UK/Netherlands


Zathanel

Hello. As You may see from the subject I have a question: which country is better in case of LLM programmes? I applied for view Unis in UK (recently I received a offer from Nottingham and I'm waiting for the Edinburgh) but I also submitted my application to Netherlands LLM programmes (Tilburg, Groningen, Nijmegen,) and I can't choose which might turn more valuable (start making some money at last and stop parasitize my parents). I'm from EU, continental legal system...

Hello. As You may see from the subject I have a question: which country is better in case of LLM programmes? I applied for view Unis in UK (recently I received a offer from Nottingham and I'm waiting for the Edinburgh) but I also submitted my application to Netherlands LLM programmes (Tilburg, Groningen, Nijmegen,) and I can't choose which might turn more valuable (start making some money at last and stop parasitize my parents). I'm from EU, continental legal system...
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Santa

As a continental lawyer you will want to do an LLM in a Common Law system.

As a continental lawyer you will want to do an LLM in a Common Law system.
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Zathanel

That's the reason I have picked UK as my first choice :).

That's the reason I have picked UK as my first choice :).
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TiGGer

Coming from Germany (Civil law system) I recommend you go to UK. It's not so much getting in touch with a common law jurisdiction (which is very important as well, of course!), but it's about improving your English skills! And for that purpose UK is of course the place to be :-)

Coming from Germany (Civil law system) I recommend you go to UK. It's not so much getting in touch with a common law jurisdiction (which is very important as well, of course!), but it's about improving your English skills! And for that purpose UK is of course the place to be :-)
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Zathanel

That's absolutely true. My first choice was UK because of common law culture, English speaking society and (at least as I see it) British Universities (names, not its standings in some cases) are internationally recognized and appreciated. Since we come from very same system and we see it same way there must be something in it :). Netherlands have some advantages though. Tuition fees are unbelievably low, and living expenses I think would also be more convenient. University's there are extremely focused on EU law and it's much closer. I also have to take into consideration my girlfriend's opinion since we wish to go together. Well, International Commercial Law in Nottingham looks very appealing and who said I can't go to UK and Netherlands year later? I will simply wait for rest of my admission decisions and I'll compare every reasonable offer in detail and probably toss a coin to make the definitive choice.

That's absolutely true. My first choice was UK because of common law culture, English speaking society and (at least as I see it) British Universities (names, not its standings in some cases) are internationally recognized and appreciated. Since we come from very same system and we see it same way there must be something in it :). Netherlands have some advantages though. Tuition fees are unbelievably low, and living expenses I think would also be more convenient. University's there are extremely focused on EU law and it's much closer. I also have to take into consideration my girlfriend's opinion since we wish to go together. Well, International Commercial Law in Nottingham looks very appealing and who said I can't go to UK and Netherlands year later? I will simply wait for rest of my admission decisions and I'll compare every reasonable offer in detail and probably toss a coin to make the definitive choice.
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EDIpostgra...

Definitely keep Edinburgh in your sights. The programme is very popular with continental Europeans and is home to the Europa Institute, which offers a great amount of out of class opportunities. Working in the commercial field you will definitely need a strong command of English so I highly suggest the UK.
Best of luck!

Definitely keep Edinburgh in your sights. The programme is very popular with continental Europeans and is home to the Europa Institute, which offers a great amount of out of class opportunities. Working in the commercial field you will definitely need a strong command of English so I highly suggest the UK.
Best of luck!
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Zathanel

As for the Edinburgh, I have applied for European Law indeed. Do You think choosing Edinburgh (if I receive an offer) would boost my prospect for inding a reasonable employment around Europe?

As for the Edinburgh, I have applied for European Law indeed. Do You think choosing Edinburgh (if I receive an offer) would boost my prospect for inding a reasonable employment around Europe?
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Hey you guys, what do you think about Nottingham? I am also considering attending the LLM there. My other choice would be Utrecht.

Hey you guys, what do you think about Nottingham? I am also considering attending the LLM there. My other choice would be Utrecht.
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Zathanel

Heh... What I liked about it was it's ranking standings (personally I do not give faith to rankings but some people do and I thought it's good to attend Uni everybody knows) and it's modules (around 50) with a possibility of even further specialisation, yet that would depend on Your chosen programme. Tuition fees are also reasonable. Well, I have never been there (as anywhere around UK) and all I have said is my subjective opinion based on the information from their (and this) website. Regards.

Heh... What I liked about it was it's ranking standings (personally I do not give faith to rankings but some people do and I thought it's good to attend Uni everybody knows) and it's modules (around 50) with a possibility of even further specialisation, yet that would depend on Your chosen programme. Tuition fees are also reasonable. Well, I have never been there (as anywhere around UK) and all I have said is my subjective opinion based on the information from their (and this) website. Regards.
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sch15m

I have been accepted by universities from both countries. Nevertheless, as it has already been explained, the tuition fees are extremely lower in the Netherlands than in the UK, 5000 GBP or 1500 EUR? no comparison there,

Plus you also need to think of the cultures of the two countries.
I've been studying in the UK for 3 years now doing my LLB, and as a foreign student I am telling you that the UK is depressing, xenophobic at least, most of the youths are in their 20s going on 10, and me and my gf, also a foreigner, hate it here. Also sometimes you can't even understand half the things they say and it's their language.

That's why I applied to the Netherlands, to change environment. But if these factors don't really bother you, then UK it is:)

I have been accepted by universities from both countries. Nevertheless, as it has already been explained, the tuition fees are extremely lower in the Netherlands than in the UK, 5000 GBP or 1500 EUR? no comparison there,

Plus you also need to think of the cultures of the two countries.
I've been studying in the UK for 3 years now doing my LLB, and as a foreign student I am telling you that the UK is depressing, xenophobic at least, most of the youths are in their 20s going on 10, and me and my gf, also a foreigner, hate it here. Also sometimes you can't even understand half the things they say and it's their language.

That's why I applied to the Netherlands, to change environment. But if these factors don't really bother you, then UK it is:)
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Zathanel

Well, that certainly is not encouraging in case of UK :). But to be honest, lots of people I know have very familiar attitude towards UK. And that's why I wasn't that crazy about England. Yet, I have never been in UK and I don't have any personal experience. Tough choice, especially since I have already received one offer from Netherlands and waiting for the rest. I'm completely at a loss... Completely... I was thinking maybe I can do LLM in UK (still a great experience and it's only 1 year) and then try to get a PhD degree in Netherlands... Still all those factors You have mentioned are important in choosing a city in UK where shall I be heading. For sure, I will never go to London or Manchester. Any advice?

Well, that certainly is not encouraging in case of UK :). But to be honest, lots of people I know have very familiar attitude towards UK. And that's why I wasn't that crazy about England. Yet, I have never been in UK and I don't have any personal experience. Tough choice, especially since I have already received one offer from Netherlands and waiting for the rest. I'm completely at a loss... Completely... I was thinking maybe I can do LLM in UK (still a great experience and it's only 1 year) and then try to get a PhD degree in Netherlands... Still all those factors You have mentioned are important in choosing a city in UK where shall I be heading. For sure, I will never go to London or Manchester. Any advice?
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sch15m

I am currently studying in Southampton, which is probably the best place I've been in the UK because it's a small student city, it's got the best campus i've seen, and I mean an actual campus with all the buildings linked, gym, lecture halls, student services centres, not random buildings in the city like in Manchester or London. And above all, you get to see some sun during the summer. It's got docks and yachts and stuff to do, and big cities like London are only 1:40 minutes away by train. But you are cut off from the midland, takes like 4:30 hours to go to manchester.
I hear Bristol is a really great city to study in and my friends always praise it as being amazing, I've been accepted there for an LLM which is tempting considering I want to go to the Netherlands.
Also Warwick is great but for some people its way too small, it's almost like a village.
Listen man the UK also has some advantages, such as concerts, many bands tour through here every year and there are many international students to hang out with,(thats how I met my gf). I tried fraternising with the locals but I failed, being a foreigner with an accent scares them for some reason, maybe because I speak better coherent English than them.:)

I am currently studying in Southampton, which is probably the best place I've been in the UK because it's a small student city, it's got the best campus i've seen, and I mean an actual campus with all the buildings linked, gym, lecture halls, student services centres, not random buildings in the city like in Manchester or London. And above all, you get to see some sun during the summer. It's got docks and yachts and stuff to do, and big cities like London are only 1:40 minutes away by train. But you are cut off from the midland, takes like 4:30 hours to go to manchester.
I hear Bristol is a really great city to study in and my friends always praise it as being amazing, I've been accepted there for an LLM which is tempting considering I want to go to the Netherlands.
Also Warwick is great but for some people its way too small, it's almost like a village.
Listen man the UK also has some advantages, such as concerts, many bands tour through here every year and there are many international students to hang out with,(thats how I met my gf). I tried fraternising with the locals but I failed, being a foreigner with an accent scares them for some reason, maybe because I speak better coherent English than them.:)
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Zathanel

Actually, Unis I was accepted to and consider are Nottingham, Newcastle, Leeds and I'm waiting for Edi. I wanted to apply to Southampton, too late I guess... But I liked those above. Thanks for help. Coin toss would probably be best indicator :).

Actually, Unis I was accepted to and consider are Nottingham, Newcastle, Leeds and I'm waiting for Edi. I wanted to apply to Southampton, too late I guess... But I liked those above. Thanks for help. Coin toss would probably be best indicator :).
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