Oxford 2023-2024 BCL/MSCs/MJUR/MPHIL/MLF Applicants


nj123

Are you guys just using your ordinary CV and tailoring the personal statement part?


Just used my ordinary CV, I don't have a standard personal statement so drafted it for the application. Essay was just an excerpt from an article I wrote earlier in 2022.


Wow published! Where was it published?

[quote][quote]Are you guys just using your ordinary CV and tailoring the personal statement part? [/quote]<br><br>Just used my ordinary CV, I don't have a standard personal statement so drafted it for the application. Essay was just an excerpt from an article I wrote earlier in 2022.<br> [/quote]<br><br>Wow published! Where was it published?
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miki3999

Do NOT use standard personal statements, always tailor them to the programme (like a cover letter).

Do NOT use standard personal statements, always tailor them to the programme (like a cover letter).
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caighdean

Are you guys just using your ordinary CV and tailoring the personal statement part?


Just used my ordinary CV, I don't have a standard personal statement so drafted it for the application. Essay was just an excerpt from an article I wrote earlier in 2022.


Wow published! Where was it published?


Thank you! Hibernian Law Journal, it's run by the Law Society of Ireland (Irish solicitors body). I've been out of college for a few years which gives you the time to do these things 1f605

[quote][quote][quote]Are you guys just using your ordinary CV and tailoring the personal statement part? [/quote]<br><br>Just used my ordinary CV, I don't have a standard personal statement so drafted it for the application. Essay was just an excerpt from an article I wrote earlier in 2022.<br> [/quote]<br><br>Wow published! Where was it published? [/quote]<br><br>Thank you! Hibernian Law Journal, it's run by the Law Society of Ireland (Irish solicitors body). I've been out of college for a few years which gives you the time to do these things&nbsp;:sweat-smile:
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Phoenix1

Re the written work for BCL, does anyone know if footnotes will be included in the word count?

Re the written work for BCL, does anyone know if footnotes will be included in the word count?<br>
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miki3999

Re the written work for BCL, does anyone know if footnotes will be included in the word count?


they will not be

[quote]Re the written work for BCL, does anyone know if footnotes will be included in the word count?<br> [/quote]<br><br>they will not be
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ChelsBe

Hi! I'm applying to the MJur, since I come from a civil law country. I'm still working on my personal statement and talking to teachers regarding letters of recomendations. 


Hey there! I was looking for others applying to the Mjur. How is the application going? Submitted yet? 

[quote]Hi! I'm applying to the MJur, since I come from a civil law country. I'm still working on my personal statement and talking to teachers regarding letters of recomendations.&nbsp; [/quote]<br><br>Hey there! I was looking for others applying to the Mjur. How is the application going? Submitted yet?&nbsp;
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nj123

Did you all include a bibliography with your submitted essay?

Did you all include a bibliography with your submitted essay?
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Did you all include a bibliography with your submitted essay?


I didn't.

[quote]Did you all include a bibliography with your submitted essay? [/quote]<br><br>I didn't.
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caighdean

Did you all include a bibliography with your submitted essay?


Nope, though it may have had footnotes, can't remember!

[quote]Did you all include a bibliography with your submitted essay? [/quote]<br><br>Nope, though it may have had footnotes, can't remember!
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nj123

Did you all include a bibliography with your submitted essay?


I didn't.


Cool thanks, just footnotes then?

[quote][quote]Did you all include a bibliography with your submitted essay? [/quote]<br><br>I didn't. [/quote]<br><br>Cool thanks, just footnotes then?
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nj123

Did you all include a bibliography with your submitted essay?


Nope, though it may have had footnotes, can't remember!


Great, thanks! I saw that the site says the essay wordcount doesnt include footnotes or bibliography so wasnt sure if that was a hint to include a bibliography:) Not sure if it's worth including a bibliography but I doubt it has any weight

[quote][quote]Did you all include a bibliography with your submitted essay? [/quote]<br><br>Nope, though it may have had footnotes, can't remember! [/quote]<br><br>Great, thanks! I saw that the site says the essay wordcount doesnt include footnotes or bibliography so wasnt sure if that was a hint to include a bibliography:) Not sure if it's worth including a bibliography but I doubt it has any weight
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Did you all include a bibliography with your submitted essay?


I didn't.


Cool thanks, just footnotes then?


It doesn't have footnotes either. I submitted an essay of case analysis that I wrote years back in Uni. I wrote it without using any reference sources. I don't know a lack of footnotes is a bad decision or not. Honestly, I just chose it because it was the one my lecturer gave me a quite good compliment.

[quote][quote][quote]Did you all include a bibliography with your submitted essay? [/quote]<br><br>I didn't. [/quote]<br><br>Cool thanks, just footnotes then? [/quote]<br><br>It doesn't have footnotes either. I submitted an essay of case analysis that I wrote years back in Uni. I wrote it without using any reference sources. I don't know a lack of footnotes is a bad decision or not. Honestly, I just chose it because it was the one my lecturer gave me a quite good compliment.<br>
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nj123



I didn't.


Cool thanks, just footnotes then?


It doesn't have footnotes either. I submitted an essay of case analysis that I wrote years back in Uni. I wrote it without using any reference sources. I don't know a lack of footnotes is a bad decision or not. Honestly, I just chose it because it was the one my lecturer gave me a quite good compliment.


Do you mean you didn't use any secondary sources? To be honest, the marking guidance they gave for the essay doesn't explicitly include research/use of relevant materials, so I wouldn't overly worry! How many words was it?

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[quote][quote][quote][quote]Did you all include a bibliography with your submitted essay? [/quote]<br><br>I didn't. [/quote]<br><br>Cool thanks, just footnotes then? [/quote]<br><br>It doesn't have footnotes either. I submitted an essay of case analysis that I wrote years back in Uni. I wrote it without using any reference sources. I don't know a lack of footnotes is a bad decision or not. Honestly, I just chose it because it was the one my lecturer gave me a quite good compliment.<br> [/quote]<br><br>Do you mean you didn't use any secondary sources? To be honest, the marking guidance they gave for the essay doesn't explicitly include research/use of relevant materials, so I wouldn't overly worry! How many words was it?
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Cool thanks, just footnotes then?


It doesn't have footnotes either. I submitted an essay of case analysis that I wrote years back in Uni. I wrote it without using any reference sources. I don't know a lack of footnotes is a bad decision or not. Honestly, I just chose it because it was the one my lecturer gave me a quite good compliment.


Do you mean you didn't use any secondary sources? To be honest, the marking guidance they gave for the essay doesn't explicitly include research/use of relevant materials, so I wouldn't overly worry! How many words was it?


Yes, I didn't use any secondary sources. It has approximately 1700-1800 words.

Thank you for your kind consolation! I'm trying not to think about anything until everything starts getting real on mid-March. Good luck everyone!

[quote][quote][quote][quote][quote]Did you all include a bibliography with your submitted essay? [/quote]<br><br>I didn't. [/quote]<br><br>Cool thanks, just footnotes then? [/quote]<br><br>It doesn't have footnotes either. I submitted an essay of case analysis that I wrote years back in Uni. I wrote it without using any reference sources. I don't know a lack of footnotes is a bad decision or not. Honestly, I just chose it because it was the one my lecturer gave me a quite good compliment.<br> [/quote]<br><br>Do you mean you didn't use any secondary sources? To be honest, the marking guidance they gave for the essay doesn't explicitly include research/use of relevant materials, so I wouldn't overly worry! How many words was it? [/quote]<br><br>Yes, I didn't use any secondary sources. It has approximately 1700-1800 words.<br><br>Thank you for your kind consolation! I'm trying not to think about anything until everything starts getting real on mid-March. Good luck everyone!
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nj123



It doesn't have footnotes either. I submitted an essay of case analysis that I wrote years back in Uni. I wrote it without using any reference sources. I don't know a lack of footnotes is a bad decision or not. Honestly, I just chose it because it was the one my lecturer gave me a quite good compliment.


Do you mean you didn't use any secondary sources? To be honest, the marking guidance they gave for the essay doesn't explicitly include research/use of relevant materials, so I wouldn't overly worry! How many words was it?


Yes, I didn't use any secondary sources. It has approximately 1700-1800 words.

Thank you for your kind consolation! I'm trying not to think about anything until everything starts getting real on mid-March. Good luck everyone!


No worries! Sorry for making you think about it now haha, I'm just forever anxious and I feel like there was no guidance given on how to do the essay so wanted to see how others took it. Good luck!

[quote][quote][quote][quote][quote][quote]Did you all include a bibliography with your submitted essay? [/quote]<br><br>I didn't. [/quote]<br><br>Cool thanks, just footnotes then? [/quote]<br><br>It doesn't have footnotes either. I submitted an essay of case analysis that I wrote years back in Uni. I wrote it without using any reference sources. I don't know a lack of footnotes is a bad decision or not. Honestly, I just chose it because it was the one my lecturer gave me a quite good compliment.<br> [/quote]<br><br>Do you mean you didn't use any secondary sources? To be honest, the marking guidance they gave for the essay doesn't explicitly include research/use of relevant materials, so I wouldn't overly worry! How many words was it? [/quote]<br><br>Yes, I didn't use any secondary sources. It has approximately 1700-1800 words.<br><br>Thank you for your kind consolation! I'm trying not to think about anything until everything starts getting real on mid-March. Good luck everyone! [/quote]<br><br>No worries! Sorry for making you think about it now haha, I'm just forever anxious and I feel like there was no guidance given on how to do the essay so wanted to see how others took it. Good luck!
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Phoenix1

Hi All,

Does anyone know how strict the word count for BCL written work is? I have an essay that I'm shortening, but even after summarizing it to a great extent it still comes to around 2700 :( Does anyone know how far over 2000 I can go?

Hi All,<br><br>Does anyone know how strict the word count for BCL written work is? I have an essay that I'm shortening, but even after summarizing it to a great extent it still comes to around 2700 :( Does anyone know how far over 2000 I can go?<br>
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nj123

Hi All,

Does anyone know how strict the word count for BCL written work is? I have an essay that I'm shortening, but even after summarizing it to a great extent it still comes to around 2700 :( Does anyone know how far over 2000 I can go?


I believe someone in this thread or a previous year's thread said 10% over is fine. If it's part of a longer essay (which your comment suggests), write a preface (which isn't part of the wordcount) saying this so they know the essay you submit isn't the 'full' one. Personally, I cut out my conclusion to fit the word count:p 

[quote]Hi All,<br><br>Does anyone know how strict the word count for BCL written work is? I have an essay that I'm shortening, but even after summarizing it to a great extent it still comes to around 2700 :( Does anyone know how far over 2000 I can go?<br> [/quote]<br><br>I believe someone in this thread or a previous year's thread said 10% over is fine. If it's part of a longer essay (which your comment suggests), write a preface (which isn't part of the wordcount) saying this so they know the essay you submit isn't the 'full' one. Personally, I cut out my conclusion to fit the word count:p&nbsp;
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B0B1

Hi everyone! Miki, thank you for all your responses, they are incredibly helpful.

In respect of the written submission, do you believe it will be disadvantageous to submit an essay which is shorter than 2000 words? More specifically, my best written work is a little over 1500 words (no footnotes and bibliography included) and I was planning on submitting it prior to finding this discussion. Also, would you suggest noting next to the word count that it does not include the footnotes and the bibligraphy or this is a given? Finally, considering the discussion above, would you suggest even leaving my footnotes and bibliography in the paper (they are done as per OSCOLA's requirements) or is it preferrable to leave them out?

Hi everyone! Miki, thank you for all your responses, they are incredibly helpful.<br><br>In respect of the written submission, do you believe it will be disadvantageous to submit an essay which is shorter than 2000 words? More specifically, my best written work is a little over 1500 words (no footnotes and bibliography included) and I was planning on submitting it prior to finding this discussion. Also, would you suggest noting next to the word count that it does not include the footnotes and the bibligraphy or this is a given? Finally, considering the discussion above, would you suggest even leaving my footnotes and bibliography in the paper (they are done as per OSCOLA's requirements) or is it preferrable to leave them out?
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Blom21

Hey! I’m applying for the Mag.Jur. and my word count is about 1500. I can’t imagine that it will place us at a disatvantage because it is not significantly under the maximum!

Anyway, I have references. However, I am not using a reference system that is recognized world wide - I’m just using the one used at my school - adjusted to english sitation (my law faculty has its own system…). Do you guys think that it is a bad thing? I just don’t want to use a system I am not used to.. 

Hey! I’m applying for the Mag.Jur. and my word count is about 1500. I can’t imagine that it will place us at a disatvantage because it is not significantly under the maximum!<br><br>Anyway, I have references. However, I am not using a reference system that is recognized world wide - I’m just using the one used at my school - adjusted to english sitation (my law faculty has its own system…). Do you guys think that it is a bad thing? I just don’t want to use a system I am not used to..&nbsp;
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draemon

Hi everyone! Miki, thank you for all your responses, they are incredibly helpful.

In respect of the written submission, do you believe it will be disadvantageous to submit an essay which is shorter than 2000 words? More specifically, my best written work is a little over 1500 words (no footnotes and bibliography included) and I was planning on submitting it prior to finding this discussion. Also, would you suggest noting next to the word count that it does not include the footnotes and the bibligraphy or this is a given? Finally, considering the discussion above, would you suggest even leaving my footnotes and bibliography in the paper (they are done as per OSCOLA's requirements) or is it preferrable to leave them out?


Honestly, I think you're harming your application if you're not making the most of the word count. But at the same time, it would be even worse if you were to dilute a quality answer with 500 words of tosh at the end. So you probably chose the best solution for you 

[quote]Hi everyone! Miki, thank you for all your responses, they are incredibly helpful.<br><br>In respect of the written submission, do you believe it will be disadvantageous to submit an essay which is shorter than 2000 words? More specifically, my best written work is a little over 1500 words (no footnotes and bibliography included) and I was planning on submitting it prior to finding this discussion. Also, would you suggest noting next to the word count that it does not include the footnotes and the bibligraphy or this is a given? Finally, considering the discussion above, would you suggest even leaving my footnotes and bibliography in the paper (they are done as per OSCOLA's requirements) or is it preferrable to leave them out? [/quote]<br><br>Honestly, I think you're harming your application if you're not making the most of the word count. But at the same time, it would be even worse if you were to dilute a quality answer with 500 words of tosh at the end. So you probably chose the best solution&nbsp;for you&nbsp;
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