Columbia LL.M. Applicants 2022-2023


Sherlocked

People who apply for Executive get both Traditional and Executive decisions together. So this person must have gotten into both and only mentioned one since LLMGuide tracker doesnt have an option for Executive LLM. 

I'm sure all other decisions will come at the same time around 15th. 

People who apply for Executive get both Traditional and Executive decisions together. So this person must have gotten into both and only mentioned one since LLMGuide tracker doesnt have an option for Executive LLM.&nbsp;<br><br>I'm sure all other decisions will come at the same time around 15th.&nbsp;
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e93

I've noticed that quite a few people with insufficient TOEFL scores were called for an interview. Would anyone seem to know of someone who was invited for an interview and had a TOEFL waiver granted by the University ?

I happen to have been granted a waiver but did not receive an interview call. How does it work ? Would someone care to elaborate.

I've noticed that quite a few people with insufficient TOEFL scores were called for an interview. Would anyone seem to know of someone who was invited for an interview and had a TOEFL waiver granted by the University ?<br><br>I happen to have been granted a waiver but did not receive an interview call. How does it work ? Would someone care to elaborate.
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Sherlocked

Applicants are invited for interviews when CLS is not convinced of their language proficiency based on the TOEFL score and/or application materials. Not everyone who has a low TOEFL score may be invited for an interview (since their application might reflect the expected language of proficiency) and similarly, someone who met the minimum threshold could still be invited for an interview, if the application materials lead to some doubt about language skills (although this case is unlikely).

In cases of waivers, CLS only grants one when it is convinced that your language skills hold you in good stead to participate successfully and productively in all aspects of the graduate program, based on the information you have submitted in the waiver request form. If there is any doubt, they would decline the waiver request in the first place itself. Clearly, for anyone who has been given a waiver, it is highly unlikely to be also invited for an interview at a later stage.

So no need to worry. Not being invited for an interview doesn't mean anything for anyone except for the fact that your TOEFL/language skills are not in doubt. Other theories are mere speculations. Good luck! :)

[Edited by Sherlocked on Mar 06, 2022]

Applicants are invited for interviews when CLS is not convinced of their language proficiency based on the TOEFL score and/or application materials. Not everyone who has a low TOEFL score may be invited for an interview (since their application might reflect the expected language of proficiency) and similarly, someone who met the minimum threshold could still be invited for an interview, if the application materials lead to some doubt about language skills (although this case is unlikely).<br><br>In cases of waivers, CLS only grants one when it is convinced that your language skills hold you in good stead to participate successfully and productively in all aspects of the graduate program, based on the information you have submitted in the waiver request form. If there is any doubt, they would decline the waiver request in the first place itself. Clearly, for anyone who has been given a waiver, it is highly unlikely to be also invited for an interview at a later stage.<br><br>So no need to worry. Not being invited for an interview doesn't mean anything for anyone except for the fact that your TOEFL/language skills are not in doubt. Other theories are mere speculations. Good luck! :)
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T2732

Are financial aid decisions released along with admissions?

Are financial aid decisions released along with admissions?
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Sherlocked

Financial aid decisions usually come out in the week after the admissions decisions and the Fellowship decisions come in the week after the general Financial aid decisions. Everyone will be informed if they got a scholarship or not. :)

Financial aid decisions usually come out in the week after the admissions decisions and the Fellowship decisions come in the week after the general Financial aid decisions. Everyone will be informed if they got a scholarship or not. :)
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meipot

Financial aid decisions usually come out in the week after the admissions decisions and the Fellowship decisions come in the week after the general Financial aid decisions. Everyone will be informed if they got a scholarship or not. :)


hi Sherlocked - thanks for the insightful info! I wonder if you know about CLS’s deferral policy? Is it reluctant to grant one? 

[quote]Financial aid decisions usually come out in the week after the admissions decisions and the Fellowship decisions come in the week after the general Financial aid decisions. Everyone will be informed if they got a scholarship or not. :) [/quote]<br><br>hi Sherlocked - thanks for the insightful info! I wonder if you know about CLS’s deferral policy? Is it reluctant to grant one?&nbsp;<br>
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Sherlocked

Hi Meipot! 

CLS has not been very strict with deferrals historically as long as you have some proof of unforeseeable circumstances - medical situation, financial difficulty or something beyond your control that could not have been reasonably anticipated while applying for the program. A request for shifting to the next year merely as a matter of convenience without any underlying reason is unlikely to be viewed favourably. They review the request and supporting documents on a case to case basis.

Having said that, in 2020, CLS was compelled to be relatively stricter as a lot of people requested deferrals due to Covid. Resultantly, there were applicants who were unable to get a deferral despite a genuine reason (although 100 odd people still got it). For applicants, who have been declined a deferral, CLS (like most schools) would usually offer a free re-application for the next cycle. [A deferral is still preferable. I remember one applicant who was admitted in 2020, took the free reapplication for the next cycle since she was denied a deferral and was not admitted in 2021 :( ]

In 2021, it was back to normal and I know several people who got deferrals. Based on that, predicting for this year, I do not think that it should very different and it should be possible to get a deferral if you have a cogent reason and there is no mass-deferral happening again.

Nevertheless, if you are strongly thinking about a deferral already, I would recommend keeping a deferral request letter and supporting documents ready in the coming week. It would be best to submit your request at the earliest, once the decisions are out, so that the cohort trend doesn't affect your individual case.

Good luck! :)

[Edited by Sherlocked on Mar 06, 2022]

Hi Meipot!&nbsp;<br><br>CLS has not been very strict with deferrals historically as long as you have some proof of unforeseeable circumstances - medical situation, financial difficulty or something beyond your control that could not have been reasonably anticipated while applying for the program. A request for shifting to the next year merely as a matter of convenience without any underlying reason is unlikely to be viewed favourably. They review the request and supporting documents on a case to case basis.<br><div><br>Having said that, in 2020, CLS was compelled to be relatively stricter as a lot of people requested deferrals due to Covid. Resultantly, there were applicants who were unable to get a deferral despite a genuine reason (although 100 odd people still got it). For applicants, who have been declined a deferral, CLS (like most schools) would usually offer a free re-application for the next cycle. [A deferral is still preferable. I remember one applicant who was admitted in 2020, took the free reapplication for the next cycle since she was denied a deferral and was not admitted in 2021 :( ]<br><br>In 2021, it was back to normal and I know several people who got deferrals.&nbsp;Based on that, predicting for this year, I do not think that it should very different and it should be possible to get a deferral if you have a cogent reason and there is no mass-deferral happening again.<br><br>Nevertheless, if you are strongly thinking about a deferral already, I would recommend keeping a deferral request letter and supporting documents ready in the coming week. It would be best to submit your request at the earliest, once the decisions are out, so that the cohort trend doesn't affect your individual case.<br><br>Good luck! :)</div>
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Adam Lu


Thank you Sherlocked! 
I was wondering does that mean if an applicant relieves the interviewer's doubt about his/her English spoken ability during the interview, he/she will usually receive an offer after the interview? Thank you!





Applicants are invited for interviews when CLS is not convinced of their language proficiency based on the TOEFL score and/or application materials. Not everyone who has a low TOEFL score may be invited for an interview (since their application might reflect the expected language of proficiency) and similarly, someone who met the minimum threshold could still be invited for an interview, if the application materials lead to some doubt about language skills (although this case is unlikely).

In cases of waivers, CLS only grants one when it is convinced that your language skills hold you in good stead to participate successfully and productively in all aspects of the graduate program, based on the information you have submitted in the waiver request form. If there is any doubt, they would decline the waiver request in the first place itself. Clearly, for anyone who has been given a waiver, it is highly unlikely to be also invited for an interview at a later stage.

So no need to worry. Not being invited for an interview doesn't mean anything for anyone except for the fact that your TOEFL/language skills are not in doubt. Other theories are mere speculations. Good luck! :)

<br>Thank you Sherlocked!&nbsp;<br>I was wondering does that mean if an applicant relieves the interviewer's doubt about his/her English spoken ability during the interview, he/she will usually receive an offer after the interview? Thank you!<br><div><br></div><div>
<br><br><br>[quote]Applicants are invited for interviews when CLS is not convinced of their language proficiency based on the TOEFL score and/or application materials. Not everyone who has a low TOEFL score may be invited for an interview (since their application might reflect the expected language of proficiency) and similarly, someone who met the minimum threshold could still be invited for an interview, if the application materials lead to some doubt about language skills (although this case is unlikely).<br><br>In cases of waivers, CLS only grants one when it is convinced that your language skills hold you in good stead to participate successfully and productively in all aspects of the graduate program, based on the information you have submitted in the waiver request form. If there is any doubt, they would decline the waiver request in the first place itself. Clearly, for anyone who has been given a waiver, it is highly unlikely to be also invited for an interview at a later stage.<br><br>So no need to worry. Not being invited for an interview doesn't mean anything for anyone except for the fact that your TOEFL/language skills are not in doubt. Other theories are mere speculations. Good luck! :) [/quote]</div>
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meipot

Hi Meipot! 

CLS has not been very strict with deferrals historically as long as you have some proof of unforeseeable circumstances - medical situation, financial crunch or something beyond your control that could not have been reasonably anticipated while applying for the program. A request for shifting to the next year merely as a matter of convenience without any underlying reason is unlikely to be viewed favourably. They review the request and supporting documents on a case to case basis.

Having said that, in 2020, CLS was compelled to be relatively stricter as a lot of people requested deferrals due to Covid. Resultantly, there were applicants who were unable to get a deferral despite a genuine reason (although 100 odd people still got it). For applicants, who have been declined a deferral, CLS (like most schools) would usually offer a free re-application for the next cycle. [A deferral is still preferable. I remember one applicant who was admitted in 2020, took the free reapplication for the next cycle since she was denied a deferral and was not admitted in 2021 :( ]

In 2021, it was back to normal and I know several people who got deferrals. Based on that, predicting for this year, I do not think that it should very different and it should be possible to get a deferral if you have a cogent reason and there is no mass-deferral happening again.

Nevertheless, if you are strongly thinking about a deferral already, I would recommend keeping a deferral request letter and supporting documents ready in the coming week. It would be best to submit your request at the earliest, once the decisions are out, so that the cohort trend doesn't affect your individual case.

Good luck! :)


Thanks Sherlocked for the comprehensive answer! Good luck to your application this cycle. I believe someone who has a kind heart like you will get the result they want :)))

[Edited by meipot on Mar 07, 2022]

[quote]Hi Meipot!&nbsp;<br><br>CLS has not been very strict with deferrals historically as long as you have some proof of unforeseeable circumstances - medical situation, financial crunch or something beyond your control that could not have been reasonably anticipated while applying for the program. A request for shifting to the next year merely as a matter of convenience without any underlying reason is unlikely to be viewed favourably. They review the request and supporting documents on a case to case basis.<br><div><br>Having said that, in 2020, CLS was compelled to be relatively stricter as a lot of people requested deferrals due to Covid. Resultantly, there were applicants who were unable to get a deferral despite a genuine reason (although 100 odd people still got it). For applicants, who have been declined a deferral, CLS (like most schools) would usually offer a free re-application for the next cycle. [A deferral is still preferable. I remember one applicant who was admitted in 2020, took the free reapplication for the next cycle since she was denied a deferral and was not admitted in 2021 :( ]<br><br>In 2021, it was back to normal and I know several people who got deferrals.&nbsp;Based on that, predicting for this year, I do not think that it should very different and it should be possible to get a deferral if you have a cogent reason and there is no mass-deferral happening again.<br><br>Nevertheless, if you are strongly thinking about a deferral already, I would recommend keeping a deferral request letter and supporting documents ready in the coming week. It would be best to submit your request at the earliest, once the decisions are out, so that the cohort trend doesn't affect your individual case.<br><br>Good luck! :)</div> [/quote]<br><br>Thanks Sherlocked for the comprehensive answer! Good luck to your application this cycle. I believe someone who has a kind heart like you will get the result they want :)))
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rp1803

Hi everyone! Just wondering if anyone knows if we can expect to hear back from CLS on the 15th or if it could be anytime before that. Thanks a lot and good luck to everyone!

Hi everyone! Just wondering if anyone knows if we can expect to hear back from CLS on the 15th or if it could be anytime before that. Thanks a lot and good luck to everyone!
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chamonix20...

Since they’re running English language interviews until Friday I would say we won’t hear til next week at the earliest 

Since they’re running English language interviews until Friday I would say we won’t hear til next week at the earliest&nbsp;
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GCD

Decisions are out!!!

Decisions are out!!!
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Adam Lu

Admitted!!! 

Admitted!!!&nbsp;
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GCD

I´m in as well :)

I´m in as well :)
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Just received the email: admitted!!!

Just received the email: admitted!!!
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Admitted! Good luck everyone!

Admitted! Good luck everyone!
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Slinky

Admitted! :) Good luck everyone! 

Admitted! :) Good luck everyone!&nbsp;
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TCK

Admitted, Good luck everyone!

Admitted, Good luck everyone!
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koala1989

Just admitted! Good luck everyone! 1f60a

Just admitted! Good luck everyone!&nbsp;:blush:
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rp1803

Admitted!!!! Congrats to everyone admitted!

Admitted!!!! Congrats to everyone admitted!
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