Oxford BCL/MJur 2013-2014


oi210
Got an offer today, got to get a 1st

Only 10% of the battle tho its effectively meaningless without a scholarship ha
Got an offer today, got to get a 1st

Only 10% of the battle tho its effectively meaningless without a scholarship ha
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oi210
What colleges did everyone apply to?
What colleges did everyone apply to?
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Mark W

I think you will find the exam standard is suppose to be even across the board - we have very few Firsts each year at Swansea, last year there were only 15 out of about 300 students. Everything is externally double marked, etc. Many of our lecturers are Oxford/Cambridge grads. Perhaps at a law firm a 68% at Cambridge would be looked upon as superior to a 68% at Swansea, but I can assure you that my final year at Swansea has been nothing short of rigorous.


I wasn't having a dig at Swansea at all, it's ranked higher than the university I'm attending, my point was that it is difficult to compare the top first from university x (including but not necessarily restricted to Swansea) to a top 2:1 from Cambridge.

Maybe the standard is supposed to be even across the board but it certainly isn't - I have 81% average in my first two years. Obviously I wouldn't get 81% at Cambridge, no-one does. Would I get above 68%? Certainly possible. If the standard happens to be identical at Swansea and Cambridge then that was just bad luck on my part - I picked it as an example with no particular knowledge of the course. In any case you can see the difficulty the BCL admissions team faces - are *they* sure that the course at Swansea etc are identically hard with Cambridge?
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I think you will find the exam standard is suppose to be even across the board - we have very few Firsts each year at Swansea, last year there were only 15 out of about 300 students. Everything is externally double marked, etc. Many of our lecturers are Oxford/Cambridge grads. Perhaps at a law firm a 68% at Cambridge would be looked upon as superior to a 68% at Swansea, but I can assure you that my final year at Swansea has been nothing short of rigorous.</blockquote>

I wasn't having a dig at Swansea at all, it's ranked higher than the university I'm attending, my point was that it is difficult to compare the top first from university x (including but not necessarily restricted to Swansea) to a top 2:1 from Cambridge.

Maybe the standard is supposed to be even across the board but it certainly isn't - I have 81% average in my first two years. Obviously I wouldn't get 81% at Cambridge, no-one does. Would I get above 68%? Certainly possible. If the standard happens to be identical at Swansea and Cambridge then that was just bad luck on my part - I picked it as an example with no particular knowledge of the course. In any case you can see the difficulty the BCL admissions team faces - are *they* sure that the course at Swansea etc are identically hard with Cambridge?
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oi210

I wasn't having a dig at Swansea at all, it's ranked higher than the university I'm attending, my point was that it is difficult to compare the top first from university x (including but not necessarily restricted to Swansea) to a top 2:1 from Cambridge.

Maybe the standard is supposed to be even across the board but it certainly isn't - I have 81% average in my first two years. Obviously I wouldn't get 81% at Cambridge, no-one does. Would I get above 68%? Certainly possible. If the standard happens to be identical at Swansea and Cambridge then that was just bad luck on my part - I picked it as an example with no particular knowledge of the course. In any case you can see the difficulty the BCL admissions team faces - are *they* sure that the course at Swansea etc are identically hard with Cambridge?


I probably would agree with this. There are like 3 firsts in my year (about 280 ppl) and the highest mark is normally about 71/72. Some universities do seem to give out very high grades, but I imagine something like 80 would still be seen as a first from wherever it was viz. Oxbridge. I think this is why they go on class rank as well: 80 and top of the year is plausible, but 80 and only in the top 5-10% sorry but the uni grading system is out of sync with most unis and I would imagine they would take that into account.
So, if swansea has 15/300 1sts is 5% ( the national average is 6%) thats about right for a university law school. So the top person from Swansea may very well be seen as better than a oxford 1st but only top 20. Who knows, the other thing is that Oxbridge people don't have proper actual grades in 1st and 2nd year do they?
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I wasn't having a dig at Swansea at all, it's ranked higher than the university I'm attending, my point was that it is difficult to compare the top first from university x (including but not necessarily restricted to Swansea) to a top 2:1 from Cambridge.

Maybe the standard is supposed to be even across the board but it certainly isn't - I have 81% average in my first two years. Obviously I wouldn't get 81% at Cambridge, no-one does. Would I get above 68%? Certainly possible. If the standard happens to be identical at Swansea and Cambridge then that was just bad luck on my part - I picked it as an example with no particular knowledge of the course. In any case you can see the difficulty the BCL admissions team faces - are *they* sure that the course at Swansea etc are identically hard with Cambridge?
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I probably would agree with this. There are like 3 firsts in my year (about 280 ppl) and the highest mark is normally about 71/72. Some universities do seem to give out very high grades, but I imagine something like 80 would still be seen as a first from wherever it was viz. Oxbridge. I think this is why they go on class rank as well: 80 and top of the year is plausible, but 80 and only in the top 5-10% sorry but the uni grading system is out of sync with most unis and I would imagine they would take that into account.
So, if swansea has 15/300 1sts is 5% ( the national average is 6%) thats about right for a university law school. So the top person from Swansea may very well be seen as better than a oxford 1st but only top 20. Who knows, the other thing is that Oxbridge people don't have proper actual grades in 1st and 2nd year do they?
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lawyer2b
What colleges did everyone apply to?



I applied to St John's, how about you?
<blockquote>What colleges did everyone apply to? </blockquote>



I applied to St John's, how about you?
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oi210
What colleges did everyone apply to?



I applied to St John's, how about you?


St. John's as well
<blockquote><blockquote>What colleges did everyone apply to? </blockquote>



I applied to St John's, how about you?</blockquote>

St. John's as well
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ck950203
hey, now we have our own FB group! for those who are admitted to Oxford MLF/BCL/MJur, feel free to join this group to discuss the remaining formalities to the course, college, accommodation and to get to know fellow students. http://www.facebook.com/groups/516925838351088/
take care, Christopher
hey, now we have our own FB group! for those who are admitted to Oxford MLF/BCL/MJur, feel free to join this group to discuss the remaining formalities to the course, college, accommodation and to get to know fellow students. http://www.facebook.com/groups/516925838351088/
take care, Christopher
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leagalis
Anybody has any idea about when we get to know the outcome of the scholarship applications?
Anybody has any idea about when we get to know the outcome of the scholarship applications?
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oi210
Anybody has any idea about when we get to know the outcome of the scholarship applications?


Erm the woman said in the office that it would be by the end of march for the law ones, but aside from that who knows :s at this rate il have to consider becoming a coke mule over the summer
<blockquote>Anybody has any idea about when we get to know the outcome of the scholarship applications?</blockquote>

Erm the woman said in the office that it would be by the end of march for the law ones, but aside from that who knows :s at this rate il have to consider becoming a coke mule over the summer
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hey I got a conditional offer from oxford (BCL) today asking me to complete my LLB with 1st class. what does 1st class mean?

My aggregate percentage as of now is 64.25% and that is 1st division in my university. Can anyone help me out.

Regards


Means 70% and above
<blockquote>hey I got a conditional offer from oxford (BCL) today asking me to complete my LLB with 1st class. what does 1st class mean?

My aggregate percentage as of now is 64.25% and that is 1st division in my university. Can anyone help me out.

Regards</blockquote>

Means 70% and above
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xrxyxaxnx
This thread has gone very quiet - I imagine owing to the fact that Cambridge drags out the process and Oxford is more succinct (/brutal) in its response.

Anyway, have many of you heard back from colleges yet? I received a letter from Corpus Christi this week - anybody else?

Most importantly: anybody fortunate enough to have been given a scholarship? I understand Clarendon have been communicated already, but how about those from the faculty itself?

Just thought I'd restart conversation....
This thread has gone very quiet - I imagine owing to the fact that Cambridge drags out the process and Oxford is more succinct (/brutal) in its response.

Anyway, have many of you heard back from colleges yet? I received a letter from Corpus Christi this week - anybody else?

Most importantly: anybody fortunate enough to have been given a scholarship? I understand Clarendon have been communicated already, but how about those from the faculty itself?

Just thought I'd restart conversation....
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rebecca_p
I got rejected at my first choice college. Does that mean my application will now be passed on to a college with few applications or do I still have a chance to be accepted into one of the more popular ones?
I got rejected at my first choice college. Does that mean my application will now be passed on to a college with few applications or do I still have a chance to be accepted into one of the more popular ones?
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wrightone
The process if you don't get your first choice college is, to my knowledge, that you will go into a "pool" and, once all colleges have made their first round of offers, if they still have to fill their quota of BCL/MJur students they'll consider applicants in the pool. The number of students the college takes varies from college to college (some take up to 10, others only 1).

Generally, the more popular colleges don't tend to accept students from the pool because they usually fill their quota with their first round of offers.
The process if you don't get your first choice college is, to my knowledge, that you will go into a "pool" and, once all colleges have made their first round of offers, if they still have to fill their quota of BCL/MJur students they'll consider applicants in the pool. The number of students the college takes varies from college to college (some take up to 10, others only 1).

Generally, the more popular colleges don't tend to accept students from the pool because they usually fill their quota with their first round of offers.
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cx32323
has anyone heard from St John's yet? They say it taks around 4-6 weeks for an offer to come out, and it is the last day of my 6 weeks today. I'm getting a bit worried about not getting my preferred choice now.
has anyone heard from St John's yet? They say it taks around 4-6 weeks for an offer to come out, and it is the last day of my 6 weeks today. I'm getting a bit worried about not getting my preferred choice now.
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has anyone heard from St John's yet? They say it taks around 4-6 weeks for an offer to come out, and it is the last day of my 6 weeks today. I'm getting a bit worried about not getting my preferred choice now.


I heard, got rejected at the start of April. So you may have been shortlisted, I guess. It seems about half the applications have been there due to their bcl specific scholarship, so the competition must be intense. Good luck for those still waiting!

I got an offer from what seems to be a nice old central one (I know nothing of the colleges...) about a week after that rejection, so there shouldn't be long to wait now.
<blockquote>has anyone heard from St John's yet? They say it taks around 4-6 weeks for an offer to come out, and it is the last day of my 6 weeks today. I'm getting a bit worried about not getting my preferred choice now.</blockquote>

I heard, got rejected at the start of April. So you may have been shortlisted, I guess. It seems about half the applications have been there due to their bcl specific scholarship, so the competition must be intense. Good luck for those still waiting!

I got an offer from what seems to be a nice old central one (I know nothing of the colleges...) about a week after that rejection, so there shouldn't be long to wait now.

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cx32323
has anyone heard from St John's yet? They say it taks around 4-6 weeks for an offer to come out, and it is the last day of my 6 weeks today. I'm getting a bit worried about not getting my preferred choice now.


I heard, got rejected at the start of April. So you may have been shortlisted, I guess. It seems about half the applications have been there due to their bcl specific scholarship, so the competition must be intense. Good luck for those still waiting!

I got an offer from what seems to be a nice old central one (I know nothing of the colleges...) about a week after that rejection, so there shouldn't be long to wait now.



Thanks! I've been getting worried as the days passed by
<blockquote><blockquote>has anyone heard from St John's yet? They say it taks around 4-6 weeks for an offer to come out, and it is the last day of my 6 weeks today. I'm getting a bit worried about not getting my preferred choice now.</blockquote>

I heard, got rejected at the start of April. So you may have been shortlisted, I guess. It seems about half the applications have been there due to their bcl specific scholarship, so the competition must be intense. Good luck for those still waiting!

I got an offer from what seems to be a nice old central one (I know nothing of the colleges...) about a week after that rejection, so there shouldn't be long to wait now.

</blockquote>

Thanks! I've been getting worried as the days passed by
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