CLS - Reject, Waitlist, Admit?


europa

Has anyone received a decision from CLS recently? This is getting crazy!!! The wait better be worth it!!!

Has anyone received a decision from CLS recently? This is getting crazy!!! The wait better be worth it!!!
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MAP2009

....... nada....nichts...nothing....niente...rien.... ничто́....nic....

....... nada....nichts...nothing....niente...rien.... ничто́....nic....
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pelon

Same here!
Let's keep this moving... it is good therapy.

Same here!
Let's keep this moving... it is good therapy.
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same here.....no words....but they say the process lasts unil mid april...it s endless.....

same here.....no words....but they say the process lasts unil mid april...it s endless.....
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Saribuey

Tomorrow is April! Can't wait any longer.... these bastards!!!!! I guess I should be gratefull that I have not been rejected... yet!

Tomorrow is April! Can't wait any longer.... these bastards!!!!! I guess I should be gratefull that I have not been rejected... yet!
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Jus1997

is it still "no news is good news"?

is it still "no news is good news"?
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airforce1

Oh, my god...........I can't believe it......I just received the admission letter from my dream school few hours ago.....

Should I give up berkeley even I have paid the 500 deposit? probably yes?......as to the tuition and living expense? probably no?.......It's really difficult to make a decision!!!

Oh, my god...........I can't believe it......I just received the admission letter from my dream school few hours ago.....

Should I give up berkeley even I have paid the 500 deposit? probably yes?......as to the tuition and living expense? probably no?.......It's really difficult to make a decision!!!
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jingo

airforce1, congrats. how much does berkeley cost versus columbia? $45,000 vs. $70,000? in terms of job prospects, berkeley and columbia are probably quite similar, although the west coast job market may be a bit better than the east coast job market right now. but consider the fact that both markets are basically not hiring right now...

airforce1, congrats. how much does berkeley cost versus columbia? $45,000 vs. $70,000? in terms of job prospects, berkeley and columbia are probably quite similar, although the west coast job market may be a bit better than the east coast job market right now. but consider the fact that both markets are basically not hiring right now...
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pelon

Hi Airforce! Congratulations!!!!
For sure they are sending now the remaining admission offers. I have a question: did you get a letter or an email?

Thanks in advance

Hi Airforce! Congratulations!!!!
For sure they are sending now the remaining admission offers. I have a question: did you get a letter or an email?

Thanks in advance
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airforce1

airforce1, congrats. how much does berkeley cost versus columbia? $45,000 vs. $70,000? in terms of job prospects, berkeley and columbia are probably quite similar, although the west coast job market may be a bit better than the east coast job market right now. but consider the fact that both markets are basically not hiring right now...


Hi Jingo, your viewpoint is quite right regarding this job marketing issue. However, I don't have a plan to work in the U.S. since I will be back to my country and continuing my judiciary career after earning my LL.M. degree. So considering factors such as living expense( in fact, my wife and kid will probably go with me), academic quility, and overall reputation or ranking, it's really hard for me to choose between these two great law schools.......

<blockquote>airforce1, congrats. how much does berkeley cost versus columbia? $45,000 vs. $70,000? in terms of job prospects, berkeley and columbia are probably quite similar, although the west coast job market may be a bit better than the east coast job market right now. but consider the fact that both markets are basically not hiring right now...</blockquote>

Hi Jingo, your viewpoint is quite right regarding this job marketing issue. However, I don't have a plan to work in the U.S. since I will be back to my country and continuing my judiciary career after earning my LL.M. degree. So considering factors such as living expense( in fact, my wife and kid will probably go with me), academic quility, and overall reputation or ranking, it's really hard for me to choose between these two great law schools.......
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airforce1

Hi Airforce! Congratulations!!!!
For sure they are sending now the remaining admission offers. I have a question: did you get a letter or an email?

Thanks in advance


Hi Pelon, it's an email......

<blockquote>Hi Airforce! Congratulations!!!!
For sure they are sending now the remaining admission offers. I have a question: did you get a letter or an email?

Thanks in advance</blockquote>

Hi Pelon, it's an email......

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jingo

in terms of living expenses, berkeley would be much much cheaper. everything in new york is notoriously expensive from food to housing to transportation...

i am not too familiar with the berkeley area, but have heard that the housing situation is plentiful and affordable. either school is great, but if cost is a consideration for your family, you can probably save a huge amount of money by going to berkeley and get the same quality education.

in terms of living expenses, berkeley would be much much cheaper. everything in new york is notoriously expensive from food to housing to transportation...

i am not too familiar with the berkeley area, but have heard that the housing situation is plentiful and affordable. either school is great, but if cost is a consideration for your family, you can probably save a huge amount of money by going to berkeley and get the same quality education.
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Pitch

Airforce, the Cal job market is the worst at the moment in the U.S., even J.D. are struggling to find a place there.

Don't listen to false advice, choose Columbia, without any doubt!

Airforce, the Cal job market is the worst at the moment in the U.S., even J.D. are struggling to find a place there.

Don't listen to false advice, choose Columbia, without any doubt!
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Comandante

@ AIRFORCE 1

I got accepted to Berkeley, paid the $500 already but i am considering not going if i don't get a deferral. I don't want to be in a financial conundrum because of the $$$$ this will cost and the possibility of not having a job when i return home in a year's time (let not even talk about US job market at the moment!!!).

It seems to me that a primary motivation for you to do the LL.M is to try to get a job in the US, my comments below are based on that assumption.

As to the living expenses, the FACT is that both Berkeley and NY are comparable; the SF BAY AREA is one of the most expensive rental markets in the US; whoever tells you different have not done their research nor been to either place. My point is that the livings expenses diferential between Berkeley and Columbia are de minimis.

If you are interested in jobs in the US, you will have a better chance of landing one at Columbia. The California legal market sucks!!

On the other hand, Columbia is Ivy League and hence the name resonates better in law firms than does Berkeley. Columbia is also better ranked as a law school than Berkeley.

Unless you have specific reasons to attend Berkeley (want to study IP, want to live in the Bay Area, etc.), Columbia is by far a better choice.

Berkeley is a great school, but it will not get you a job in the US period. If you go to the websites of the major law firms you will find the bulk (OF THE FEW) foreing-trained US-LL.M holders are from Columbia; i have NEVER seen one from Berkeley. That is just the reality.

@ AIRFORCE 1

I got accepted to Berkeley, paid the $500 already but i am considering not going if i don't get a deferral. I don't want to be in a financial conundrum because of the $$$$ this will cost and the possibility of not having a job when i return home in a year's time (let not even talk about US job market at the moment!!!).

It seems to me that a primary motivation for you to do the LL.M is to try to get a job in the US, my comments below are based on that assumption.

As to the living expenses, the FACT is that both Berkeley and NY are comparable; the SF BAY AREA is one of the most expensive rental markets in the US; whoever tells you different have not done their research nor been to either place. My point is that the livings expenses diferential between Berkeley and Columbia are de minimis.

If you are interested in jobs in the US, you will have a better chance of landing one at Columbia. The California legal market sucks!!

On the other hand, Columbia is Ivy League and hence the name resonates better in law firms than does Berkeley. Columbia is also better ranked as a law school than Berkeley.

Unless you have specific reasons to attend Berkeley (want to study IP, want to live in the Bay Area, etc.), Columbia is by far a better choice.

Berkeley is a great school, but it will not get you a job in the US period. If you go to the websites of the major law firms you will find the bulk (OF THE FEW) foreing-trained US-LL.M holders are from Columbia; i have NEVER seen one from Berkeley. That is just the reality.
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cingas

airforce, if you are interested in the judiciary, berkeley is probably a better school than columbia. cls is great for its big firm placement in new york, but it doesn't sound like you interested in that. berkeley is the only school in the country with a specialized jurisprudence and social policy program, which sounds like something that might match with your judicial career. although it's a phd program, i am sure you will have access to the same outstanding faculty on your llm.

http://www.law.berkeley.edu/160.htm

UC Berkeley Law Schools Jurisprudence and Social Policy (JSP) Program offers a unique interdisciplinary graduate program leading to Ph.D. degrees for students interested in:

* the scholarly study of legal ideas and institutions from the standpoint of one or more of the basic disciplines, e.g., history, economics, philosophy, sociology or political science;
* policy analysis and applied research on law-related issues in such fields as criminal justice, poverty and discrimination, human rights, urban planning, and environmental protection;
* preparation for teaching legal studies in graduate and undergraduate curriculums;
* interdisciplinary preparation for teaching law.

airforce, if you are interested in the judiciary, berkeley is probably a better school than columbia. cls is great for its big firm placement in new york, but it doesn't sound like you interested in that. berkeley is the only school in the country with a specialized jurisprudence and social policy program, which sounds like something that might match with your judicial career. although it's a phd program, i am sure you will have access to the same outstanding faculty on your llm.

http://www.law.berkeley.edu/160.htm

UC Berkeley Law School’s Jurisprudence and Social Policy (JSP) Program offers a unique interdisciplinary graduate program leading to Ph.D. degrees for students interested in:

* the scholarly study of legal ideas and institutions from the standpoint of one or more of the basic disciplines, e.g., history, economics, philosophy, sociology or political science;
* policy analysis and applied research on law-related issues in such fields as criminal justice, poverty and discrimination, human rights, urban planning, and environmental protection;
* preparation for teaching legal studies in graduate and undergraduate curriculums;
* interdisciplinary preparation for teaching law.
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1628

ANYBODY GOT ANY NEWS FROM COLUMBIA????????????????????????????

ANYBODY GOT ANY NEWS FROM COLUMBIA????????????????????????????
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Jus1997

1628...still no news here...

it seems like we're the only ones left huh? everyone else seems to be ONLY talking about which university to choose. i'm starting to think that there's just nothing more to hope for. it seems that they've sent the acceptance emails yesterday and today. :(

1628...still no news here...

it seems like we're the only ones left huh? everyone else seems to be ONLY talking about which university to choose. i'm starting to think that there's just nothing more to hope for. it seems that they've sent the acceptance emails yesterday and today. :(
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Asahi

I am also waiting for a final decision. Did they send acceptances yesterday and today? Haven't seen anything like that in this blog lately...

I am also waiting for a final decision. Did they send acceptances yesterday and today? Haven't seen anything like that in this blog lately...
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1628

hey jus97. do not say that. there is still hope. there is always hope. i firmly believe. they will send admissions

hey jus97. do not say that. there is still hope. there is always hope. i firmly believe. they will send admissions
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Jus1997

thanks 1628...

and asahi...i think i read that airforce1 got accepted yesterday (or maybe 2 days ago) and i read another thread starter this morning saying that someone also got an acceptance email today (i think). i usually only skim through the posts so im not really sure of the day when they got the emails. anyway, i really hope there's still a chance of getting in. good luck to us...

thanks 1628...

and asahi...i think i read that airforce1 got accepted yesterday (or maybe 2 days ago) and i read another thread starter this morning saying that someone also got an acceptance email today (i think). i usually only skim through the posts so im not really sure of the day when they got the emails. anyway, i really hope there's still a chance of getting in. good luck to us...
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