NYU Tax LLM - Domestic Candidates


congrats to both of you! what are your stats, and when did you apply.

congrats to both of you! what are your stats, and when did you apply.
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congrats to both of you! what are your stats, and when did you apply.


I applied way back in october and I think my application was complete in early November.

I graduated from UCLA Law with a 3.1 after a slow start my first year (3rd year gpa was 3.55). Coauthored a Law Review article with a professor and worked for 1 year with a tax consulting firm. I had a good letter of rec from a well known tax law professor.

To everyone waiting, keep your spirits up. I know how you feel.

<blockquote>congrats to both of you! what are your stats, and when did you apply.</blockquote>

I applied way back in october and I think my application was complete in early November.

I graduated from UCLA Law with a 3.1 after a slow start my first year (3rd year gpa was 3.55). Coauthored a Law Review article with a professor and worked for 1 year with a tax consulting firm. I had a good letter of rec from a well known tax law professor.

To everyone waiting, keep your spirits up. I know how you feel.
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mikerodge

3L at ASU. Transferred from Western State College of Law. At Western, 3.7 GPA, top ranked in class. At ASU, transfers are unranked- by the numbers my GPA would be just outside the top 15% mark (but doesn't factor in my first year). ASU Law Review, but only three tax classes. A in Fed Income, A- in Corporate, B in Estate and Gift. Recs from tax professor and a tax specialist at the firm in Phoenix I summered for.

Application became complete March 30. I hope you all hear soon. Waiting for the news is the worst.

3L at ASU. Transferred from Western State College of Law. At Western, 3.7 GPA, top ranked in class. At ASU, transfers are unranked- by the numbers my GPA would be just outside the top 15% mark (but doesn't factor in my first year). ASU Law Review, but only three tax classes. A in Fed Income, A- in Corporate, B in Estate and Gift. Recs from tax professor and a tax specialist at the firm in Phoenix I summered for.

Application became complete March 30. I hope you all hear soon. Waiting for the news is the worst.

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Hey Guys,

I received a letter from NYU Law (LLM Tax) today (May 14) telling me that I was placed on the Wait List. The new "latest date" they could let me know would be early August. Just seeing if anyone else had received the same letter...

Stats (in case anyone wonders):
Teir 1 Law School
Top 20%
4 Tax Classes (2 As, 1 A-, 1B)
2 Tax Prof Recs

Hey Guys,

I received a letter from NYU Law (LLM Tax) today (May 14) telling me that I was placed on the Wait List. The new "latest date" they could let me know would be early August. Just seeing if anyone else had received the same letter...

Stats (in case anyone wonders):
Teir 1 Law School
Top 20%
4 Tax Classes (2 As, 1 A-, 1B)
2 Tax Prof Recs
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Argyle

Same for me today (May 15). Stats: USNWR 50-60 ranked school, top 15%, cum laude, law review, 2 tax classes (B+ and A+), 6 months at B4 accounting firm, refs from tax prof and partner at B4 firm.

Same for me today (May 15). Stats: USNWR 50-60 ranked school, top 15%, cum laude, law review, 2 tax classes (B+ and A+), 6 months at B4 accounting firm, refs from tax prof and partner at B4 firm.
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Got the same waitlist letter from NYU yesterday. Hopefully early August is a worse case scenario, as I'm not too excited to try and move to New York City and begin the LLM program on 2 weeks notice. Oh well, I guess it's better than a rejection.

Stats:
Tier 1 law school (US News rank between 30 and 40)
Top 30%

Good luck to anyone else still waiting.

Got the same waitlist letter from NYU yesterday. Hopefully early August is a worse case scenario, as I'm not too excited to try and move to New York City and begin the LLM program on 2 weeks notice. Oh well, I guess it's better than a rejection.

Stats:
Tier 1 law school (US News rank between 30 and 40)
Top 30%

Good luck to anyone else still waiting.
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TaxToes

Where are you gonna be trying to get a job after a year? I'm sure it might be real competitive in New York and Washington, and I would imagine you might have to do a little of the leg work yourself b/c jobs might not be as plentiful, but even as bad as the economy is the tax LLM from NYU still has to be worth it.


Um ( no not really)... although the next year may be better in terms of the economy.. I just graduated from NYU's Tax Program. I do not regret it for a moment. It undoubtedly has given me a very strong base in tax and I am more confident about addressing novel issues in the law.

Having said that.... I would speculate that less than 50% of my graduating class has jobs (regardless of grades). Most that do are returning to jobs they held prior to entering the program.

So if your looking to get a higher paying job or even an LLM to get you a job, DONT!! However, if you are wanting to learn tax in order to become the best tax attorney you can be, no matter what your paid, then NYU is the place for you.
Alternatively, if you are just wanting to fulfill your time with something in order to wait out the worst part ( lets hope) of this economic slump, you may find cheaper options. But an LLM in tax would definately be enhancing your skills.

<blockquote>Where are you gonna be trying to get a job after a year? I'm sure it might be real competitive in New York and Washington, and I would imagine you might have to do a little of the leg work yourself b/c jobs might not be as plentiful, but even as bad as the economy is the tax LLM from NYU still has to be worth it. </blockquote>

Um ( no not really)... although the next year may be better in terms of the economy.. I just graduated from NYU's Tax Program. I do not regret it for a moment. It undoubtedly has given me a very strong base in tax and I am more confident about addressing novel issues in the law.

Having said that.... I would speculate that less than 50% of my graduating class has jobs (regardless of grades). Most that do are returning to jobs they held prior to entering the program.

So if your looking to get a higher paying job or even an LLM to get you a job, DONT!! However, if you are wanting to learn tax in order to become the best tax attorney you can be, no matter what your paid, then NYU is the place for you.
Alternatively, if you are just wanting to fulfill your time with something in order to wait out the worst part ( lets hope) of this economic slump, you may find cheaper options. But an LLM in tax would definately be enhancing your skills.
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TaxToes

No that any of you care much anymore at this hour....
But please stop racking your brain as to where you stand in the application process. I know ( like Guillermo stated no one wants to move on two weeks notice). But you wont have much of a life anyway, while in the program, so you dont need more than two weeks to prepare ( UNless you have kids or a spouse thats coming with you).

Just think basic 1st year college necessities ( minus a few unspokens) that is all you need. .... thats coming from a high maintenance person. I brought way too many things, and did way to much to prepare. My roommate brought two suitcases, a comp., and did nothing.

Having just graduated from the program I can tell you my fellow classmates and I ran the gamit of credentials.
I had friends from top 5 JD law schools, law review, big law firm experience, and Ivy league undergrad. I also had friends who took only one tax class and came from lower ranked schools ( I dont know their GPA's or other experience, but they did not take any time off of school).

The one thing I can say is that most were on law review (but I think that is just indicative of any good student). If not publishing something on their own.

Almost every single one of us, got a laugh when we realized we all had no idea why we were let in. We all felt less than adequate ( except for a few huge egos, half who did well and half who did not). But after seeing the same uncertain students perform in class, we quickly learned why our fellow classmates where beside us.

All I can say is the students that were let in share one of two qualities.

1. A passion for tax (Yep I said passion, yes its nerdy, but thats what your in for. Everyone in the programm is a nerd, some closet and others not). I define nerd, as making a joke with an IRC section as the punch line. You thinks thats redic, but I promise. After first semester finals delirium sets in you will find such jokes hilarious.

2. Hard workers. ( these students make the bar exam, seem like a high school midterm). That is not an exaggeration. I have had several friends from previous years who toook the bar exam after comepleting this program and found the bar exam to be a breeze.

Notice.. I did NOT say smart.... everyone in this program is smart. How the admissions commitee knows this, I have no idea... as students are from a very broad range of experience, schools, and tax courses. [BUT GPA cant say I know anyone who had less than a 3.6 who was not also published.]

This is ONLY a student perspective.

No that any of you care much anymore at this hour....
But please stop racking your brain as to where you stand in the application process. I know ( like Guillermo stated no one wants to move on two weeks notice). But you wont have much of a life anyway, while in the program, so you dont need more than two weeks to prepare ( UNless you have kids or a spouse thats coming with you).

Just think basic 1st year college necessities ( minus a few unspokens) that is all you need. .... thats coming from a high maintenance person. I brought way too many things, and did way to much to prepare. My roommate brought two suitcases, a comp., and did nothing.

Having just graduated from the program I can tell you my fellow classmates and I ran the gamit of credentials.
I had friends from top 5 JD law schools, law review, big law firm experience, and Ivy league undergrad. I also had friends who took only one tax class and came from lower ranked schools ( I dont know their GPA's or other experience, but they did not take any time off of school).

The one thing I can say is that most were on law review (but I think that is just indicative of any good student). If not publishing something on their own.

Almost every single one of us, got a laugh when we realized we all had no idea why we were let in. We all felt less than adequate ( except for a few huge egos, half who did well and half who did not). But after seeing the same uncertain students perform in class, we quickly learned why our fellow classmates where beside us.

All I can say is the students that were let in share one of two qualities.

1. A passion for tax (Yep I said passion, yes its nerdy, but thats what your in for. Everyone in the programm is a nerd, some closet and others not). I define nerd, as making a joke with an IRC section as the punch line. You thinks thats redic, but I promise. After first semester finals delirium sets in you will find such jokes hilarious.

2. Hard workers. ( these students make the bar exam, seem like a high school midterm). That is not an exaggeration. I have had several friends from previous years who toook the bar exam after comepleting this program and found the bar exam to be a breeze.

Notice.. I did NOT say smart.... everyone in this program is smart. How the admissions commitee knows this, I have no idea... as students are from a very broad range of experience, schools, and tax courses. [BUT GPA cant say I know anyone who had less than a 3.6 who was not also published.]

This is ONLY a student perspective.
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SadLawyer

TaxToes-

In re: getting an LLM as a way to increase job prospects, do you think geographic location makes a difference? For instance, I am in Minnesota, so perhaps a LLM from NYU would mean a lot more in Minneapolis than it would in NYC or DC to employers? What do you think? Please be honest, because I don't want to rationalize spending tens of thousands of dollars for failed expectations.

Thanks,

SadLawyer

TaxToes-

In re: getting an LLM as a way to increase job prospects, do you think geographic location makes a difference? For instance, I am in Minnesota, so perhaps a LLM from NYU would mean a lot more in Minneapolis than it would in NYC or DC to employers? What do you think? Please be honest, because I don't want to rationalize spending tens of thousands of dollars for failed expectations.

Thanks,

SadLawyer
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In re: getting an LLM as a way to increase job prospects, do you think geographic location makes a difference? For instance, I am in Minnesota, so perhaps a LLM from NYU would mean a lot more in Minneapolis than it would in NYC or DC to employers?



Sorry, I don't follow your logic. Why would an LLM from NYU mean a lot more to MN employers than NY or DC due to geographic location? NYU wold be impressive because it is a higher ranked school than those in Minnesota.

Also, if we are still talking specifically about a Tax LLM, Minnesota is not a major tax law market, so I don't think a Tax LLM from anywhere would really help you if you were deadset on practicing law in Minnesota.

<blockquote>
In re: getting an LLM as a way to increase job prospects, do you think geographic location makes a difference? For instance, I am in Minnesota, so perhaps a LLM from NYU would mean a lot more in Minneapolis than it would in NYC or DC to employers?

</blockquote>

Sorry, I don't follow your logic. Why would an LLM from NYU mean a lot more to MN employers than NY or DC due to geographic location? NYU wold be impressive because it is a higher ranked school than those in Minnesota.

Also, if we are still talking specifically about a Tax LLM, Minnesota is not a major tax law market, so I don't think a Tax LLM from anywhere would really help you if you were deadset on practicing law in Minnesota.
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SadLawyer

I meant that the MN market is a lot less competitive than NYC and DC, so perhaps and NYU LLM would carry more weight in MN. E.g. a graduate from a third tier law school with an LLM from NYU would probably be able to get a decent job easier in Minneapolis than NYC or DC, because NYC and DC probably have a lot of tier two or tier one lawyers competing for jobs, and many with tax LLM's from top LLM programs. I don't know though, just a thought. I hope that helped clarify things.

Thanks for your input. Where do you think the best tax markets are, besides NYC and DC? Thanks for the advice.

I meant that the MN market is a lot less competitive than NYC and DC, so perhaps and NYU LLM would carry more weight in MN. E.g. a graduate from a third tier law school with an LLM from NYU would probably be able to get a decent job easier in Minneapolis than NYC or DC, because NYC and DC probably have a lot of tier two or tier one lawyers competing for jobs, and many with tax LLM's from top LLM programs. I don't know though, just a thought. I hope that helped clarify things.

Thanks for your input. Where do you think the best tax markets are, besides NYC and DC? Thanks for the advice.
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I'm a big LLMG reader but I've never left a comment... Now that I'm in I do !
The waiting was just torture...

Btw I just created a facebook group so we can meet !

I'm a big LLMG reader but I've never left a comment... Now that I'm in I do !
The waiting was just torture...

Btw I just created a facebook group so we can meet !
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congratulations.

when did you get accepted? were you on the waitlist? also, what are your credentials?

congratulations.

when did you get accepted? were you on the waitlist? also, what are your credentials?
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nicolas_a

tax prof blog is the best source I've read so far

tax prof blog is the best source I've read so far
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Waiting2010,

June 12

I was, actually my application got "delayed" because of some missing materials

JD from a Tier 1 law school in 2005 with three tax classes (A, A-, B), 2 rec from tax Profs, 1 rec from tax Partner at Weil

Here's the group: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=88931343380&ref=share

Waiting2010,

June 12

I was, actually my application got "delayed" because of some missing materials

JD from a Tier 1 law school in 2005 with three tax classes (A, A-, B), 2 rec from tax Profs, 1 rec from tax Partner at Weil

Here's the group: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=88931343380&ref=share
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