Hi guys! Does everyone know when admitted students receive the scholarship results? Does it come with the offer letter in March? Thank you!
Oxford 2020-2021 BCL/MSCs/MJUR/MPHIL/MLF/
Posted Feb 27, 2020 17:58
Posted Feb 28, 2020 08:15
Hi all!
I unfortunately didn't make it into Cambridge. Based in this I wanted to know what my prospects of getting into Oxford are. So far I have gotten into Cornell and NYU, but after the most recent rejection I have no clue so as to what my position is.
I was really hoping to study in the UK, since it's a more affordable option for me as compared to the US, but given the serious blow to my self confidence I don't know where I stand or what to think. Any advice will be helpful.
Don't take it to heart, ann007.
All law schools get far more qualified candidates than they can accommodate, and it often turns out to be a matter of luck. It's not just how strong your profile was, but also how strong others were, and how unique you were in a particular cycle. It is not a reflection of how good or bad you are. Many people here have made it in their second or third tries, and you should keep trying if it matters so much to you.
Otherwise, I feel there is very little different between LLM programmes. NYU is brilliant, and I'm sure you would have another few applications pending. Remember, it matters not how many times you fail, but only the one time you succeed. Stay strong!
Thank you so much for your kind words, I really hope what your saying stands true. Although I was very disappointed, but life goes on. I just hope everything sorts itself. All I can do is hope right now to be honest. Lets see what happens.
I unfortunately didn't make it into Cambridge. Based in this I wanted to know what my prospects of getting into Oxford are. So far I have gotten into Cornell and NYU, but after the most recent rejection I have no clue so as to what my position is.
I was really hoping to study in the UK, since it's a more affordable option for me as compared to the US, but given the serious blow to my self confidence I don't know where I stand or what to think. Any advice will be helpful. [/quote]
Don't take it to heart, ann007.
All law schools get far more qualified candidates than they can accommodate, and it often turns out to be a matter of luck. It's not just how strong your profile was, but also how strong others were, and how unique you were in a particular cycle. It is not a reflection of how good or bad you are. Many people here have made it in their second or third tries, and you should keep trying if it matters so much to you.
Otherwise, I feel there is very little different between LLM programmes. NYU is brilliant, and I'm sure you would have another few applications pending. Remember, it matters not how many times you fail, but only the one time you succeed. Stay strong!
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Thank you so much for your kind words, I really hope what your saying stands true. Although I was very disappointed, but life goes on. I just hope everything sorts itself. All I can do is hope right now to be honest. Lets see what happens.
Posted Feb 28, 2020 16:33
Just got an email from Oxford saying that they are making me an offer for the MSc Criminology and Criminal Justice !!
Posted Feb 28, 2020 16:37
Just got an email from Oxford saying that they are making me an offer for the MSc Criminology and Criminal Justice !!
Congratulations!!! Big achievement and great news. Did you expect a reply on this date, based on last year's trend, or it was unexpected? thanks and congrats
Congratulations!!! Big achievement and great news. Did you expect a reply on this date, based on last year's trend, or it was unexpected? thanks and congrats
Posted Feb 28, 2020 16:40
Just got an email from Oxford saying that they are making me an offer for the MSc Criminology and Criminal Justice !!
Congratulations!!! Big achievement and great news. Did you expect a reply on this date, based on last year's trend, or it was unexpected? thanks and congrats
Thank you !! Really unexpected, I thought I was going to wait 2 more weeks ! Still waiting for an answer from the Mjur ! Good luck to you all :)
Congratulations!!! Big achievement and great news. Did you expect a reply on this date, based on last year's trend, or it was unexpected? thanks and congrats[/quote]
Thank you !! Really unexpected, I thought I was going to wait 2 more weeks ! Still waiting for an answer from the Mjur ! Good luck to you all :)
Posted Feb 28, 2020 18:31
When do BCL offers usually come out?
Posted Feb 29, 2020 01:47
When do BCL offers usually come out?
I think last year offers for the MJur started around 20 March and the BCL offers came around 2 days earlier.
I think last year offers for the MJur started around 20 March and the BCL offers came around 2 days earlier.
Posted Mar 03, 2020 00:14
Any chance earlier this year?
Posted Mar 03, 2020 01:19
I feel like could be earlier this year. Very nervous. Is Oxford harder to get into than Cambridge? Class size is smaller but also way less appliers.
Posted Mar 03, 2020 01:51
I feel like could be earlier this year. Very nervous. Is Oxford harder to get into than Cambridge? Class size is smaller but also way less appliers.
As a general rule I think that the BCL is quite a bit more selective than the Cambridge LLM.
As a general rule I think that the BCL is quite a bit more selective than the Cambridge LLM.
Posted Mar 03, 2020 02:13
I feel like could be earlier this year. Very nervous. Is Oxford harder to get into than Cambridge? Class size is smaller but also way less appliers.
As a general rule I think that the BCL is quite a bit more selective than the Cambridge LLM.
Hello - is this myth or reality? Data shows close?
Cambridge - taught law masters. 1350 applications and 431 offers. 32% acceptance rate.
Oxford - BCL. 545 applications. 145 offers. 27% acceptance rate.
Sources:
https://www.graduate.study.cam.ac.uk/sites/www.2020.graduate.study.cam.ac.uk/files/graduate_admissions_report_2018-19_v4_0.pdf
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/specific_admission_statistics_fo#incoming-1047888
As a general rule I think that the BCL is quite a bit more selective than the Cambridge LLM.[/quote]
Hello - is this myth or reality? Data shows close?
Cambridge - taught law masters. 1350 applications and 431 offers. 32% acceptance rate.
Oxford - BCL. 545 applications. 145 offers. 27% acceptance rate.
Sources:
https://www.graduate.study.cam.ac.uk/sites/www.2020.graduate.study.cam.ac.uk/files/graduate_admissions_report_2018-19_v4_0.pdf
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/specific_admission_statistics_fo#incoming-1047888
Posted Mar 03, 2020 21:01
Very close !
Posted Mar 03, 2020 22:38
Further info FYI: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/bcl_admission_statistics_2#incoming-1528750
Posted Mar 03, 2020 23:57
Thanks for this. It makes for pretty grim reading for anyone not ranked in the top 3 of the undergraduate degree.
It's interesting that the FOI request asked for percentage rank, whereas the response seems to be on actual rank.
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Thanks for this. It makes for pretty grim reading for anyone not ranked in the top 3 of the undergraduate degree.
It's interesting that the FOI request asked for percentage rank, whereas the response seems to be on actual rank.
Posted Mar 04, 2020 00:12
I feel like could be earlier this year. Very nervous. Is Oxford harder to get into than Cambridge? Class size is smaller but also way less appliers.
As a general rule I think that the BCL is quite a bit more selective than the Cambridge LLM.
Hello - is this myth or reality? Data shows close?
Cambridge - taught law masters. 1350 applications and 431 offers. 32% acceptance rate.
Oxford - BCL. 545 applications. 145 offers. 27% acceptance rate.
Sources:
https://www.graduate.study.cam.ac.uk/sites/www.2020.graduate.study.cam.ac.uk/files/graduate_admissions_report_2018-19_v4_0.pdf
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/specific_admission_statistics_fo#incoming-1047888
Great stats. Thanks for sharing.
Just an observation. If we included the data of applicants for the MCL programme and other taught law masters at Cambridge, the same should apply for Oxford. In other words, we should also include the data for the Oxford MLF programme etc. together with the BCL to have a better appreciation in the comparison.
Aside from this, it would be interesting to compare the applicants for the Cambridge MCL with the Oxford MLF.
[Edited by lustitia on Mar 04, 2020]
As a general rule I think that the BCL is quite a bit more selective than the Cambridge LLM.[/quote]
Hello - is this myth or reality? Data shows close?
Cambridge - taught law masters. 1350 applications and 431 offers. 32% acceptance rate.
Oxford - BCL. 545 applications. 145 offers. 27% acceptance rate.
Sources:
https://www.graduate.study.cam.ac.uk/sites/www.2020.graduate.study.cam.ac.uk/files/graduate_admissions_report_2018-19_v4_0.pdf
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/specific_admission_statistics_fo#incoming-1047888 [/quote]
Great stats. Thanks for sharing.
Just an observation. If we included the data of applicants for the MCL programme and other taught law masters at Cambridge, the same should apply for Oxford. In other words, we should also include the data for the Oxford MLF programme etc. together with the BCL to have a better appreciation in the comparison.
Aside from this, it would be interesting to compare the applicants for the Cambridge MCL with the Oxford MLF.
Posted Mar 04, 2020 01:02
As a general rule I think that the BCL is quite a bit more selective than the Cambridge LLM.
Hello - is this myth or reality? Data shows close?
Cambridge - taught law masters. 1350 applications and 431 offers. 32% acceptance rate.
Oxford - BCL. 545 applications. 145 offers. 27% acceptance rate.
Sources:
https://www.graduate.study.cam.ac.uk/sites/www.2020.graduate.study.cam.ac.uk/files/graduate_admissions_report_2018-19_v4_0.pdf
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/specific_admission_statistics_fo#incoming-1047888
Great stats. Thanks for sharing.
Just an observation. If we included the data of applicants for the MCL programme and other taught law masters at Cambridge, the same should apply for Oxford. In other words, we should also include the data for the Oxford MLF programme etc. together with the BCL to have a better appreciation in the comparison.
Aside from this, it would be interesting to compare the applicants for the Cambridge MCL with the Oxford MLF.
Agreed. My instinct is other Oxford degrees easier to get into than BCL but haven’t looked for data yet
As a general rule I think that the BCL is quite a bit more selective than the Cambridge LLM.[/quote]
Hello - is this myth or reality? Data shows close?
Cambridge - taught law masters. 1350 applications and 431 offers. 32% acceptance rate.
Oxford - BCL. 545 applications. 145 offers. 27% acceptance rate.
Sources:
https://www.graduate.study.cam.ac.uk/sites/www.2020.graduate.study.cam.ac.uk/files/graduate_admissions_report_2018-19_v4_0.pdf
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/specific_admission_statistics_fo#incoming-1047888 [/quote]
Great stats. Thanks for sharing.
Just an observation. If we included the data of applicants for the MCL programme and other taught law masters at Cambridge, the same should apply for Oxford. In other words, we should also include the data for the Oxford MLF programme etc. together with the BCL to have a better appreciation in the comparison.
Aside from this, it would be interesting to compare the applicants for the Cambridge MCL with the Oxford MLF. [/quote]
Agreed. My instinct is other Oxford degrees easier to get into than BCL but haven’t looked for data yet
Posted Mar 04, 2020 01:33
Hello - is this myth or reality? Data shows close?
Cambridge - taught law masters. 1350 applications and 431 offers. 32% acceptance rate.
Oxford - BCL. 545 applications. 145 offers. 27% acceptance rate.
Sources:
https://www.graduate.study.cam.ac.uk/sites/www.2020.graduate.study.cam.ac.uk/files/graduate_admissions_report_2018-19_v4_0.pdf
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/specific_admission_statistics_fo#incoming-1047888
Great stats. Thanks for sharing.
Just an observation. If we included the data of applicants for the MCL programme and other taught law masters at Cambridge, the same should apply for Oxford. In other words, we should also include the data for the Oxford MLF programme etc. together with the BCL to have a better appreciation in the comparison.
Aside from this, it would be interesting to compare the applicants for the Cambridge MCL with the Oxford MLF.
Agreed. My instinct is other Oxford degrees easier to get into than BCL but haven’t looked for data yet
You may be right, but I am not sure. I haven't applied to read the BCL so my knowledge on the course is rather limited. But there is an interesting thread on Cambridge’s LLM vs Oxford’s BCL which is worth considering if you have not already:
https://llm-guide.com/board/uk-ireland/is-oxford-bcl-better-than-cambridge-llm-185603
As a general rule I think that the BCL is quite a bit more selective than the Cambridge LLM.[/quote]
Hello - is this myth or reality? Data shows close?
Cambridge - taught law masters. 1350 applications and 431 offers. 32% acceptance rate.
Oxford - BCL. 545 applications. 145 offers. 27% acceptance rate.
Sources:
https://www.graduate.study.cam.ac.uk/sites/www.2020.graduate.study.cam.ac.uk/files/graduate_admissions_report_2018-19_v4_0.pdf
https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/specific_admission_statistics_fo#incoming-1047888 [/quote]
Great stats. Thanks for sharing.
Just an observation. If we included the data of applicants for the MCL programme and other taught law masters at Cambridge, the same should apply for Oxford. In other words, we should also include the data for the Oxford MLF programme etc. together with the BCL to have a better appreciation in the comparison.
Aside from this, it would be interesting to compare the applicants for the Cambridge MCL with the Oxford MLF. [/quote]
Agreed. My instinct is other Oxford degrees easier to get into than BCL but haven’t looked for data yet [/quote]
You may be right, but I am not sure. I haven't applied to read the BCL so my knowledge on the course is rather limited. But there is an interesting thread on Cambridge’s LLM vs Oxford’s BCL which is worth considering if you have not already:
https://llm-guide.com/board/uk-ireland/is-oxford-bcl-better-than-cambridge-llm-185603
Posted Mar 04, 2020 04:54
Those most recent stats from the FOI request tend to confirm the anecdotal evidence / myth that acceptance into the BCL is exceedingly difficult.
Posted Mar 04, 2020 10:33
Anyone think we should call faculty for update? I know it’s only been 5 weeks but update good!
Posted Mar 04, 2020 10:53
I feel like could be earlier this year. Very nervous. Is Oxford harder to get into than Cambridge? Class size is smaller but also way less appliers.
As a general rule I think that the BCL is quite a bit more selective than the Cambridge LLM.
Well, you also have to take into account the fact that BCL is *only* for those from common law countries, whereas MJur is for civil law applicants. That being said, Cambridge does not have such distinction. In my view you should consider the BCL and MJur as 'two parts of the same programme', although I know historically the first used to be stronger.
As a general rule I think that the BCL is quite a bit more selective than the Cambridge LLM.[/quote]
Well, you also have to take into account the fact that BCL is *only* for those from common law countries, whereas MJur is for civil law applicants. That being said, Cambridge does not have such distinction. In my view you should consider the BCL and MJur as 'two parts of the same programme', although I know historically the first used to be stronger.
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