Harvard 2020-2021



I personally prefer to just wait for updates. Just a suggestion that if someone wants to know the updates before long, please feel free to email them.

"Can someone pls email her? I don't believe we should wait too long since deferral decisions were already delivered."

You personally prefer to wait but are urging someone else to email her? Intriguing.

<div>[quote]</div><div><br></div><div>I personally prefer to just wait for updates. Just a suggestion that if someone wants to know the updates before long, please feel free to email them.</div><div> [/quote]</div><div><br></div><div>"Can someone pls email her? I don't believe we should wait too long since deferral decisions were already delivered." <br></div><div><br></div><div>You personally prefer to wait but are urging someone else to email her? Intriguing.<br></div>
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bbcool


I personally prefer to just wait for updates. Just a suggestion that if someone wants to know the updates before long, please feel free to email them.

"Can someone pls email her? I don't believe we should wait too long since deferral decisions were already delivered."

You personally prefer to wait but are urging someone else to email her? Intriguing.


Don't get me wrong please. I don't think anyone here can be 'urged' by any other one to do anything. Again, it's just a reminder that if someone can't wait long to hear from the admissions, a good choice is to directly email them. Apologies if my tone made you misunderstood. Thanks.

[quote]<div>[quote]</div><div><br></div><div>I personally prefer to just wait for updates. Just a suggestion that if someone wants to know the updates before long, please feel free to email them.</div><div> [/quote]</div><div><br></div><div>"Can someone pls email her? I don't believe we should wait too long since deferral decisions were already delivered." <br></div><div><br></div><div>You personally prefer to wait but are urging someone else to email her? Intriguing.<br></div><p> [/quote]</p><p><br></p><p>Don't get me wrong please. I don't think anyone here can be 'urged' by any other one to do anything. Again, it's just a reminder that if someone can't wait long&nbsp;to hear from the admissions, a good choice is to directly email them. Apologies if my tone made you misunderstood. Thanks.</p>
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watermoron

Hey guys,



FYI, HLS officially announced yesterday
that the upcoming fall semester would be online and it would offer an
additional deferral option to the current admitted students (June 15 through
19).



https://today.law.harvard.edu/harvard-law-school-expects-robust-high-quality-online-program-for-the-fall-2020/

In fact, more than a half of the current
admitted students have already decided to defer their enrollment as of the end
of May, which was even before that official announcement. Obviously, a
substantial amount of the current admitted students who had not exercised their
deferral rights upon the initial period are likely to exercise their rights
this time.



I have absolutely no idea as to how many
people are waitlisted for 2020-2021. However, it would be a reasonable guess
that the number should be smaller than a half of the current admitted students,
in light of the fact that HLS has never made any waitlist offers in recent
years and that HLS did not precisely foresee the devastating impact of the
coronavirus outbreak in the US when it determined the size of waitlist pool in
early March (because of this, HBS, another most popular grad school was failed
to maintain its original enrollment plan and suffer from more than 200 students
short).



https://poetsandquants.com/2020/06/02/harvard-business-schools-next-mba-class-will-be-more-than-200-students-short/

Based on the foregoing, I personally expect
that HLS will make waitlist offers to all of the waitlist nominees (or at least
"almost all", in light of the appropriate balance of the ethnic and background
diversity) maybe sometime after June 19, the deadline for the additional deferral
request (this timing would be stressful but let's hang on there). This expectation might be too optimistic, but I believe that the issue we have to
discuss here may be whether we should accept the non-deferrable offer, pay $65,000
tuition and take online courses with distant classmates (and possibly, in the absence
of any in-person social events held by the school during the entire semester...).
Although I am inclined to accept the offer for some reason, but it would be far
from the full-on HLS experience that we originally expected and dreamed. Anyway, let's wait and see until the deadline.

<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">Hey guys,</span></p>

<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">FYI, HLS officially announced yesterday
that the upcoming fall semester would be online and it would offer an
additional deferral option to the current admitted students (June 15 through
19). <o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US"><a href="https://today.law.harvard.edu/harvard-law-school-expects-robust-high-quality-online-program-for-the-fall-2020/">https://today.law.harvard.edu/harvard-law-school-expects-robust-high-quality-online-program-for-the-fall-2020/</a></span></p><p class="MsoPlainText">In fact, more than a half of the current
admitted students have already decided to defer their enrollment as of the end
of May, which was even before that official announcement. Obviously, a
substantial amount of the current admitted students who had not exercised their
deferral rights upon the initial period are likely to exercise their rights
this time.</p>

<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">I have absolutely no idea as to how many
people are waitlisted for 2020-2021. However, it would be a reasonable guess
that the number should be smaller than a half of the current admitted students,
in light of the fact that HLS has never made any waitlist offers in recent
years and that HLS did not precisely foresee the devastating impact of the
coronavirus outbreak in the US when it determined the size of waitlist pool in
early March (because of this, HBS, another most popular grad school was failed
to maintain its original enrollment plan and suffer from more than 200 students
short).<o:p></o:p></span></p>

<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US"><a href="https://poetsandquants.com/2020/06/02/harvard-business-schools-next-mba-class-will-be-more-than-200-students-short/">https://poetsandquants.com/2020/06/02/harvard-business-schools-next-mba-class-will-be-more-than-200-students-short/</a></span></p><p class="MsoPlainText">Based on the foregoing, I personally expect
that HLS will make waitlist offers to all of the waitlist nominees (or at least
"almost all", in light of the appropriate balance of the ethnic and background
diversity) maybe sometime after June 19, the deadline for the additional deferral
request (this timing would be stressful but let's hang on there). This expectation might be too optimistic, but I believe that the issue we have to
discuss here may be whether we should accept the non-deferrable offer, pay $65,000
tuition and take online courses with distant classmates (and possibly, in the absence
of any in-person social events held by the school during the entire semester...).
Although I am inclined to accept the offer for some reason, but it would be far
from the full-on HLS experience that we originally expected and dreamed. Anyway, let's wait and see until the deadline.</p>
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abcd_97

It’s true. I’m a part of the WhatsApp group, half of the admitted students have deferred 

It’s true. I’m a part of the WhatsApp group, half of the admitted students have deferred&nbsp;
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bbcool

Assuming the number of waitlisted applicants is much smaller than the current number of deferred students, no ideas as to why they cannot start making offers to the waitlisted ones.

Assuming the number of waitlisted applicants is much smaller than the current number of deferred students, no ideas as to why they cannot start making offers to the waitlisted ones.
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abcd_97

Yeah, exactly. That’s what I’ve been thinking as well. And they haven’t even updated us over the expected date of decisions either. Hoping for the best for all waitlisted students! 

Yeah, exactly. That’s what I’ve been thinking as well. And they haven’t even updated us over the expected date of decisions either. Hoping for the best for all waitlisted students!&nbsp;
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watermoron

Maybe we can create WhatsApp group for waitlisted students. If anyone is interested in joining, please send DM to me. Thanks.

Maybe we can create WhatsApp group for waitlisted students. If anyone is interested in joining, please send DM to me. Thanks.
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abcd_97

Maybe we can create WhatsApp group for waitlisted students. If anyone is interested in joining, please send DM to me. Thanks.



yeah that’s a great idea! Please send me the link to the WhatsApp group! 

[quote]Maybe we can create WhatsApp group for waitlisted students. If anyone is interested in joining, please send DM to me. Thanks. [/quote]<br><br><br>yeah that’s a great idea! Please send me the link to the WhatsApp group!&nbsp;
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watermoron

I sent you the link!

I sent you the link!
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Hey guys,





FYI, HLS officially announced yesterday

that the upcoming fall semester would be online and it would offer an

additional deferral option to the current admitted students (June 15 through

19).





https://today.law.harvard.edu/harvard-law-school-expects-robust-high-quality-online-program-for-the-fall-2020/

In fact, more than a half of the current

admitted students have already decided to defer their enrollment as of the end

of May, which was even before that official announcement. Obviously, a

substantial amount of the current admitted students who had not exercised their

deferral rights upon the initial period are likely to exercise their rights

this time.





I have absolutely no idea as to how many

people are waitlisted for 2020-2021. However, it would be a reasonable guess

that the number should be smaller than a half of the current admitted students,

in light of the fact that HLS has never made any waitlist offers in recent

years and that HLS did not precisely foresee the devastating impact of the

coronavirus outbreak in the US when it determined the size of waitlist pool in

early March (because of this, HBS, another most popular grad school was failed

to maintain its original enrollment plan and suffer from more than 200 students

short).





https://poetsandquants.com/2020/06/02/harvard-business-schools-next-mba-class-will-be-more-than-200-students-short/

Based on the foregoing, I personally expect

that HLS will make waitlist offers to all of the waitlist nominees (or at least

"almost all", in light of the appropriate balance of the ethnic and background

diversity) maybe sometime after June 19, the deadline for the additional deferral

request (this timing would be stressful but let's hang on there). This expectation might be too optimistic, but I believe that the issue we have to

discuss here may be whether we should accept the non-deferrable offer, pay $65,000

tuition and take online courses with distant classmates (and possibly, in the absence

of any in-person social events held by the school during the entire semester...).

Although I am inclined to accept the offer for some reason, but it would be far

from the full-on HLS experience that we originally expected and dreamed. Anyway, let's wait and see until the deadline.



I really hope you're right, but part of that HBS article makes me less optimistic.  As someone noted on the GMAT club forum:

"Bad news, looks like Harvard is not going to pull many people off their waitlist. Over 200 students deferred but instead of pulling many off their waitlist they are going with a smaller class. They estimate only pulling 20 ppl. So I don’t think there is going to be as big of a ripple on waitlist as originally expected. "

I would have thought they would fill as many seats as possible from wait-listed candidates, but I guess that's why I'm not an admissions officer.

By the way, could I get a link to the WhatsApp group as well?

[Edited by WaitlistPurgatory on Jun 12, 2020]

[quote]<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">Hey guys,</span></p><br>
<br>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">FYI, HLS officially announced yesterday<br>
that the upcoming fall semester would be online and it would offer an<br>
additional deferral option to the current admitted students (June 15 through<br>
19). <o:p></o:p></span></p><br>
<br>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US"><a href="https://today.law.harvard.edu/harvard-law-school-expects-robust-high-quality-online-program-for-the-fall-2020/">https://today.law.harvard.edu/harvard-law-school-expects-robust-high-quality-online-program-for-the-fall-2020/</a></span></p><p class="MsoPlainText">In fact, more than a half of the current<br>
admitted students have already decided to defer their enrollment as of the end<br>
of May, which was even before that official announcement. Obviously, a<br>
substantial amount of the current admitted students who had not exercised their<br>
deferral rights upon the initial period are likely to exercise their rights<br>
this time.</p><br>
<br>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US">I have absolutely no idea as to how many<br>
people are waitlisted for 2020-2021. However, it would be a reasonable guess<br>
that the number should be smaller than a half of the current admitted students,<br>
in light of the fact that HLS has never made any waitlist offers in recent<br>
years and that HLS did not precisely foresee the devastating impact of the<br>
coronavirus outbreak in the US when it determined the size of waitlist pool in<br>
early March (because of this, HBS, another most popular grad school was failed<br>
to maintain its original enrollment plan and suffer from more than 200 students<br>
short).<o:p></o:p></span></p><br>
<br>
<p class="MsoPlainText"><span lang="EN-US"><a href="https://poetsandquants.com/2020/06/02/harvard-business-schools-next-mba-class-will-be-more-than-200-students-short/">https://poetsandquants.com/2020/06/02/harvard-business-schools-next-mba-class-will-be-more-than-200-students-short/</a></span></p><p class="MsoPlainText">Based on the foregoing, I personally expect<br>
that HLS will make waitlist offers to all of the waitlist nominees (or at least<br>
"almost all", in light of the appropriate balance of the ethnic and background<br>
diversity) maybe sometime after June 19, the deadline for the additional deferral<br>
request (this timing would be stressful but let's hang on there). This expectation might be too optimistic, but I believe that the issue we have to<br>
discuss here may be whether we should accept the non-deferrable offer, pay $65,000<br>
tuition and take online courses with distant classmates (and possibly, in the absence<br>
of any in-person social events held by the school during the entire semester...).<br>
Although I am inclined to accept the offer for some reason, but it would be far<br>
from the full-on HLS experience that we originally expected and dreamed. Anyway, let's wait and see until the deadline.</p> [/quote]<br><br>I really hope you're right, but part of that HBS article makes me less optimistic.&nbsp; As someone noted on the GMAT club forum:<br><br><span style="color: rgb(42, 42, 42); font-family: Tahoma, Geneva, sans-serif; background-color: rgb(245, 245, 235);">"Bad news, looks like Harvard is not going to pull many people off their waitlist. Over 200 students deferred but instead of pulling many off their waitlist they are going with a smaller class. They estimate only pulling 20 ppl. So I don’t think there is going to be as big of a ripple on waitlist as originally expected. "</span><br><br>I would have thought they would fill as many seats as possible from wait-listed candidates, but I guess that's why I'm not an admissions officer.<br><br>By the way, could I get a link to the WhatsApp group as well?
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Greentrea

Please send me the link to the WhatsApp group too :)

Please send me the link to the WhatsApp group too :)
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Ipek

please send me the link too

please send me the link too
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On the other hand, since the MBA program is 2 years, taking in a full-size class would put more strain on them to avoid overcrowding in the following year when deferred applicants begin and students taking a gap-year return.  

Fortunately, this isn't really the case for the LLM program.  They will need to deal with the overcrowding issue as well, but limiting this year's class won't do anything to fix that.  I'm reluctant to get my hopes up, but I can't really think of a good reason why they would choose to leave spots empty.  

On the other hand, since the MBA program is 2 years, taking in a full-size class would put more strain on them to avoid overcrowding in the following year when deferred applicants begin and students taking a gap-year return.&nbsp;&nbsp;<br><br>Fortunately, this isn't really the case for the LLM program.&nbsp; They will need to deal with the overcrowding issue as well, but limiting this year's class won't do anything to fix that.&nbsp; I'm reluctant to get my hopes up, but I can't really think of a good reason why they would choose to leave spots empty.&nbsp;&nbsp;
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Can anyone send me the link of the WhatsApp group for waitlist students? Thanks! 1f642

Can anyone send me the link of the WhatsApp group for waitlist students? Thanks!&nbsp;:slightly-smiling-face:
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abcd_97

Can anyone send me the link of the WhatsApp group for waitlist students? Thanks! 1f642



i think that group has ended since waitlist decisions have been released 

[quote]Can anyone send me the link of the WhatsApp group for waitlist students? Thanks!&nbsp;:slightly-smiling-face: [/quote]<br><br><br>i think that group has ended since waitlist decisions have been released&nbsp;
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Has any waitlist student received the admission decision? 

Has any waitlist student received the admission decision?&nbsp;
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apfel129

Any German applicants that were admitted or waitlisted? I'd be grateful if you could PM me!

Any German applicants that were admitted or waitlisted? I'd be grateful if you could PM me!
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