Cambridge LLM 2017 - 2018 Applicants


citoyen99
Officially rejected Oxford's BCL for Cambridge - can't be happier! Which college is everyone going to?

Dear citoyen99, may I ask how did you make your choice? I mean reject Oxford and choose Cambridge? I have received offers from Cambridge LLM and Oxford Magister Juris, but I am not so decided to choose one. Would you please help me? Thanks a lot!

Dear LouisJK, i had the same decision (MJur Oxford vs. LLM Cambridge) to make and eventually chose Cambridge. In my home country, they share the same reputation. So that wasn't a factor. However, the Oxford MJur programme seems to be a bit more rigid (heavy load of essays + supervisions), while Cambridge seems to give you a bit more space to work on your own. Personally I prefer the latter. Also, the tuition fee is lower for EU students and one of the courses I want to read isn't offered by Oxford this year.


1. Both universities are very well regarded, but the BCL has problems outside the English bar (I don't intend to be a barrister in England). You'd always need to explain that the BCL is actually a postgraduate qualification and that you didn't learn civil law (as it is now commonly known) on the course, and even then, it's not treated with as much respect. The effort-to-reward ratio just doesn't make sense. Whereas with the LLM (Cantab), it's much more straightforward.

2. I'm interested in international law modules, and the Cambridge LLM is known to be best in those modules in the common law world. Oxford is better for things like restitution which I don't intend to take as a module.

If it helps, I'm also including reasons why you might choose the BCL over the LLM:
(i) You want to be a barrister in England (the BCL > LLM any day)
(ii) You want a smaller overall course intake (although the difference, per module, is usually not massive)
(iii) You want tutorials (which I think is very attractive, but you only get--I heard--around 1 or 2 tutorial(s) per term)
[quote][quote][quote]Officially rejected Oxford's BCL for Cambridge - can't be happier! Which college is everyone going to? [/quote]
Dear citoyen99, may I ask how did you make your choice? I mean reject Oxford and choose Cambridge? I have received offers from Cambridge LLM and Oxford Magister Juris, but I am not so decided to choose one. Would you please help me? Thanks a lot![/quote]
Dear LouisJK, i had the same decision (MJur Oxford vs. LLM Cambridge) to make and eventually chose Cambridge. In my home country, they share the same reputation. So that wasn't a factor. However, the Oxford MJur programme seems to be a bit more rigid (heavy load of essays + supervisions), while Cambridge seems to give you a bit more space to work on your own. Personally I prefer the latter. Also, the tuition fee is lower for EU students and one of the courses I want to read isn't offered by Oxford this year.[/quote]

1. Both universities are very well regarded, but the BCL has problems outside the English bar (I don't intend to be a barrister in England). You'd always need to explain that the BCL is actually a postgraduate qualification and that you didn't learn civil law (as it is now commonly known) on the course, and even then, it's not treated with as much respect. The effort-to-reward ratio just doesn't make sense. Whereas with the LLM (Cantab), it's much more straightforward.

2. I'm interested in international law modules, and the Cambridge LLM is known to be best in those modules in the common law world. Oxford is better for things like restitution which I don't intend to take as a module.

If it helps, I'm also including reasons why you might choose the BCL over the LLM:
(i) You want to be a barrister in England (the BCL > LLM any day)
(ii) You want a smaller overall course intake (although the difference, per module, is usually not massive)
(iii) You want tutorials (which I think is very attractive, but you only get--I heard--around 1 or 2 tutorial(s) per term)
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ik0214
Anyone still stuck at the "application awaiting approval" stage?!


Join the club. And I called a week ago, was told it would be changed by last Thursday at the latest, and still nothing. Cambridge will receive a piece of my mind whenever this is over. This unprofessional treatment is nothing other than despicable.


I am pretty annoyed myself! It took forever for my status to change from DC to BOGS and now I have been stuck at the approval stage for over 10 days. I just don't understand the delay with everything.
[quote][quote]Anyone still stuck at the "application awaiting approval" stage?! [/quote]

Join the club. And I called a week ago, was told it would be changed by last Thursday at the latest, and still nothing. Cambridge will receive a piece of my mind whenever this is over. This unprofessional treatment is nothing other than despicable.[/quote]

I am pretty annoyed myself! It took forever for my status to change from DC to BOGS and now I have been stuck at the approval stage for over 10 days. I just don't understand the delay with everything.
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robot6

Dear citoyen99, may I ask how did you make your choice? I mean reject Oxford and choose Cambridge? I have received offers from Cambridge LLM and Oxford Magister Juris, but I am not so decided to choose one. Would you please help me? Thanks a lot!

Dear LouisJK, i had the same decision (MJur Oxford vs. LLM Cambridge) to make and eventually chose Cambridge. In my home country, they share the same reputation. So that wasn't a factor. However, the Oxford MJur programme seems to be a bit more rigid (heavy load of essays + supervisions), while Cambridge seems to give you a bit more space to work on your own. Personally I prefer the latter. Also, the tuition fee is lower for EU students and one of the courses I want to read isn't offered by Oxford this year.


1. Both universities are very well regarded, but the BCL has problems outside the English bar (I don't intend to be a barrister in England). You'd always need to explain that the BCL is actually a postgraduate qualification and that you didn't learn civil law (as it is now commonly known) on the course, and even then, it's not treated with as much respect. The effort-to-reward ratio just doesn't make sense. Whereas with the LLM (Cantab), it's much more straightforward.

2. I'm interested in international law modules, and the Cambridge LLM is known to be best in those modules in the common law world. Oxford is better for things like restitution which I don't intend to take as a module.

If it helps, I'm also including reasons why you might choose the BCL over the LLM:
(i) You want to be a barrister in England (the BCL > LLM any day)
(ii) You want a smaller overall course intake (although the difference, per module, is usually not massive)
(iii) You want tutorials (which I think is very attractive, but you only get--I heard--around 1 or 2 tutorial(s) per term)


Interesting to hear those who chose Cambridge over Oxford. I didn't apply to Oxford because I felt that the MJur courses didn't suit my interests very early on. I got into one of the "Big 3" US schools (Yale, Harvard, Stanford) though, but I'm choosing Cambridge. Anybody else on the same boat? Would love to hear how others made their choice. For me, it came down to finances (it's way cheaper to study in the UK compared to the US) and the opportunity for a true postgraduate experience (as opposed to sharing classes with JDs).
[quote][quote][quote][quote]Officially rejected Oxford's BCL for Cambridge - can't be happier! Which college is everyone going to? [/quote]
Dear citoyen99, may I ask how did you make your choice? I mean reject Oxford and choose Cambridge? I have received offers from Cambridge LLM and Oxford Magister Juris, but I am not so decided to choose one. Would you please help me? Thanks a lot![/quote]
Dear LouisJK, i had the same decision (MJur Oxford vs. LLM Cambridge) to make and eventually chose Cambridge. In my home country, they share the same reputation. So that wasn't a factor. However, the Oxford MJur programme seems to be a bit more rigid (heavy load of essays + supervisions), while Cambridge seems to give you a bit more space to work on your own. Personally I prefer the latter. Also, the tuition fee is lower for EU students and one of the courses I want to read isn't offered by Oxford this year.[/quote]

1. Both universities are very well regarded, but the BCL has problems outside the English bar (I don't intend to be a barrister in England). You'd always need to explain that the BCL is actually a postgraduate qualification and that you didn't learn civil law (as it is now commonly known) on the course, and even then, it's not treated with as much respect. The effort-to-reward ratio just doesn't make sense. Whereas with the LLM (Cantab), it's much more straightforward.

2. I'm interested in international law modules, and the Cambridge LLM is known to be best in those modules in the common law world. Oxford is better for things like restitution which I don't intend to take as a module.

If it helps, I'm also including reasons why you might choose the BCL over the LLM:
(i) You want to be a barrister in England (the BCL > LLM any day)
(ii) You want a smaller overall course intake (although the difference, per module, is usually not massive)
(iii) You want tutorials (which I think is very attractive, but you only get--I heard--around 1 or 2 tutorial(s) per term)[/quote]

Interesting to hear those who chose Cambridge over Oxford. I didn't apply to Oxford because I felt that the MJur courses didn't suit my interests very early on. I got into one of the "Big 3" US schools (Yale, Harvard, Stanford) though, but I'm choosing Cambridge. Anybody else on the same boat? Would love to hear how others made their choice. For me, it came down to finances (it's way cheaper to study in the UK compared to the US) and the opportunity for a true postgraduate experience (as opposed to sharing classes with JDs).
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Hey guys. I finally received a conditional offer from Cambridge. I reviewed my conditions and I am required to obtain a high GPA at the LLM I am currently doing in the USA. Does anyone know how stringent is the law school regarding Master results:
Also, Do you know which is the dealine for sending the documents?
Hey guys. I finally received a conditional offer from Cambridge. I reviewed my conditions and I am required to obtain a high GPA at the LLM I am currently doing in the USA. Does anyone know how stringent is the law school regarding Master results:
Also, Do you know which is the dealine for sending the documents?
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patb
Hey guys. I finally received a conditional offer from Cambridge. I reviewed my conditions and I am required to obtain a high GPA at the LLM I am currently doing in the USA. Does anyone know how stringent is the law school regarding Master results:
Also, Do you know which is the dealine for sending the documents?


I don't know about whether they are stringent in regards to Master's results but I can tell you that all documents are to be submitted by the 31st of July which should at least answer one part of your question and congratulations on your offer!
[quote]Hey guys. I finally received a conditional offer from Cambridge. I reviewed my conditions and I am required to obtain a high GPA at the LLM I am currently doing in the USA. Does anyone know how stringent is the law school regarding Master results:
Also, Do you know which is the dealine for sending the documents?[/quote]

I don't know about whether they are stringent in regards to Master's results but I can tell you that all documents are to be submitted by the 31st of July which should at least answer one part of your question and congratulations on your offer!
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patb

Interesting to hear those who chose Cambridge over Oxford. I didn't apply to Oxford because I felt that the MJur courses didn't suit my interests very early on. I got into one of the "Big 3" US schools (Yale, Harvard, Stanford) though, but I'm choosing Cambridge. Anybody else on the same boat? Would love to hear how others made their choice. For me, it came down to finances (it's way cheaper to study in the UK compared to the US) and the opportunity for a true postgraduate experience (as opposed to sharing classes with JDs).


I'm in the same boat in that I didn't apply for Oxford, I did consider it but I have a preference for international law and European law subjects which Cambridge are very respected for. Additionally the Oxford application was due the same day as my dissertation so it was a bit of a relief when I came to the conclusion that I didn't want to apply for their BCL. I'm an Irish student who is studying in Ireland at the moment however, the Cambridge LLM is actually about £4000/ €5000 (give or take) cheaper for me so that's just a nice cherry on the top as its where I wish to go.
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Interesting to hear those who chose Cambridge over Oxford. I didn't apply to Oxford because I felt that the MJur courses didn't suit my interests very early on. I got into one of the "Big 3" US schools (Yale, Harvard, Stanford) though, but I'm choosing Cambridge. Anybody else on the same boat? Would love to hear how others made their choice. For me, it came down to finances (it's way cheaper to study in the UK compared to the US) and the opportunity for a true postgraduate experience (as opposed to sharing classes with JDs).[/quote]

I'm in the same boat in that I didn't apply for Oxford, I did consider it but I have a preference for international law and European law subjects which Cambridge are very respected for. Additionally the Oxford application was due the same day as my dissertation so it was a bit of a relief when I came to the conclusion that I didn't want to apply for their BCL. I'm an Irish student who is studying in Ireland at the moment however, the Cambridge LLM is actually about £4000/ €5000 (give or take) cheaper for me so that's just a nice cherry on the top as its where I wish to go.
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cam2017
Hey all, long time follower, first time poster. I received an email from Ms Wade on 21 March confirming I had received a conditional offer for the LLM and my status on CamSIS moved to 'Awaiting Decision by BGS' shortly after, then 'Awaiting Approval by BGS' shortly after that. My CamSIS hasn't changed since then. It's now 20 April, an offer I had received from a US institution has lapsed, and I am not yet in contention for a number of scholarships from my home university because I haven't been able to provide formal confirmation of my offer from Cambridge. I've sent a couple of emails checking on the status of my application which have gone unanswered. Does anyone know what the deal is? I think Cambridge will be amazing, and I'm so glad I (hopefully) will be there later this year, but this process has been really frustrating and disappointing. It's nearly May.
Hey all, long time follower, first time poster. I received an email from Ms Wade on 21 March confirming I had received a conditional offer for the LLM and my status on CamSIS moved to 'Awaiting Decision by BGS' shortly after, then 'Awaiting Approval by BGS' shortly after that. My CamSIS hasn't changed since then. It's now 20 April, an offer I had received from a US institution has lapsed, and I am not yet in contention for a number of scholarships from my home university because I haven't been able to provide formal confirmation of my offer from Cambridge. I've sent a couple of emails checking on the status of my application which have gone unanswered. Does anyone know what the deal is? I think Cambridge will be amazing, and I'm so glad I (hopefully) will be there later this year, but this process has been really frustrating and disappointing. It's nearly May.
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ik0214
Hey all, long time follower, first time poster. I received an email from Ms Wade on 21 March confirming I had received a conditional offer for the LLM and my status on CamSIS moved to 'Awaiting Decision by BGS' shortly after, then 'Awaiting Approval by BGS' shortly after that. My CamSIS hasn't changed since then. It's now 20 April, an offer I had received from a US institution has lapsed, and I am not yet in contention for a number of scholarships from my home university because I haven't been able to provide formal confirmation of my offer from Cambridge. I've sent a couple of emails checking on the status of my application which have gone unanswered. Does anyone know what the deal is? I think Cambridge will be amazing, and I'm so glad I (hopefully) will be there later this year, but this process has been really frustrating and disappointing. It's nearly May.


Hey cam2017, I am unfortunately in the same situation! I haven't been able to apply for scholarships because I don't have any written confirmation and my status is still stuck at the approval stage. I am thinking of calling them up tomorrow. I have declined offers from all the other colleges even though I don't have any confirmation from Cambridge. Unfortunately we can only wait and hope the status changes (for the better) soon!
[quote]Hey all, long time follower, first time poster. I received an email from Ms Wade on 21 March confirming I had received a conditional offer for the LLM and my status on CamSIS moved to 'Awaiting Decision by BGS' shortly after, then 'Awaiting Approval by BGS' shortly after that. My CamSIS hasn't changed since then. It's now 20 April, an offer I had received from a US institution has lapsed, and I am not yet in contention for a number of scholarships from my home university because I haven't been able to provide formal confirmation of my offer from Cambridge. I've sent a couple of emails checking on the status of my application which have gone unanswered. Does anyone know what the deal is? I think Cambridge will be amazing, and I'm so glad I (hopefully) will be there later this year, but this process has been really frustrating and disappointing. It's nearly May.[/quote]

Hey cam2017, I am unfortunately in the same situation! I haven't been able to apply for scholarships because I don't have any written confirmation and my status is still stuck at the approval stage. I am thinking of calling them up tomorrow. I have declined offers from all the other colleges even though I don't have any confirmation from Cambridge. Unfortunately we can only wait and hope the status changes (for the better) soon!
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XaviZhao
Just got admitted to Jesus college!
Just got admitted to Jesus college!
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ik0214
For everyone stuck at the approval stage, I spoke to Miss Wade yesterday and she told me that the status should change in the coming week. Also, I asked her if there are still chances of getting rejected and she said it is"unlikely". I told her that the scholarship I intend to apply to has a mid may deadline, so she told me not to worry and that I will definitely hear something next week though she can't tell me the exact date.
For everyone stuck at the approval stage, I spoke to Miss Wade yesterday and she told me that the status should change in the coming week. Also, I asked her if there are still chances of getting rejected and she said it is"unlikely". I told her that the scholarship I intend to apply to has a mid may deadline, so she told me not to worry and that I will definitely hear something next week though she can't tell me the exact date.
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LegalLife
Hi all,

First of all congrats to those who have received an offer and hang in there for those who are still waiting for one. Have a question, do you guys know the likelihood of Cambridge accepting a defferal due to a financial constraint that occur beyond one's control? There no doubt that I want to attend Cambridge, but the scholarship provider I was aiming at made an abrupt change of policy that basically only allows applicants to attend their chosen uni the following year, i.e., 2018.

I have been rummaging older posts and other forums but seem to gather very little information. I've tried to call Ms. Wade, but her answer was negative yet pretty template-ish. I hope to have some insights from practice/ experiences, if you guys have heard/ go through any. Thank you!


The unfortunate truth is that they will not grant you a deferal. The Cambridge LLM has one of the strictest deferral policies in the entire UK! Unreasonable but that is the reality! I tried it once upon a time on the exact same grounds and it was rejected. However, I reapplied the next year and got in. So if your grades are good and you have got in once, you should not have an issue getting in again.
[quote]Hi all,

First of all congrats to those who have received an offer and hang in there for those who are still waiting for one. Have a question, do you guys know the likelihood of Cambridge accepting a defferal due to a financial constraint that occur beyond one's control? There no doubt that I want to attend Cambridge, but the scholarship provider I was aiming at made an abrupt change of policy that basically only allows applicants to attend their chosen uni the following year, i.e., 2018.

I have been rummaging older posts and other forums but seem to gather very little information. I've tried to call Ms. Wade, but her answer was negative yet pretty template-ish. I hope to have some insights from practice/ experiences, if you guys have heard/ go through any. Thank you![/quote]

The unfortunate truth is that they will not grant you a deferal. The Cambridge LLM has one of the strictest deferral policies in the entire UK! Unreasonable but that is the reality! I tried it once upon a time on the exact same grounds and it was rejected. However, I reapplied the next year and got in. So if your grades are good and you have got in once, you should not have an issue getting in again.
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DelaCour


Hi Dela Cour I share similar concerns, I am worried that the transcript won't be out by 31 July, but as I read from the offers booklet that in case "your current course finishes after the start date (including any academic pre-sessional courses of your upcoming course), you should sign and upload the 'current course of study declaration' confirming that you will provide evidence of completion of your course before the start of term. "

I wonder if this is applicable because for my case, my course finishes before the start date, but the transcript may not be ready before the deadline for meeting conditions. If anyone has a clue, grateful if you could let us know.


I have the exact same issue. My course will finish on the 30 June, however I usually receive all my results by mid-August. I had emailed Ms Wade but I have not, as yet, gotten a reply


As an alternative to that, I see that they also accept a letter/ certification from your home university to the same effect. However, if I have not completed the course yet, the best the university can do is to certify the normal period for the course (for me, it ends in mid- July, but it may also drag on to early September the latest if re-sits are required), so currently I am rather confused about the course of actions I should take. Appreciate if you could share with me in case Ms. Wade replies.


nonewsisgoodnews, so Ms Wade got back to me. She asked me to send her by when I should be receiving my results, and that she will "check the situation for you". I don't know, maybe we'll be allowed to send our transcripts a little later? I suggest you send her an email explaining the situation.

[Edited by DelaCour on Apr 24, 2017]

[quote][quote][quote][quote]Also, I have a question about one of my offers. Has anyone ever heard of the 31st July deadline being extended? I need to submit evidence that I would have completed my studies by that date (which is understandable), but I have my doubts as to whether I will meet the deadline. I have a thesis that I need to submit and I have my reservations as to whether it will be corrected by then[/quote]

Hi Dela Cour I share similar concerns, I am worried that the transcript won't be out by 31 July, but as I read from the offers booklet that in case "your current course finishes after the start date (including any academic pre-sessional courses of your upcoming course), you should sign and upload the 'current course of study declaration' confirming that you will provide evidence of completion of your course before the start of term. "

I wonder if this is applicable because for my case, my course finishes before the start date, but the transcript may not be ready before the deadline for meeting conditions. If anyone has a clue, grateful if you could let us know. [/quote]

I have the exact same issue. My course will finish on the 30 June, however I usually receive all my results by mid-August. I had emailed Ms Wade but I have not, as yet, gotten a reply[/quote]

As an alternative to that, I see that they also accept a letter/ certification from your home university to the same effect. However, if I have not completed the course yet, the best the university can do is to certify the normal period for the course (for me, it ends in mid- July, but it may also drag on to early September the latest if re-sits are required), so currently I am rather confused about the course of actions I should take. Appreciate if you could share with me in case Ms. Wade replies.[/quote]

nonewsisgoodnews, so Ms Wade got back to me. She asked me to send her by when I should be receiving my results, and that she will "check the situation for you". I don't know, maybe we'll be allowed to send our transcripts a little later? I suggest you send her an email explaining the situation.
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I have the exact same issue. My course will finish on the 30 June, however I usually receive all my results by mid-August. I had emailed Ms Wade but I have not, as yet, gotten a reply


As an alternative to that, I see that they also accept a letter/ certification from your home university to the same effect. However, if I have not completed the course yet, the best the university can do is to certify the normal period for the course (for me, it ends in mid- July, but it may also drag on to early September the latest if re-sits are required), so currently I am rather confused about the course of actions I should take. Appreciate if you could share with me in case Ms. Wade replies.


nonewsisgoodnews, so Ms Wade got back to me. She asked me to send her by when I should be receiving my results, and that she will "check the situation for you". I don't know, maybe we'll be allowed to send our transcripts a little later? I suggest you send her an email explaining the situation.


Thanks DelaCour, will send Ms. Wade an email. In the mean time, let's keep each other posted :)
[quote][quote][quote][quote][quote]Also, I have a question about one of my offers. Has anyone ever heard of the 31st July deadline being extended? I need to submit evidence that I would have completed my studies by that date (which is understandable), but I have my doubts as to whether I will meet the deadline. I have a thesis that I need to submit and I have my reservations as to whether it will be corrected by then[/quote]

Hi Dela Cour I share similar concerns, I am worried that the transcript won't be out by 31 July, but as I read from the offers booklet that in case "your current course finishes after the start date (including any academic pre-sessional courses of your upcoming course), you should sign and upload the 'current course of study declaration' confirming that you will provide evidence of completion of your course before the start of term. "

I wonder if this is applicable because for my case, my course finishes before the start date, but the transcript may not be ready before the deadline for meeting conditions. If anyone has a clue, grateful if you could let us know. [/quote]

I have the exact same issue. My course will finish on the 30 June, however I usually receive all my results by mid-August. I had emailed Ms Wade but I have not, as yet, gotten a reply[/quote]

As an alternative to that, I see that they also accept a letter/ certification from your home university to the same effect. However, if I have not completed the course yet, the best the university can do is to certify the normal period for the course (for me, it ends in mid- July, but it may also drag on to early September the latest if re-sits are required), so currently I am rather confused about the course of actions I should take. Appreciate if you could share with me in case Ms. Wade replies.[/quote]

nonewsisgoodnews, so Ms Wade got back to me. She asked me to send her by when I should be receiving my results, and that she will "check the situation for you". I don't know, maybe we'll be allowed to send our transcripts a little later? I suggest you send her an email explaining the situation. [/quote]

Thanks DelaCour, will send Ms. Wade an email. In the mean time, let's keep each other posted :)
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DelaCour
Just got admitted to Jesus college!


Did anyone else hear back from Cambridge re college memberships recently? I've been under consideration by college for weeks!
[quote]Just got admitted to Jesus college![/quote]

Did anyone else hear back from Cambridge re college memberships recently? I've been under consideration by college for weeks!
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Jcm
Just got admitted to Jesus college!


Did anyone else hear back from Cambridge re college memberships recently? I've been under consideration by college for weeks!


Last week I've been admitted to eddies.
[quote][quote]Just got admitted to Jesus college![/quote]

Did anyone else hear back from Cambridge re college memberships recently? I've been under consideration by college for weeks![/quote]

Last week I've been admitted to eddies.
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sbn414
Just got admitted to Jesus college!


Did anyone else hear back from Cambridge re college memberships recently? I've been under consideration by college for weeks!


Last week I've been admitted to eddies.


Girton here, heard from them a week ago.
[quote][quote][quote]Just got admitted to Jesus college![/quote]

Did anyone else hear back from Cambridge re college memberships recently? I've been under consideration by college for weeks![/quote]

Last week I've been admitted to eddies.[/quote]

Girton here, heard from them a week ago.
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Callbhockq
Trinity rejected my application, i guess another college is considering now.
Trinity rejected my application, i guess another college is considering now.
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SS_25
Trinity rejected my application, i guess another college is considering now.


Both colleges of my preference rejected my application. Still seeking college membership.
[quote]Trinity rejected my application, i guess another college is considering now.[/quote]

Both colleges of my preference rejected my application. Still seeking college membership.
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Ada123
Same as ^. Corpus rejected mine, waiting on Wolfson.
Same as ^. Corpus rejected mine, waiting on Wolfson.
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How do you know that those colleges have rejected your application? My self service page just says "seeking college membership"
How do you know that those colleges have rejected your application? My self service page just says "seeking college membership"
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