UPenn vs Berkeley


z_law
Guys, any thoughts on this?

Although US News ranking is a bit confusing, UPenn is good for its Wharton certificate.

On the other hand, Berkeley seems to be a more reputable university.

Could please share you ideas to make my decision easier.

Thank you!
Guys, any thoughts on this?

Although US News ranking is a bit confusing, UPenn is good for its Wharton certificate.

On the other hand, Berkeley seems to be a more reputable university.

Could please share you ideas to make my decision easier.

Thank you!
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arwa
I was in the same dilemma a week ago! I've decided to go to Upenn mainly because of the Wharton certificate, plus, Upenn is famous for its corporate law faculty, which is my focus!
Do not only rely on the reputation when making your decision, after all they're both top universities in the US and the difference can't be that huge!
I was in the same dilemma a week ago! I've decided to go to Upenn mainly because of the Wharton certificate, plus, Upenn is famous for its corporate law faculty, which is my focus!
Do not only rely on the reputation when making your decision, after all they're both top universities in the US and the difference can't be that huge!
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onefish
One vote on UPenn, for it is an IVY.
One vote on UPenn, for it is an IVY.
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z_law
Frankly speaking, I do not rely on the IVY status.

Does anybody know whether there is any seat limits for the Wharton Certificate?
Frankly speaking, I do not rely on the IVY status.

Does anybody know whether there is any seat limits for the Wharton Certificate?
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Espansiva
With some people, public security would be a one factor..
With some people, public security would be a one factor..
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This conversation is ridiculous. Both UPenn and Berkeley are outstanding law schools and universities overall. If you were accepted to both, then kudos to you. You cannot go wrong with either of them. They each have their specialties (UPenn for business, Berkeley for IP), but if you are a foreign lawyer, you will take US general courses anyway. The real question is whether you want to live in San Francisco or Philadelphia. These two cities have virtually nothing in common, so it makes your decision easier.
This conversation is ridiculous. Both UPenn and Berkeley are outstanding law schools and universities overall. If you were accepted to both, then kudos to you. You cannot go wrong with either of them. They each have their specialties (UPenn for business, Berkeley for IP), but if you are a foreign lawyer, you will take US general courses anyway. The real question is whether you want to live in San Francisco or Philadelphia. These two cities have virtually nothing in common, so it makes your decision easier.
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z_law
I wouldn't say that it is so easy to choose, but totally agree that these are two great schools. Otherwise, I wouldn't simply doubt)
I wouldn't say that it is so easy to choose, but totally agree that these are two great schools. Otherwise, I wouldn't simply doubt)
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Personally, I would choose UPenn. You will benefit greatly from Ivy League networking throughout your career. Ivy Leaguers tend to stick together.
Personally, I would choose UPenn. You will benefit greatly from Ivy League networking throughout your career. Ivy Leaguers tend to stick together.
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Never heard that someone from NYU, Berkeley or Stanford had any problems in networking or getting an amazing position after completing an LLM there. None of these schools belong to the Ivy League yet all of them belong to the group of top law schools in the world. While Ivy is prestigious stamp, each and every one of these on the CV bears more or less the same stamp of quality. I would however take careful consideration when deciding where to live for a year. California is amazing, but requires a car year around. Philly is different and has a completely different pace and climate. While these things seem unimportant and meaningless - they turn out to bear way more weight than people are ready to comprehend at this stage of decision making.

Additionally, if there is a specific niche in law you want to pursue, take a careful consideration of the faculty's staff for each of the universities - differences in terms of live costs and experience are insignificant - but a person who is specialist in a topic you want to pursue might be a better choice for your career and further development.

Finally, all you really have to do is pick the university that suits you better. Making a choice between these two is, in general, an easy one to make - but try to be honest with yourself and imagine what it would be like to spend an academic year in each of these. The imagined picture that gives you more ease should win :D
Never heard that someone from NYU, Berkeley or Stanford had any problems in networking or getting an amazing position after completing an LLM there. None of these schools belong to the Ivy League yet all of them belong to the group of top law schools in the world. While Ivy is prestigious stamp, each and every one of these on the CV bears more or less the same stamp of quality. I would however take careful consideration when deciding where to live for a year. California is amazing, but requires a car year around. Philly is different and has a completely different pace and climate. While these things seem unimportant and meaningless - they turn out to bear way more weight than people are ready to comprehend at this stage of decision making.

Additionally, if there is a specific niche in law you want to pursue, take a careful consideration of the faculty's staff for each of the universities - differences in terms of live costs and experience are insignificant - but a person who is specialist in a topic you want to pursue might be a better choice for your career and further development.

Finally, all you really have to do is pick the university that suits you better. Making a choice between these two is, in general, an easy one to make - but try to be honest with yourself and imagine what it would be like to spend an academic year in each of these. The imagined picture that gives you more ease should win :D
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Never heard that someone from NYU, Berkeley or Stanford had any problems in networking or getting an amazing position after completing an LLM there.

I don't disagree with your assessment. You WILL be successful if you go to one of these schools. All I was saying is that people who go to Ivy League schools have very close-knit networks even with other Ivy League schools.
<blockquote>Never heard that someone from NYU, Berkeley or Stanford had any problems in networking or getting an amazing position after completing an LLM there.

I don't disagree with your assessment. You WILL be successful if you go to one of these schools. All I was saying is that people who go to Ivy League schools have very close-knit networks even with other Ivy League schools.
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