UCL and KCL - what exactly is a "conditional offer"?


silver
Hi everyone,

I was recently admitted to both UCL and KCL, with both offers having a condition attached. The condition for UCL is to graduate with an overall B from my Canadian Juris Doctor programme, and the condition for KCL is to grade with an overall B+.

Does anyone have any experience with conditional acceptances from these unis? How strict are they? I find that law school grades can be a complete surprise, and therefore that it is entirely conceivable that I could have a bad day at and exam and obliterate any hope of meeting either UCL's or KCL's condition. Do they strictly adhere to the numbers on the condition? What possibility is there of not being admitted in the end if I fall significantly short of what is asked for?

Although I appreciate all responses, I would especially appreciate responses informed by actual experience.
Hi everyone,

I was recently admitted to both UCL and KCL, with both offers having a condition attached. The condition for UCL is to graduate with an overall B from my Canadian Juris Doctor programme, and the condition for KCL is to grade with an overall B+.

Does anyone have any experience with conditional acceptances from these unis? How strict are they? I find that law school grades can be a complete surprise, and therefore that it is entirely conceivable that I could have a bad day at and exam and obliterate any hope of meeting either UCL's or KCL's condition. Do they strictly adhere to the numbers on the condition? What possibility is there of not being admitted in the end if I fall significantly short of what is asked for?

Although I appreciate all responses, I would especially appreciate responses informed by actual experience.
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P_Martini
Congratulations on your admissions.

My understanding is that conditions are usually set at or very near to your current grade point average and that they are meant to be attainable.

I do understand that marks can be a complete surprise, particularly at some Canadian law schools. Feel free to send me a personal message from your profile. I may be able to give you some more information based on my own experience. However, one thing I did was to print out a current transcript and spend a few hours with a calculator playing around with the numbers. I think you will find that, after two and a half years of law school (and while nothing is guaranteed), you really have to have an out-of-character performance on just about every exam you write this semester to change your overall GPA dramatically. That is not to say it can't happen. But, it is to say that if you double-down on your effort, the most likely outcome is that nothing will change in your overall standing and you will satisfy the condition.
Congratulations on your admissions.

My understanding is that conditions are usually set at or very near to your current grade point average and that they are meant to be attainable.

I do understand that marks can be a complete surprise, particularly at some Canadian law schools. Feel free to send me a personal message from your profile. I may be able to give you some more information based on my own experience. However, one thing I did was to print out a current transcript and spend a few hours with a calculator playing around with the numbers. I think you will find that, after two and a half years of law school (and while nothing is guaranteed), you really have to have an out-of-character performance on just about every exam you write this semester to change your overall GPA dramatically. That is not to say it can't happen. But, it is to say that if you double-down on your effort, the most likely outcome is that nothing will change in your overall standing and you will satisfy the condition.
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silver
Thanks for your thoughts P_Martini. I think you're probably right in most cases, but in my case my GPA is currently under the condition (after using a calculator and talking to my guidance counselor), and it looks like it's going to be bloody tough to get up to the condition, especially with only one semester more to go. Maybe it would be more illustrative to ask if anyone here has ever been in a situation where their offer was rescinded for not having met the condition. Has anyone ever been in this situation? I'm just trying to get an idea of what the likelihood is that my condition will be rescinded for failing to meet the condition.
Thanks for your thoughts P_Martini. I think you're probably right in most cases, but in my case my GPA is currently under the condition (after using a calculator and talking to my guidance counselor), and it looks like it's going to be bloody tough to get up to the condition, especially with only one semester more to go. Maybe it would be more illustrative to ask if anyone here has ever been in a situation where their offer was rescinded for not having met the condition. Has anyone ever been in this situation? I'm just trying to get an idea of what the likelihood is that my condition will be rescinded for failing to meet the condition.
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Villieboy
Thanks for your thoughts P_Martini. I think you're probably right in most cases, but in my case my GPA is currently under the condition (after using a calculator and talking to my guidance counselor), and it looks like it's going to be bloody tough to get up to the condition, especially with only one semester more to go. Maybe it would be more illustrative to ask if anyone here has ever been in a situation where their offer was rescinded for not having met the condition. Has anyone ever been in this situation? I'm just trying to get an idea of what the likelihood is that my condition will be rescinded for failing to meet the condition.


A friend of mine, got an offer from UCL last year. He was on his last semester with the GPA of 2.75. The condition that he got was GPA of 3.50. We were shock. There's no way that he will achieve that high. I don't understand why UCL offer something like that. However, he has a great profile. At the end he got a very good job, so he will wait for next year to apply again.
<blockquote>Thanks for your thoughts P_Martini. I think you're probably right in most cases, but in my case my GPA is currently under the condition (after using a calculator and talking to my guidance counselor), and it looks like it's going to be bloody tough to get up to the condition, especially with only one semester more to go. Maybe it would be more illustrative to ask if anyone here has ever been in a situation where their offer was rescinded for not having met the condition. Has anyone ever been in this situation? I'm just trying to get an idea of what the likelihood is that my condition will be rescinded for failing to meet the condition.</blockquote>

A friend of mine, got an offer from UCL last year. He was on his last semester with the GPA of 2.75. The condition that he got was GPA of 3.50. We were shock. There's no way that he will achieve that high. I don't understand why UCL offer something like that. However, he has a great profile. At the end he got a very good job, so he will wait for next year to apply again.
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