Oxford 2023-2024 BCL/MSCs/MJUR/MPHIL/MLF Applicants


Estoppel

I’m studying at a good RG law school in London and I’m averaging near 67. Not sure if it even makes sense to apply to the MLF, any opinions?


Hey friend,


I cannot of course speak authoritatively, but this is what I know.
**It seems that from 2020 up to the most recent application cycle  there have been 6 offers made to applicants with 2.1 degrees for the Master of Law and Finance course. From 2020/21 up to 2021/22,there have been no acceptances.**

I hope this clarifies things. I personally think it's worth the shot, especially if you have work experience which apparently can positively impact your application for the MLF. I imagine, however, that the lack of acceptances has something to do with  difficulties with securing sufficient funding through the university and college scholarships.

[Edited by Estoppel on Dec 06, 2022]

[quote]I’m studying at a good RG law school in London and I’m averaging near 67. Not sure if it even makes sense to apply to the MLF, any opinions? [/quote]<br><br><div>Hey friend,<br><br>
</div><div>I cannot of course speak authoritatively, but this is what I know.</div><br><div>**It seems that from 2020 up to the most recent application cycle&nbsp; there have been 6 offers made to applicants with 2.1 degrees for the Master of Law and Finance course. From 2020/21 up to 2021/22,there have been no acceptances.**<br></div><div><br></div><div>I hope this clarifies things. I personally think it's worth the shot, especially if you have work experience which apparently can positively impact your application for the MLF. I imagine, however, that the lack of acceptances has something to do with&nbsp; difficulties with securing sufficient funding through the university and college scholarships.</div>
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Inactive User

Anyone else finding the personal statement stage a bit odd? the website is vague with what it's about and the word count is so small.

Anyone else finding the personal statement stage a bit odd? the website is vague with what it's about and the word count is so small.
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miki3999

Anyone else finding the personal statement stage a bit odd? the website is vague with what it's about and the word count is so small.


In the PS just state why you are interested in the course (the interaction between various disciplines as in the MLF) etc, what motivated you to apply for the course etc. The PS is not too important, but it could a nice flavour to the app and the faculty is aware of the word limit.

[quote]Anyone else finding the personal statement stage a bit odd? the website is vague with what it's about and the word count is so small. [/quote]<br><br>In the PS just state why you are interested in the course (the interaction between various disciplines as in the MLF) etc, what motivated you to apply for the course etc. The PS is not too important, but it could a nice flavour to the app and the faculty is aware of the word limit.
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miki3999

Hi, I'm (still) a current Oxford student, so feel free to ask questions about the process :) 


Hi Miki... thanks for offering guidance.


I was wondering if you could help me assess my chances for the BCL. I've got a first (although not a very high one) and ranked in the top 3% of a 129-person cohort and have a few months as a trainee at a big corporate law firm. I've also just got elected as a Rhodes Scholar and the trust can fund up to 2 applications. My second choice is the MLF but I don't want to waste my chances if the BCL is a long shot


This looks good to me. Nothing can really guarantee admission, but it is always worth giving a shot. I'd apply for both the BCL and the MLF.

[quote][quote]Hi, I'm (still) a current Oxford student, so feel free to ask questions about the process :)&nbsp; [/quote]<br><br>Hi Miki... thanks for offering guidance.<br><br><br>I was wondering if you could help me assess my chances for the BCL. I've got a first (although not a very high one) and ranked in the top 3% of a 129-person cohort and have a few months as a trainee at a big corporate law firm. I've also just got elected as a Rhodes Scholar and the trust can fund up to 2 applications. My second choice is the MLF but I don't want to waste my chances if the BCL is a long shot<br> [/quote]<br><br>This looks good to me. Nothing can really guarantee admission, but it is always worth giving a shot. I'd apply for both the BCL and the MLF.
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Inactive User

How do Oxford weigh the various elements of the app? Is it grades, reference, essay and PS?

How do Oxford weigh the various elements of the app? Is it grades, reference, essay and PS?
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miki3999

How do Oxford weigh the various elements of the app? Is it grades, reference, essay and PS?


It depends but something along these lines (or grades> essay > references > ps)

[quote]How do Oxford weigh the various elements of the app? Is it grades, reference, essay and PS? [/quote]<br><br>It depends but something along these lines (or grades&gt; essay &gt; references &gt; ps)
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DPHIL


Hello,


Is this the same  scale for the research degrees like the DPhil?



How do Oxford weigh the various elements of the app? Is it grades, reference, essay and PS?


It depends but something along these lines (or grades> essay > references > ps)

<br>Hello,<br><br><br>Is this the same&nbsp; scale for the research degrees like the DPhil?<br><br><br><br>[quote][quote]How do Oxford weigh the various elements of the app? Is it grades, reference, essay and PS? [/quote]<br><br>It depends but something along these lines (or grades&gt; essay &gt; references &gt; ps) [/quote]
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DPHIL

Hello,

Thanks but how does one fit all these important elements of a research proposal into 600 words. And do so in a persuasive way?  Any tips?

Thank you.

Hi, I'm (still) a current Oxford student, so feel free to ask questions about the process :) 


Hi, thank you! Would you have any insight into writing the research proposal for the DPhil/MPhil in law? For example, given the maximum word count is only 600, how much detail do you think applicants should go into when explaining their motivation for applying?


Hi, the research proposal should detail your research proposal, not your motivation for applying (that's what the personal statement is for). In the research proposal, try to explain why you want to undertake the research, what it will entail (like even a plan), mantion the topic, explain how your research will contribute to the science etc. 

Hello,<br><br>Thanks but how does one fit all these important elements of a research proposal into 600 words. And do so in a persuasive way?&nbsp; Any tips?<br><br>Thank you.<br><br>[quote][quote][quote]Hi, I'm (still) a current Oxford student, so feel free to ask questions about the process :)&nbsp; [/quote]<br><br>Hi, thank you! Would you have any insight into writing the research proposal for the DPhil/MPhil in law? For example, given the maximum word count is only 600, how much detail do you think applicants should go into when explaining their motivation for applying?<br> [/quote]<br><br>Hi, the research proposal should detail your research proposal, not your motivation for applying (that's what the personal statement is for). In the research proposal, try to explain why you want to undertake the research, what it will entail (like even a plan), mantion the topic, explain how your research will contribute to the science etc.&nbsp; [/quote]
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miki3999


Hello,


Is this the same  scale for the research degrees like the DPhil?



How do Oxford weigh the various elements of the app? Is it grades, reference, essay and PS?


It depends but something along these lines (or grades> essay > references > ps)


Yeah I'd say so

[quote]<br>Hello,<br><br><br>Is this the same&nbsp; scale for the research degrees like the DPhil?<br><br><br><br>[quote][quote]How do Oxford weigh the various elements of the app? Is it grades, reference, essay and PS? [/quote]<br><br>It depends but something along these lines (or grades&gt; essay &gt; references &gt; ps) [/quote] [/quote]<br><br>Yeah I'd say so
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miki3999

Hello,

Thanks but how does one fit all these important elements of a research proposal into 600 words. And do so in a persuasive way?  Any tips?

Thank you.



Hi, thank you! Would you have any insight into writing the research proposal for the DPhil/MPhil in law? For example, given the maximum word count is only 600, how much detail do you think applicants should go into when explaining their motivation for applying?


Hi, the research proposal should detail your research proposal, not your motivation for applying (that's what the personal statement is for). In the research proposal, try to explain why you want to undertake the research, what it will entail (like even a plan), mantion the topic, explain how your research will contribute to the science etc. 


That's the point. The application is testing whether a candidate can summarise/explain the research proposal succinctly (plus no one would expect the admissions team to read very long research proposals.) My tips would be: write initially what you want to write. Then read the proposal again and again to see what is not so relevant or what you can write better. It's a very annoying and time-consuming process, but this is usually how a good RP is written. Also, I think there is a 10% leeway so you can go to 650-60 words (or at least that was the case 3 years agon it's worthing cheking out!)

[quote]Hello,<br><br>Thanks but how does one fit all these important elements of a research proposal into 600 words. And do so in a persuasive way?&nbsp; Any tips?<br><br>Thank you.<br><br>[quote][quote][quote]Hi, I'm (still) a current Oxford student, so feel free to ask questions about the process :)&nbsp; [/quote]<br><br>Hi, thank you! Would you have any insight into writing the research proposal for the DPhil/MPhil in law? For example, given the maximum word count is only 600, how much detail do you think applicants should go into when explaining their motivation for applying?<br> [/quote]<br><br>Hi, the research proposal should detail your research proposal, not your motivation for applying (that's what the personal statement is for). In the research proposal, try to explain why you want to undertake the research, what it will entail (like even a plan), mantion the topic, explain how your research will contribute to the science etc.&nbsp; [/quote] [/quote]<br><br>That's the point. The application is testing whether a candidate can summarise/explain the research proposal succinctly (plus no one would expect the admissions team to read very long research proposals.) My tips would be: write initially what you want to write. Then read the proposal again and again to see what is not so relevant or what you can write better. It's a very annoying and time-consuming process, but this is usually how a good RP is written. Also, I think there is a 10% leeway so you can go to 650-60 words (or at least that was the case 3 years agon it's worthing cheking out!)
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DPHIL

Thanks!

I am curious if you know of how one can see successful samples of DPhil Law research proposals? Would you have one or any you could share with me?

Thanks again!

Hello,

Thanks but how does one fit all these important elements of a research proposal into 600 words. And do so in a persuasive way?  Any tips?

Thank you.



Hi, the research proposal should detail your research proposal, not your motivation for applying (that's what the personal statement is for). In the research proposal, try to explain why you want to undertake the research, what it will entail (like even a plan), mantion the topic, explain how your research will contribute to the science etc. 


That's the point. The application is testing whether a candidate can summarise/explain the research proposal succinctly (plus no one would expect the admissions team to read very long research proposals.) My tips would be: write initially what you want to write. Then read the proposal again and again to see what is not so relevant or what you can write better. It's a very annoying and time-consuming process, but this is usually how a good RP is written. Also, I think there is a 10% leeway so you can go to 650-60 words (or at least that was the case 3 years agon it's worthing cheking out!)

Thanks!<br><br>I am curious if you know of how one can see successful samples of DPhil Law research proposals? Would you have one or any you could share with me?<br><br>Thanks again!<br><br>[quote][quote]Hello,<br><br>Thanks but how does one fit all these important elements of a research proposal into 600 words. And do so in a persuasive way?&nbsp; Any tips?<br><br>Thank you.<br><br>[quote][quote][quote]Hi, I'm (still) a current Oxford student, so feel free to ask questions about the process :)&nbsp; [/quote]<br><br>Hi, thank you! Would you have any insight into writing the research proposal for the DPhil/MPhil in law? For example, given the maximum word count is only 600, how much detail do you think applicants should go into when explaining their motivation for applying?<br> [/quote]<br><br>Hi, the research proposal should detail your research proposal, not your motivation for applying (that's what the personal statement is for). In the research proposal, try to explain why you want to undertake the research, what it will entail (like even a plan), mantion the topic, explain how your research will contribute to the science etc.&nbsp; [/quote] [/quote]<br><br>That's the point. The application is testing whether a candidate can summarise/explain the research proposal succinctly (plus no one would expect the admissions team to read very long research proposals.) My tips would be: write initially what you want to write. Then read the proposal again and again to see what is not so relevant or what you can write better. It's a very annoying and time-consuming process, but this is usually how a good RP is written. Also, I think there is a 10% leeway so you can go to 650-60 words (or at least that was the case 3 years agon it's worthing cheking out!) [/quote]
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DPHIL


Thanks! 

I am surprised that for the DPhil, grades are considered superior to the research proposal.



Hello,


Is this the same  scale for the research degrees like the DPhil?





It depends but something along these lines (or grades> essay > references > ps)


Yeah I'd say so

<br>Thanks!&nbsp;<br><br>I am surprised that for the DPhil, grades are considered superior to the research proposal.<br><br><br>[quote][quote]<br>Hello,<br><br><br>Is this the same&nbsp; scale for the research degrees like the DPhil?<br><br><br><br>[quote][quote]How do Oxford weigh the various elements of the app? Is it grades, reference, essay and PS? [/quote]<br><br>It depends but something along these lines (or grades&gt; essay &gt; references &gt; ps) [/quote] [/quote]<br><br>Yeah I'd say so [/quote]
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miki3999


Thanks! 

I am surprised that for the DPhil, grades are considered superior to the research proposal.



Hello,


Is this the same  scale for the research degrees like the DPhil?





Yeah I'd say so


I don't have any because I've never done a dphil. I didn't mean that the research proposal is not important; it is very important. My point was that Oxbridge generally places a big emphasis on grades and even a 10/10 research proposal will not make up for 2:2 degree.

[Edited by miki3999 on Dec 15, 2022]

[quote]<br>Thanks!&nbsp;<br><br>I am surprised that for the DPhil, grades are considered superior to the research proposal.<br><br><br>[quote][quote]<br>Hello,<br><br><br>Is this the same&nbsp; scale for the research degrees like the DPhil?<br><br><br><br>[quote][quote]How do Oxford weigh the various elements of the app? Is it grades, reference, essay and PS? [/quote]<br><br>It depends but something along these lines (or grades&gt; essay &gt; references &gt; ps) [/quote] [/quote]<br><br>Yeah I'd say so [/quote] [/quote]<br><br>I don't have any because I've never done a dphil. I didn't mean that the research proposal is not important; it is very important. My point was that Oxbridge generally places a big emphasis on grades and even a 10/10 research proposal will not make up for 2:2 degree.
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lawphdapp

Thanks!

I am curious if you know of how one can see successful samples of DPhil Law research proposals? Would you have one or any you could share with me?

Thanks again!

Hello,

Thanks but how does one fit all these important elements of a research proposal into 600 words. And do so in a persuasive way?  Any tips?

Thank you.



That's the point. The application is testing whether a candidate can summarise/explain the research proposal succinctly (plus no one would expect the admissions team to read very long research proposals.) My tips would be: write initially what you want to write. Then read the proposal again and again to see what is not so relevant or what you can write better. It's a very annoying and time-consuming process, but this is usually how a good RP is written. Also, I think there is a 10% leeway so you can go to 650-60 words (or at least that was the case 3 years agon it's worthing cheking out!)



I second this! It would be interesting to see examples of other research proposals, if anyone on here has any.

[Edited by lawphdapp on Dec 18, 2022]

[quote]Thanks!<br><br>I am curious if you know of how one can see successful samples of DPhil Law research proposals? Would you have one or any you could share with me?<br><br>Thanks again!<br><br>[quote][quote]Hello,<br><br>Thanks but how does one fit all these important elements of a research proposal into 600 words. And do so in a persuasive way?&nbsp; Any tips?<br><br>Thank you.<br><br>[quote][quote][quote]Hi, I'm (still) a current Oxford student, so feel free to ask questions about the process :)&nbsp; [/quote]<br><br>Hi, thank you! Would you have any insight into writing the research proposal for the DPhil/MPhil in law? For example, given the maximum word count is only 600, how much detail do you think applicants should go into when explaining their motivation for applying?<br> [/quote]<br><br>Hi, the research proposal should detail your research proposal, not your motivation for applying (that's what the personal statement is for). In the research proposal, try to explain why you want to undertake the research, what it will entail (like even a plan), mantion the topic, explain how your research will contribute to the science etc.&nbsp; [/quote] [/quote]<br><br>That's the point. The application is testing whether a candidate can summarise/explain the research proposal succinctly (plus no one would expect the admissions team to read very long research proposals.) My tips would be: write initially what you want to write. Then read the proposal again and again to see what is not so relevant or what you can write better. It's a very annoying and time-consuming process, but this is usually how a good RP is written. Also, I think there is a 10% leeway so you can go to 650-60 words (or at least that was the case 3 years agon it's worthing cheking out!) [/quote] [/quote]<br><br><br>I second this! It would be interesting to see examples of other research proposals, if anyone on here has any.
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DPHIL



Hello!

I frequently hear that the applicants are ranked.  Your reference to a 10/10 research proposal, makes me wonder about the ranking scheme.  Are applicants assessed on a 10 point scale for each of various dimensions?

Can anyone speak to the ranking scheme of applicants at Oxford Law?


Thanks.

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Thanks! 

I am surprised that for the DPhil, grades are considered superior to the research proposal.




Yeah I'd say so


I don't have any because I've never done a dphil. I didn't mean that the research proposal is not important; it is very important. My point was that Oxbridge generally places a big emphasis on grades and even a 10/10 research proposal will not make up for 2:2 degree.

<br><br>Hello!<br><br>I frequently hear that the applicants are ranked.&nbsp; Your reference to a 10/10 research proposal, makes me wonder about the ranking scheme.&nbsp; Are applicants assessed on a 10 point scale for each of various dimensions?<br><br>Can anyone speak to the ranking scheme of applicants at Oxford Law?<br><br><br>Thanks.<br><br>.[quote][quote]<br>Thanks!&nbsp;<br><br>I am surprised that for the DPhil, grades are considered superior to the research proposal.<br><br><br>[quote][quote]<br>Hello,<br><br><br>Is this the same&nbsp; scale for the research degrees like the DPhil?<br><br><br><br>[quote][quote]How do Oxford weigh the various elements of the app? Is it grades, reference, essay and PS? [/quote]<br><br>It depends but something along these lines (or grades&gt; essay &gt; references &gt; ps) [/quote] [/quote]<br><br>Yeah I'd say so [/quote] [/quote]<br><br>I don't have any because I've never done a dphil. I didn't mean that the research proposal is not important; it is very important. My point was that Oxbridge generally places a big emphasis on grades and even a 10/10 research proposal will not make up for 2:2 degree. [/quote]
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Guys, what's the MLF deadline? Jan 20, 2023?

Guys, what's the MLF deadline? Jan 20, 2023?
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Inactive User

Are you guys just using your ordinary CV and tailoring the personal statement part?

Are you guys just using your ordinary CV and tailoring the personal statement part?
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Inactive User

Also, RE the essays you're submitting, what topics have you all decided on (and perhaps why)?

Also, RE the essays you're submitting, what topics have you all decided on (and perhaps why)?
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caighdean

Are you guys just using your ordinary CV and tailoring the personal statement part?


Just used my ordinary CV, I don't have a standard personal statement so drafted it for the application. Essay was just an excerpt from an article I wrote earlier in 2022.

[quote]Are you guys just using your ordinary CV and tailoring the personal statement part? [/quote]<br><br>Just used my ordinary CV, I don't have a standard personal statement so drafted it for the application. Essay was just an excerpt from an article I wrote earlier in 2022.<br>
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