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amerfrance

I think you're right. In general, I believe that "assez bien" is awarded to the top 15%. At Paris 2, it would be even higher though, since it is given at 13/20 and not 12/20 (If I'm not mistaken). In France, there is a huge difference between a 10/20 and a 12-13/20. Let's hope the US schools see that...

I think you're right. In general, I believe that "assez bien" is awarded to the top 15%. At Paris 2, it would be even higher though, since it is given at 13/20 and not 12/20 (If I'm not mistaken). In France, there is a huge difference between a 10/20 and a 12-13/20. Let's hope the US schools see that...
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proBR

My university required 13 to get assez bien too. But I'm not quite sure that American universities give much value to a GPA of 14 something, particularly when funding and scholarship are requested.

My university required 13 to get assez bien too. But I'm not quite sure that American universities give much value to a GPA of 14 something, particularly when funding and scholarship are requested.
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amerfrance

I think US schools, at least the decent ones, have some vague idea that French schools grade severely. I don't know to what extent, however. To get a 80% average from a US school is not as difficult as obtaining a 16/20 average from France. Just apply to several schools and see what happens. That's all you can do! Best of luck.

I think US schools, at least the decent ones, have some vague idea that French schools grade severely. I don't know to what extent, however. To get a 80% average from a US school is not as difficult as obtaining a 16/20 average from France. Just apply to several schools and see what happens. That's all you can do! Best of luck.
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proBR

Let's hope for that! Best of luck to you, too!

Let's hope for that! Best of luck to you, too!
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Aky

I hate the way they grade in France

In my University (Jean Moulin Lyon III) grades are like some other French universities (Paris 1, 2) : at 13/20, 15/20 and 17/20

I will take the example of the 3rd-year law degree ("Licence en droit":
-On 1600 students the first year, only 1 had more than 15/20 at the end of 3rd year, and the grade "Bien" (good).
And it wasn't me :'(

lol

I hate the way they grade in France

In my University (Jean Moulin Lyon III) grades are like some other French universities (Paris 1, 2) : at 13/20, 15/20 and 17/20

I will take the example of the 3rd-year law degree ("Licence en droit":
-On 1600 students the first year, only 1 had more than 15/20 at the end of 3rd year, and the grade "Bien" (good).
And it wasn't me :'(

lol
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proBR

That's why it's so hard to rank ourselves where there is no official ranking...

That's why it's so hard to rank ourselves where there is no official ranking...
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amerfrance

1 in 1600 in amazing. I asked my school what the average grades were and was able to get a good idea of my rank. Whether or not this unofficial ranking will be taken into consideration by the US schools is another question, though!

1 in 1600 in amazing. I asked my school what the average grades were and was able to get a good idea of my rank. Whether or not this unofficial ranking will be taken into consideration by the US schools is another question, though!
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Aussiegirl

Hi - just thought I'd offer my 2 cents. I applied to various LL.M. programs back in 2006 with the following background: went to a top Australian law school, my law degree grades were deemed "above average" by LSAC and, although I hadn't actually practised as a lawyer in Australia, I had worked as a paralegal for a local Sydney firm throughout university and had then gone on to work as a paralegal for one of the top Wall Street firms (in their New York office). My LORs were written by a partner at the Wall Street firm and one of my law school professors. I applied to and was accepted by: Columbia, Georgetown, UPenn, UChicago, Northwestern and UVA. I was rejected by Harvard, NYU, and UMichgan. I too, for personal reasons ended up not going but deferred my place at Columbia. In the end, I didn't go but have applied again this year and now have 3.5 more years under my belt (I spent those years practising as a project finance lawyer in the London office of another Wall Street firm). Sorry for the long-winded message here but the point I wanted to make was that "above average" from LSAC doesn't preclude you from getting into good schools. Hope this is helpful!

Hi - just thought I'd offer my 2 cents. I applied to various LL.M. programs back in 2006 with the following background: went to a top Australian law school, my law degree grades were deemed "above average" by LSAC and, although I hadn't actually practised as a lawyer in Australia, I had worked as a paralegal for a local Sydney firm throughout university and had then gone on to work as a paralegal for one of the top Wall Street firms (in their New York office). My LORs were written by a partner at the Wall Street firm and one of my law school professors. I applied to and was accepted by: Columbia, Georgetown, UPenn, UChicago, Northwestern and UVA. I was rejected by Harvard, NYU, and UMichgan. I too, for personal reasons ended up not going but deferred my place at Columbia. In the end, I didn't go but have applied again this year and now have 3.5 more years under my belt (I spent those years practising as a project finance lawyer in the London office of another Wall Street firm). Sorry for the long-winded message here but the point I wanted to make was that "above average" from LSAC doesn't preclude you from getting into good schools. Hope this is helpful!
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Aky

Aussiegirl

Thank you so much for your answer :)

And : Columbia, Georgetown, UPenn, Chicago, Northwestern.... Dreams of all students ! Congratulations !

I hope you'll be admitted this year too, and maybe you'll be even in the one's who have rejected you last time ! ;)

Aussiegirl

Thank you so much for your answer :)

And : Columbia, Georgetown, UPenn, Chicago, Northwestern.... Dreams of all students ! Congratulations !

I hope you'll be admitted this year too, and maybe you'll be even in the one's who have rejected you last time ! ;)
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Aussiegirl

Aky - thanks so much for your response. I've got my fingers crossed that I get in again this year but there appears to be an element of luck involved so I just have to be patient and wait! I didn't apply to as many schools this time, as I have a clearer idea of what I want to study. I ended up applying to Columbia, NYU, Georgetown, UVA, Duke and UPenn as they all have good international law programs (I decided not to apply to U Michigan again as I have decided I don't want to live in Ann Arbor, as lovely as the school itself is). I am not sure if I will be lucky enough to get into various LL.M. programs again this time. Unfortunately, I only decided to apply on the 6th of November by which point I had missed most of the early review cut offs so I guess I just have to wait and see. Good luck with your apps!

Aky - thanks so much for your response. I've got my fingers crossed that I get in again this year but there appears to be an element of luck involved so I just have to be patient and wait! I didn't apply to as many schools this time, as I have a clearer idea of what I want to study. I ended up applying to Columbia, NYU, Georgetown, UVA, Duke and UPenn as they all have good international law programs (I decided not to apply to U Michigan again as I have decided I don't want to live in Ann Arbor, as lovely as the school itself is). I am not sure if I will be lucky enough to get into various LL.M. programs again this time. Unfortunately, I only decided to apply on the 6th of November by which point I had missed most of the early review cut offs so I guess I just have to wait and see. Good luck with your apps!
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