Anybody has heard anything from UChicago?


Any news?

Any news?
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TwelfthMon...

Nope.

Nope.
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Gregor2009

offers will be sent in early Feb so I think we need to give it another week or so!

good luck! Any idea how many places for how many applicants though?


Cheers,
G

offers will be sent in early Feb so I think we need to give it another week or so!

good luck! Any idea how many places for how many applicants though?


Cheers,
G
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TwelfthMon...

According to their website: roughly 750 applications with an entering class of 50 students.

According to their website: roughly 750 applications with an entering class of 50 students.
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Gregor2009

i read that there is limited financial aid as well.....

not sure why i applied there because i only applied to schools which were more generous in terms of financial aid. hopefully, I get a place, and above average financial aid :(

i read that there is limited financial aid as well.....

not sure why i applied there because i only applied to schools which were more generous in terms of financial aid. hopefully, I get a place, and above average financial aid :(
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750/50 is quite competitive......GOD bless us

750/50 is quite competitive......GOD bless us
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waiting》。。。。。。。。。。。。

waiting》。。。。。。。。。。。。
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Gregor2009

dont think 1 day is going to change anything!! especially it isnt even feb yet

dont think 1 day is going to change anything!! especially it isnt even feb yet
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App2009

No news too....

No news too....
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crimlawyer

I have received this very nice and considerate message from UChicago.

"Dear LL.M. Candidate,



We are sending this message to all of you who have submitted your applications for our 2009-2010 LL.M. Program. We know that this is a period when many of you are anxious to get decisions on your applications to Chicago and the other schools to which you may have applied. Perhaps some information from us will help to lessen your anxiety and uncertainty, if not your curiosity!



Our applicant pool this year is about 4% larger than last year not a significant change. Eighty-nine % of our applications are now complete and the Graduate Studies Committee has reviewed almost all the completed applications. We hope to finish the rest of those reviews by the end of next week. Our general impression is that the overall quality of our applications this year is the strongest we have seen in recent years. We are calling this the Barak Obama effect he was our colleague on the faculty for 12 years but this is obviously speculation without much evidence. In any case, a stronger applicant pool has made it harder for us to select those to admit.



We expect to start sending decisions next week. All decisions will be individual email messages sent by me. As a result, it will take a while for all of you who have completed applications to receive your messages. In the past this had led to lots of questions on message boards about why others have heard and I have not? Please bear with us during this process. There will be three types of messages: admission, the standby group (waiting list), and deny. I will start with the applications which were completed first back in late October and then move in chronological order by weeks based on the date of completion.



Candidates who are offered admission will be given an initial response deadline of April 15. We do not ask for a money deposit but we do ask candidates to give detailed, honest descriptions of their situations. We have found this system to be more useful. It will be fully described with our offer of admission. Applicants offered places in the standby group will be asked to let me know whether they wish to receive further consideration by our Graduate Studies Committee.



I hope this message is helpful to you.



Best regards,



Richard Badger

Assistant Dean

University of Chicago Law School"

I have received this very nice and considerate message from UChicago.

"Dear LL.M. Candidate,



We are sending this message to all of you who have submitted your applications for our 2009-2010 LL.M. Program. We know that this is a period when many of you are anxious to get decisions on your applications to Chicago and the other schools to which you may have applied. Perhaps some information from us will help to lessen your anxiety and uncertainty, if not your curiosity!



Our applicant pool this year is about 4% larger than last year – not a significant change. Eighty-nine % of our applications are now complete and the Graduate Studies Committee has reviewed almost all the completed applications. We hope to finish the rest of those reviews by the end of next week. Our general impression is that the overall quality of our applications this year is the strongest we have seen in recent years. We are calling this the Barak Obama effect – he was our colleague on the faculty for 12 years – but this is obviously speculation without much evidence. In any case, a stronger applicant pool has made it harder for us to select those to admit.



We expect to start sending decisions next week. All decisions will be individual email messages sent by me. As a result, it will take a while for all of you who have completed applications to receive your messages. In the past this had led to lots of questions on message boards about why “others have heard and I have not?” Please bear with us during this process. There will be three types of messages: admission, the standby group (waiting list), and deny. I will start with the applications which were completed first – back in late October – and then move in chronological order by weeks based on the date of completion.



Candidates who are offered admission will be given an initial response deadline of April 15. We do not ask for a money deposit but we do ask candidates to give detailed, honest descriptions of their situations. We have found this system to be more useful. It will be fully described with our offer of admission. Applicants offered places in the standby group will be asked to let me know whether they wish to receive further consideration by our Graduate Studies Committee.



I hope this message is helpful to you.



Best regards,



Richard Badger

Assistant Dean

University of Chicago Law School"
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James79

So do I! Very nice initiative from UChicago!!

So do I! Very nice initiative from UChicago!!
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Gregor2009

When did you guys complete your application? Mine was in late November - I am guessing there wouldn't be many people who completed in late October but I might be mistaken.

If everything goes well, I hope to get a decision in a week or so. This would provide me with a feel as to which universities I have applied to would accept/reject me.

When did you guys complete your application? Mine was in late November - I am guessing there wouldn't be many people who completed in late October but I might be mistaken.

If everything goes well, I hope to get a decision in a week or so. This would provide me with a feel as to which universities I have applied to would accept/reject me.
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James79

I have two completion messages: Nov 14 and Dec 12. I suppose this is because of my third recommendation that was sent directly by the recommender...

I have two completion messages: Nov 14 and Dec 12. I suppose this is because of my third recommendation that was sent directly by the recommender...
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Nail

I also received this message, like every other applicant.

Let aside the fact it did not achieve the objective it was intended to achieve, i.e. lessen my anxiety or uncertainty (quite the contrary, indeed, from knowing that this year they have received the strongest applications ever...) , I am really puzzled right know about how their admission process works.

In fact, I am amongst those 11% that have not completed the application yet, since one of my letters of recommendation is still missing (and hopefully will reach the office in the next days), and I feel even more uncertain as to the chances I have lost/ I still have.

But let me start with a preliminary question: how is it possible that offers will be sent out starting next week, if the admission office only has reviewed some of the completed application and "hopes to finish the rest of reviews by the end of the week? Does this mean they admitt depending on meeting a certain standard, and do not consider potentially stronger applications which they have not reviewed yet?
Second, they say that for sending out offers they will start from the applications which were first completed...does that mean they have a quota per each group of applications (for example, 10 candidates from the group of those who completed the application before november 10th, 10 from the group of those who completed the application between november 10th and 20th, and so forth...)?

Finally, and related to the other two questions, what chances would you estimate for those who are going to complete the application by the end of next week, or even the following one?

In other words, can please someone explain how this admission process works? That'd be really helpful!
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Nail

I also received this message, like every other applicant.

Let aside the fact it did not achieve the objective it was intended to achieve, i.e. lessen my anxiety or uncertainty (quite the contrary, indeed, from knowing that this year they have received the strongest applications ever...) , I am really puzzled right know about how their admission process works.

In fact, I am amongst those 11% that have not completed the application yet, since one of my letters of recommendation is still missing (and hopefully will reach the office in the next days), and I feel even more uncertain as to the chances I have lost/ I still have.

But let me start with a preliminary question: how is it possible that offers will be sent out starting next week, if the admission office only has reviewed some of the completed application and "hopes to finish the rest of reviews by the end of the week? Does this mean they admitt depending on meeting a certain standard, and do not consider potentially stronger applications which they have not reviewed yet?
Second, they say that for sending out offers they will start from the applications which were first completed...does that mean they have a quota per each group of applications (for example, 10 candidates from the group of those who completed the application before november 10th, 10 from the group of those who completed the application between november 10th and 20th, and so forth...)?

Finally, and related to the other two questions, what chances would you estimate for those who are going to complete the application by the end of next week, or even the following one?

In other words, can please someone explain how this admission process works? That'd be really helpful!
Thanks
Nail
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James79

Nail, I am guessing here, but I think UChicago has a rolling basis process. I recall something from its site stating something like, the sooner, the better. However, everybody has chances! Spots shall be opened later (April maybe, not so good for our anxiety...) considering that people shall withdraw, once they received offers from other Universities.

Nail, I am guessing here, but I think UChicago has a rolling basis process. I recall something from its site stating something like, the sooner, the better. However, everybody has chances! Spots shall be opened later (April maybe, not so good for our anxiety...) considering that people shall withdraw, once they received offers from other Universities.
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crimlawyer

In my opinion this is as kind and considerate it could get. It basically means you will hear from them, in order of completion, in the next three weeks or so.

Let there be an admission notice for me!

In my opinion this is as kind and considerate it could get. It basically means you will hear from them, in order of completion, in the next three weeks or so.

Let there be an admission notice for me!
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Gregor2009

Yes Chicago works on a rolling basis so they would consider applications in the order they are received. In my opinion, this may be disadvantageous for applicants with borderline crendentials who submit late because slots would be taken up. However, with that said, some borderline applicants who submit early have an advantage as well. If your credentials are stellar i would think Chicago would have a place for you. Even if you are placed on the waitlist initially, I am sure they would rank you first in line when someone rejects their offer so don't worry about it.

Also, a suggestion, why not get your recommender to scan and e-mail Chicago Law his or her recommendation letter? Make it clear that the original is lost (if they dont already know) and that another will follow in mail shortly. This will allow them to consider your file next week, if accepted!

cheers,
Greg

Yes Chicago works on a rolling basis so they would consider applications in the order they are received. In my opinion, this may be disadvantageous for applicants with borderline crendentials who submit late because slots would be taken up. However, with that said, some borderline applicants who submit early have an advantage as well. If your credentials are stellar i would think Chicago would have a place for you. Even if you are placed on the waitlist initially, I am sure they would rank you first in line when someone rejects their offer so don't worry about it.

Also, a suggestion, why not get your recommender to scan and e-mail Chicago Law his or her recommendation letter? Make it clear that the original is lost (if they dont already know) and that another will follow in mail shortly. This will allow them to consider your file next week, if accepted!

cheers,
Greg
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Gregor2009

In my opinion this is as kind and considerate it could get. It basically means you will hear from them, in order of completion, in the next three weeks or so.

Let there be an admission notice for me!


i hope you will get a place crimlawyer :)

<blockquote>In my opinion this is as kind and considerate it could get. It basically means you will hear from them, in order of completion, in the next three weeks or so.

Let there be an admission notice for me!</blockquote>

i hope you will get a place crimlawyer :)
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Nail

Thanks for the suggestion Gregor, I already asked and this is ok, I will do it on Monday.

But coming back to the rolling basis admission process, I don't understand one basic thing...how do they take into account strong candidates if they have not completed reviews when they start sending out admissions? And supposing there are30 a stellar candidates whose application is complete only next week (they have seen the rest of the application but only some minor documents are missing), will they reserve 30 spots for them?And if they're just 5?

Thanks for the suggestion Gregor, I already asked and this is ok, I will do it on Monday.

But coming back to the rolling basis admission process, I don't understand one basic thing...how do they take into account strong candidates if they have not completed reviews when they start sending out admissions? And supposing there are30 a stellar candidates whose application is complete only next week (they have seen the rest of the application but only some minor documents are missing), will they reserve 30 spots for them?And if they're just 5?
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Gregor2009

hey nail,

i think that is a feature/characteristic of rolling admission. you will get an advantage if you apply early and will be somewhat disadvantaged if your application is completed at the last minute. I am sure Chicago will make extra space for stellar candidates that are completed late - which university wouldn't? Furthermore, the offers they send out tend to be much more than what is accepted anyway! They would probably rank waitlisted students according to their merit - the later ones with better credentials will be in the early part of the queue than those who completed earlier but have poorer credentials.

Does this make sense? this is purely my guess anyway - it sounds logical to me though? lol

cheers,
Greg

hey nail,

i think that is a feature/characteristic of rolling admission. you will get an advantage if you apply early and will be somewhat disadvantaged if your application is completed at the last minute. I am sure Chicago will make extra space for stellar candidates that are completed late - which university wouldn't? Furthermore, the offers they send out tend to be much more than what is accepted anyway! They would probably rank waitlisted students according to their merit - the later ones with better credentials will be in the early part of the queue than those who completed earlier but have poorer credentials.

Does this make sense? this is purely my guess anyway - it sounds logical to me though? lol

cheers,
Greg

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