100.
Posted Feb 04, 2010 11:43
by lousy grades i mean an aggregate of 58% marks. With those grades, i would be ranked around 30 in a class of 100.
Ok, this however is not lousy, but above average...My grades aren't outstanding neither...I also work in one of the best law firms and have about 3 years of exp...so my hope is the same!
Ok, this however is not lousy, but above average...My grades aren't outstanding neither...I also work in one of the best law firms and have about 3 years of exp...so my hope is the same!
Posted Feb 04, 2010 12:55
Same here... LSAC evaluated me as above average (my transcript says 2.6/4.00 or 78%)
I have six years of work experience (exclusing summer interships) in the top law in my country, which is known by these universities (due to participation to job fairs).
Few publications.
Secured a adjunct teaching position after LLM. Good rec. letter etc.
But guees what?
CLS rejected me in the early review. So I feel hopeless now about HLS and NYU.
I don't want to disappoint you but I guess this year they look for people who have both good grades + good experience.
I wish I am wrong :)
I have six years of work experience (exclusing summer interships) in the top law in my country, which is known by these universities (due to participation to job fairs).
Few publications.
Secured a adjunct teaching position after LLM. Good rec. letter etc.
But guees what?
CLS rejected me in the early review. So I feel hopeless now about HLS and NYU.
I don't want to disappoint you but I guess this year they look for people who have both good grades + good experience.
I wish I am wrong :)
Posted Feb 04, 2010 13:10
hmm... well, i tend to think a lot also depends on one's personal statement. I guess more so with HLS.
Did you mention that you already have an LLM? I read on some website that they do not usually admit applicants who already have an LLM.
Good luck, anyway!
Did you mention that you already have an LLM? I read on some website that they do not usually admit applicants who already have an LLM.
Good luck, anyway!
Posted Feb 04, 2010 13:35
nope I don't have any an llm.
But I know people with LLm who are accepted to HLS and CLS...
Anyway, I feel like I bought a lottery ticket and waiting for the results...
We will just wait and see... I hope everything works out for you and you get into HLS and/or CLS..
Cheers....
But I know people with LLm who are accepted to HLS and CLS...
Anyway, I feel like I bought a lottery ticket and waiting for the results...
We will just wait and see... I hope everything works out for you and you get into HLS and/or CLS..
Cheers....
Posted Feb 04, 2010 13:42
all the best to you too! which country do you come from?
Posted Feb 04, 2010 14:52
HLS will not admit a candidate to the LLM program who already holds an LLM. It is perceived as duplicative and will likely guarantee non-admission. Of course there are extenuating circumstances, so it's not 100% guaranteed you will not be admitted. But the changes of rejection are extremely high.
Posted Feb 04, 2010 14:57
Same here... LSAC evaluated me as above average (my transcript says 2.6/4.00 or 78%)
I have six years of work experience (exclusing summer interships) in the top law in my country, which is known by these universities (due to participation to job fairs).
Few publications.
Secured a adjunct teaching position after LLM. Good rec. letter etc.
But guees what?
CLS rejected me in the early review. So I feel hopeless now about HLS and NYU.
I don't want to disappoint you but I guess this year they look for people who have both good grades + good experience.
I wish I am wrong :)
Yes, I've been told that they have a record amount of applications this year...that's why I also went safe in applying to 2 top 30 unis and not only to top 10.
I also think that with my grades CLS will reject me, because they have better candidates...NYU is my hope, UCLA should work...and BU and Fordham are my "safe harbors"
I have six years of work experience (exclusing summer interships) in the top law in my country, which is known by these universities (due to participation to job fairs).
Few publications.
Secured a adjunct teaching position after LLM. Good rec. letter etc.
But guees what?
CLS rejected me in the early review. So I feel hopeless now about HLS and NYU.
I don't want to disappoint you but I guess this year they look for people who have both good grades + good experience.
I wish I am wrong :)
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Yes, I've been told that they have a record amount of applications this year...that's why I also went safe in applying to 2 top 30 unis and not only to top 10.
I also think that with my grades CLS will reject me, because they have better candidates...NYU is my hope, UCLA should work...and BU and Fordham are my "safe harbors"
Posted Feb 04, 2010 15:13
Hi just to correct supranote, you will NOT be rejected from the US law schools solely on the grounds that you already hold an LLM, I know many many Europeans admitted each year to the top 5 schools who all already have LLMs . The only way you will NOT be admitted on these grounds (as stated in most of the graduate admissions criteria) is if you already have an LLM gained in a US institution. In fact it is extremely common for Europeans to hold multiple LLMs (one European and one US) especially if you are thinking of embarking on the academic route...
Posted Feb 04, 2010 16:38
Hi just to correct supranote, you will NOT be rejected from the US law schools solely on the grounds that you already hold an LLM, I know many many Europeans admitted each year to the top 5 schools who all already have LLMs . The only way you will NOT be admitted on these grounds (as stated in most of the graduate admissions criteria) is if you already have an LLM gained in a US institution. In fact it is extremely common for Europeans to hold multiple LLMs (one European and one US) especially if you are thinking of embarking on the academic route...
Hopeful3,
My comment was limited to HLS based upon prior inquiry. I cannot speak to non-American LLM recipients who are seeking an American LLM, but American LLM recipients who are seeking another American LLM (even if in separate areas) will have a tough time seeking admission.
Hopeful3,
My comment was limited to HLS based upon prior inquiry. I cannot speak to non-American LLM recipients who are seeking an American LLM, but American LLM recipients who are seeking another American LLM (even if in separate areas) will have a tough time seeking admission.
Posted Feb 04, 2010 18:17
ok fair enough if your statement is limited to those particular applicants applying for an LLM who already hold a US LLM (which would not be many I am guessing). However, in the case of most other foreign applicants who make up the bulk of the US LLM programmes, the fact that such applicants already hold an LLM from their home countries is not something which I belive, would be viewed unfavourably with the admissions committees of US LLM's.
Posted Feb 05, 2010 15:04
I spoke with the lady at graduate admissions at CLS last night. She said grades were "monumentally important"... now that is something to chew on. I should have kept a safety net. but i'm still keeping my fingers crossed.
Posted Feb 05, 2010 15:32
Was that Sylvia Polo?
What does she mean by "monumentally" important? I mean they do not state that only summa cum laudes will be accepted. The just want an honor status, which is a cum laude at my university...
What does she mean by "monumentally" important? I mean they do not state that only summa cum laudes will be accepted. The just want an honor status, which is a cum laude at my university...
Posted Feb 05, 2010 15:46
I asked her about how they would differentiate between grading systems of different universities, especially in cases like India, where grading and examination systems at different universities differ drastically. She said they have been doing it for over 30 years and they understand how most Indian universities grade their students...
I am still keeping my fingers crossed. I hope personal statements are also "monumentally important" :-)
I am still keeping my fingers crossed. I hope personal statements are also "monumentally important" :-)
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