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Ribben
Hei, what do you guys think my chances would be to get into a competitive UK LLM (Ox., Cam., LSE, UCL, KCL) with the following CV:
- Current GPA: 3.95 (5.89 out of 6 in our grade system)
- My references have ranked me top 5% (there is no official ranking in our school (same thing for other schools in my country)
- My Law School definitely has a good reputation but we dont have Law School Rankings or "Tiers" in Switzerland.
- My references should be at least solid.

Any thoughts?


Bit of a pointless thread mate. Why don't you just try? Whether or not we say you have 91% or 65% chance of getting in, the only way to really find out is to try. Good luck!
[quote]Hei, what do you guys think my chances would be to get into a competitive UK LLM (Ox., Cam., LSE, UCL, KCL) with the following CV:
- Current GPA: 3.95 (5.89 out of 6 in our grade system)
- My references have ranked me top 5% (there is no official ranking in our school (same thing for other schools in my country)
- My Law School definitely has a good reputation but we dont have Law School Rankings or "Tiers" in Switzerland.
- My references should be at least solid.

Any thoughts?[/quote]

Bit of a pointless thread mate. Why don't you just try? Whether or not we say you have 91% or 65% chance of getting in, the only way to really find out is to try. Good luck!
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darthsid
Hei, what do you guys think my chances would be to get into a competitive UK LLM (Ox., Cam., LSE, UCL, KCL) with the following CV:
- Current GPA: 3.95 (5.89 out of 6 in our grade system)
- My references have ranked me top 5% (there is no official ranking in our school (same thing for other schools in my country)
- My Law School definitely has a good reputation but we dont have Law School Rankings or "Tiers" in Switzerland.
- My references should be at least solid.

Any thoughts?


Bit of a pointless thread mate. Why don't you just try? Whether or not we say you have 91% or 65% chance of getting in, the only way to really find out is to try. Good luck!


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[quote][quote]Hei, what do you guys think my chances would be to get into a competitive UK LLM (Ox., Cam., LSE, UCL, KCL) with the following CV:
- Current GPA: 3.95 (5.89 out of 6 in our grade system)
- My references have ranked me top 5% (there is no official ranking in our school (same thing for other schools in my country)
- My Law School definitely has a good reputation but we dont have Law School Rankings or "Tiers" in Switzerland.
- My references should be at least solid.

Any thoughts?[/quote]

Bit of a pointless thread mate. Why don't you just try? Whether or not we say you have 91% or 65% chance of getting in, the only way to really find out is to try. Good luck![/quote]

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Harvey Spe...
I think LSE/UCL/KCL is a safe bet and you stand a good chance of getting into Oxbridge as well. Try it all. ;)

Hei, what do you guys think my chances would be to get into a competitive UK LLM (Ox., Cam., LSE, UCL, KCL) with the following CV:
- Current GPA: 3.95 (5.89 out of 6 in our grade system)
- My references have ranked me top 5% (there is no official ranking in our school (same thing for other schools in my country)
- My Law School definitely has a good reputation but we dont have Law School Rankings or "Tiers" in Switzerland.
- My references should be at least solid.

Any thoughts?
I think LSE/UCL/KCL is a safe bet and you stand a good chance of getting into Oxbridge as well. Try it all. ;)

[quote]Hei, what do you guys think my chances would be to get into a competitive UK LLM (Ox., Cam., LSE, UCL, KCL) with the following CV:
- Current GPA: 3.95 (5.89 out of 6 in our grade system)
- My references have ranked me top 5% (there is no official ranking in our school (same thing for other schools in my country)
- My Law School definitely has a good reputation but we dont have Law School Rankings or "Tiers" in Switzerland.
- My references should be at least solid.

Any thoughts?[/quote]
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bclmjur
Hei, what do you guys think my chances would be to get into a competitive UK LLM (Ox., Cam., LSE, UCL, KCL) with the following CV:
- Current GPA: 3.95 (5.89 out of 6 in our grade system)
- My references have ranked me top 5% (there is no official ranking in our school (same thing for other schools in my country)
- My Law School definitely has a good reputation but we dont have Law School Rankings or "Tiers" in Switzerland.
- My references should be at least solid.

Any thoughts?


Probably based on this year's cohort (I'm doing the BCL/MJur right now).
[quote]Hei, what do you guys think my chances would be to get into a competitive UK LLM (Ox., Cam., LSE, UCL, KCL) with the following CV:
- Current GPA: 3.95 (5.89 out of 6 in our grade system)
- My references have ranked me top 5% (there is no official ranking in our school (same thing for other schools in my country)
- My Law School definitely has a good reputation but we dont have Law School Rankings or "Tiers" in Switzerland.
- My references should be at least solid.

Any thoughts?[/quote]

Probably based on this year's cohort (I'm doing the BCL/MJur right now).
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SwissGuy
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VisionMed
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SwissGuy
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VisionMed
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SwissGuy
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VisionMed
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Ribben
To be honest, I kinda lied, because I already applied but I am now very worried about my chances. It was really just my own hubris applying...


Stop worrying. It won't change the outcome of your application, but it will make the wait so much more frustrating
[quote]To be honest, I kinda lied, because I already applied but I am now very worried about my chances. It was really just my own hubris applying...[/quote]

Stop worrying. It won't change the outcome of your application, but it will make the wait so much more frustrating
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LeMecFR
A related question: Do you nice people out there think it is enough to be top 5% to have chance or is it necessary to be in the top 3-2-1% range somewhere?

Thanks! Cheers!
A related question: Do you nice people out there think it is enough to be top 5% to have chance or is it necessary to be in the top 3-2-1% range somewhere?

Thanks! Cheers!
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A related question: Do you nice people out there think it is enough to be top 5% to have chance or is it necessary to be in the top 3-2-1% range somewhere?

Thanks! Cheers!


I have read on this forum that you should be more or less in the running if you are in the top 5%. Is this true?
[quote]A related question: Do you nice people out there think it is enough to be top 5% to have chance or is it necessary to be in the top 3-2-1% range somewhere?

Thanks! Cheers!
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I have read on this forum that you should be more or less in the running if you are in the top 5%. Is this true?
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Ribben
A related question: Do you nice people out there think it is enough to be top 5% to have chance or is it necessary to be in the top 3-2-1% range somewhere?

Thanks! Cheers!


I have read on this forum that you should be more or less in the running if you are in the top 5%. Is this true?


I think that question is rather abstract. You need to specify. There are other variables that are as important as your percentile, such as:
1) how many people were in your year? If you're top 5 percent but you graduated with only 50 in your year, that's really not as impressive as someone who made top 5 out of 500 people
2) what is your university's reputation? I assume that a lower reputed university would require a higher relative ranking
[quote][quote]A related question: Do you nice people out there think it is enough to be top 5% to have chance or is it necessary to be in the top 3-2-1% range somewhere?

Thanks! Cheers!
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I have read on this forum that you should be more or less in the running if you are in the top 5%. Is this true?[/quote]

I think that question is rather abstract. You need to specify. There are other variables that are as important as your percentile, such as:
1) how many people were in your year? If you're top 5 percent but you graduated with only 50 in your year, that's really not as impressive as someone who made top 5 out of 500 people
2) what is your university's reputation? I assume that a lower reputed university would require a higher relative ranking
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SwissGuy
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Mombastic


I have read on this forum that you should be more or less in the running if you are in the top 5%. Is this true?


I think that question is rather abstract. You need to specify. There are other variables that are as important as your percentile, such as:
1) how many people were in your year? If you're top 5 percent but you graduated with only 50 in your year, that's really not as impressive as someone who made top 5 out of 500 people
2) what is your university's reputation? I assume that a lower reputed university would require a higher relative ranking


Ok, I'm really bad at math so could you explain 1) again? I mean being in the top 5% should be just as hard in a very large class as in a small one, or not? In the small class you have less competition but there are also less spots in the top 5%. In the large class you have more competition but also more spots in the top 5%....
I would see how it is harder to get a top 5 *rank* in a larger class, but not when we talk about percentage...

Can anyone explain this to me like I am 5? :-)


This is not about being bad at maths. Knowing how to calculate the % of X is pure general knowledge, like being able to say instantaneously the result of 12x12 or 9+1. Everyone knows (or should know) how much they stack up...
The formula is 5% x (the number of students in your class).

You're right. If there's a larger cohort, there's a larger group of students who graduate in top 5%, thus more intense competition. If there's a smaller one, it's vice-versa.

It's not about who's in the rank, I.e. you're the 4th best and I'm the 5th, and after me the rest doesn't matter.

Let's say you have 220 students in your class. 5%x220=11. So 11 people are in top 5%. Hope this helps.

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[quote][quote][quote][quote]A related question: Do you nice people out there think it is enough to be top 5% to have chance or is it necessary to be in the top 3-2-1% range somewhere?

Thanks! Cheers!
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I have read on this forum that you should be more or less in the running if you are in the top 5%. Is this true?[/quote]

I think that question is rather abstract. You need to specify. There are other variables that are as important as your percentile, such as:
1) how many people were in your year? If you're top 5 percent but you graduated with only 50 in your year, that's really not as impressive as someone who made top 5 out of 500 people
2) what is your university's reputation? I assume that a lower reputed university would require a higher relative ranking
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Ok, I'm really bad at math so could you explain 1) again? I mean being in the top 5% should be just as hard in a very large class as in a small one, or not? In the small class you have less competition but there are also less spots in the top 5%. In the large class you have more competition but also more spots in the top 5%....
I would see how it is harder to get a top 5 *rank* in a larger class, but not when we talk about percentage...

Can anyone explain this to me like I am 5? :-)[/quote]

This is not about being bad at maths. Knowing how to calculate the % of X is pure general knowledge, like being able to say instantaneously the result of 12x12 or 9+1. Everyone knows (or should know) how much they stack up...
The formula is 5% x (the number of students in your class).

You're right. If there's a larger cohort, there's a larger group of students who graduate in top 5%, thus more intense competition. If there's a smaller one, it's vice-versa.

It's not about who's in the rank, I.e. you're the 4th best and I'm the 5th, and after me the rest doesn't matter.

Let's say you have 220 students in your class. 5%x220=11. So 11 people are in top 5%. Hope this helps.
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Thanks for the interesting answers. In the end there is not anyting you can do about it...
Thanks for the interesting answers. In the end there is not anyting you can do about it...
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Mombastic
Thanks for the interesting answers. In the end there is not anyting you can do about it...


Yeah. And to be fair, as long as you fall within that percentage you should be fine. In the end that's what they are generally looking for.
[quote]Thanks for the interesting answers. In the end there is not anyting you can do about it...[/quote]

Yeah. And to be fair, as long as you fall within that percentage you should be fine. In the end that's what they are generally looking for.
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