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Hi guys! Does everyone know when admitted students receive the scholarship results? Does it come with the offer letter in March? Thank you!

Hi guys! Does everyone know when admitted students receive the scholarship results? Does it come with the offer letter in March? Thank you!
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Inactive User

Hi all!

I unfortunately didn't make it into Cambridge. Based in this I wanted to know what my prospects of getting into Oxford are. So far I have gotten into Cornell and NYU, but after the most recent rejection I have no clue so as to what my position is.

I was really hoping to study in the UK, since it's a more affordable option for me as compared to the US, but given the serious blow to my self confidence I don't know where I stand or what to think. Any advice will be helpful.


Don't take it to heart, ann007.

All law schools get far more qualified candidates than they can accommodate, and it often turns out to be a matter of luck. It's not just how strong your profile was, but also how strong others were, and how unique you were in a particular cycle. It is not a reflection of how good or bad you are. Many people here have made it in their second or third tries, and you should keep trying if it matters so much to you.

Otherwise, I feel there is very little different between LLM programmes. NYU is brilliant, and I'm sure you would have another few applications pending. Remember, it matters not how many times you fail, but only the one time you succeed. Stay strong!



Thank you so much for your kind words, I really hope what your saying stands true. Although I was very disappointed, but life goes on. I just hope everything sorts itself. All I can do is hope right now to be honest. Lets see what happens.

[quote][quote]Hi all!

I unfortunately didn't make it into Cambridge. Based in this I wanted to know what my prospects of getting into Oxford are. So far I have gotten into Cornell and NYU, but after the most recent rejection I have no clue so as to what my position is.

I was really hoping to study in the UK, since it's a more affordable option for me as compared to the US, but given the serious blow to my self confidence I don't know where I stand or what to think. Any advice will be helpful. [/quote]

Don't take it to heart, ann007.

All law schools get far more qualified candidates than they can accommodate, and it often turns out to be a matter of luck. It's not just how strong your profile was, but also how strong others were, and how unique you were in a particular cycle. It is not a reflection of how good or bad you are. Many people here have made it in their second or third tries, and you should keep trying if it matters so much to you.

Otherwise, I feel there is very little different between LLM programmes. NYU is brilliant, and I'm sure you would have another few applications pending. Remember, it matters not how many times you fail, but only the one time you succeed. Stay strong!

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Thank you so much for your kind words, I really hope what your saying stands true. Although I was very disappointed, but life goes on. I just hope everything sorts itself. All I can do is hope right now to be honest. Lets see what happens.
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M2103

Just got an email from Oxford saying that they are making me an offer for the MSc Criminology and Criminal Justice !!

Just got an email from Oxford saying that they are making me an offer for the MSc Criminology and Criminal Justice !!
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Inactive User

Just got an email from Oxford saying that they are making me an offer for the MSc Criminology and Criminal Justice !!


Congratulations!!! Big achievement and great news. Did you expect a reply on this date, based on last year's trend, or it was unexpected? thanks and congrats

[quote]Just got an email from Oxford saying that they are making me an offer for the MSc Criminology and Criminal Justice !! [/quote]

Congratulations!!! Big achievement and great news. Did you expect a reply on this date, based on last year's trend, or it was unexpected? thanks and congrats
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M2103

Just got an email from Oxford saying that they are making me an offer for the MSc Criminology and Criminal Justice !!


Congratulations!!! Big achievement and great news. Did you expect a reply on this date, based on last year's trend, or it was unexpected? thanks and congrats


Thank you !! Really unexpected, I thought I was going to wait 2 more weeks ! Still waiting for an answer from the Mjur ! Good luck to you all :)

[quote][quote]Just got an email from Oxford saying that they are making me an offer for the MSc Criminology and Criminal Justice !! [/quote]

Congratulations!!! Big achievement and great news. Did you expect a reply on this date, based on last year's trend, or it was unexpected? thanks and congrats[/quote]

Thank you !! Really unexpected, I thought I was going to wait 2 more weeks ! Still waiting for an answer from the Mjur ! Good luck to you all :)
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llm97

When do BCL offers usually come out?

When do BCL offers usually come out?
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yolo

When do BCL offers usually come out?

I think last year offers for the MJur started around 20 March and the BCL offers came around 2 days earlier.

[quote]When do BCL offers usually come out? [/quote]
I think last year offers for the MJur started around 20 March and the BCL offers came around 2 days earlier.
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charlie89

Any chance earlier this year?

Any chance earlier this year?
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LLM20US/UK

I feel like could be earlier this year. Very nervous. Is Oxford harder to get into than Cambridge? Class size is smaller but also way less appliers.

I feel like could be earlier this year. Very nervous. Is Oxford harder to get into than Cambridge? Class size is smaller but also way less appliers.
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BACA

I feel like could be earlier this year. Very nervous. Is Oxford harder to get into than Cambridge? Class size is smaller but also way less appliers.


As a general rule I think that the BCL is quite a bit more selective than the Cambridge LLM.

[quote]I feel like could be earlier this year. Very nervous. Is Oxford harder to get into than Cambridge? Class size is smaller but also way less appliers. [/quote]

As a general rule I think that the BCL is quite a bit more selective than the Cambridge LLM.
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LLM20US/UK

I feel like could be earlier this year. Very nervous. Is Oxford harder to get into than Cambridge? Class size is smaller but also way less appliers.


As a general rule I think that the BCL is quite a bit more selective than the Cambridge LLM.


Hello - is this myth or reality? Data shows close?

Cambridge - taught law masters. 1350 applications and 431 offers. 32% acceptance rate.

Oxford - BCL. 545 applications. 145 offers. 27% acceptance rate.

Sources:

https://www.graduate.study.cam.ac.uk/sites/www.2020.graduate.study.cam.ac.uk/files/graduate_admissions_report_2018-19_v4_0.pdf

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/specific_admission_statistics_fo#incoming-1047888

[quote][quote]I feel like could be earlier this year. Very nervous. Is Oxford harder to get into than Cambridge? Class size is smaller but also way less appliers. [/quote]

As a general rule I think that the BCL is quite a bit more selective than the Cambridge LLM.[/quote]

Hello - is this myth or reality? Data shows close?

Cambridge - taught law masters. 1350 applications and 431 offers. 32% acceptance rate.

Oxford - BCL. 545 applications. 145 offers. 27% acceptance rate.

Sources:

https://www.graduate.study.cam.ac.uk/sites/www.2020.graduate.study.cam.ac.uk/files/graduate_admissions_report_2018-19_v4_0.pdf

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/specific_admission_statistics_fo#incoming-1047888
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charlie89

Very close !

Very close !
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LLM20US/UK

Further info FYI: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/bcl_admission_statistics_2#incoming-1528750

Further info FYI: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/bcl_admission_statistics_2#incoming-1528750
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BACA



Thanks for this. It makes for pretty grim reading for anyone not ranked in the top 3 of the undergraduate degree.

It's interesting that the FOI request asked for percentage rank, whereas the response seems to be on actual rank.

[quote]Further info FYI: https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/bcl_admission_statistics_2#incoming-1528750
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Thanks for this. It makes for pretty grim reading for anyone not ranked in the top 3 of the undergraduate degree.

It's interesting that the FOI request asked for percentage rank, whereas the response seems to be on actual rank.
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lustitia

I feel like could be earlier this year. Very nervous. Is Oxford harder to get into than Cambridge? Class size is smaller but also way less appliers.


As a general rule I think that the BCL is quite a bit more selective than the Cambridge LLM.


Hello - is this myth or reality? Data shows close?

Cambridge - taught law masters. 1350 applications and 431 offers. 32% acceptance rate.

Oxford - BCL. 545 applications. 145 offers. 27% acceptance rate.

Sources:

https://www.graduate.study.cam.ac.uk/sites/www.2020.graduate.study.cam.ac.uk/files/graduate_admissions_report_2018-19_v4_0.pdf

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/specific_admission_statistics_fo#incoming-1047888


Great stats. Thanks for sharing.

Just an observation. If we included the data of applicants for the MCL programme and other taught law masters at Cambridge, the same should apply for Oxford. In other words, we should also include the data for the Oxford MLF programme etc. together with the BCL to have a better appreciation in the comparison.

Aside from this, it would be interesting to compare the applicants for the Cambridge MCL with the Oxford MLF.

[Edited by lustitia on Mar 04, 2020]

[quote][quote][quote]I feel like could be earlier this year. Very nervous. Is Oxford harder to get into than Cambridge? Class size is smaller but also way less appliers. [/quote]

As a general rule I think that the BCL is quite a bit more selective than the Cambridge LLM.[/quote]

Hello - is this myth or reality? Data shows close?

Cambridge - taught law masters. 1350 applications and 431 offers. 32% acceptance rate.

Oxford - BCL. 545 applications. 145 offers. 27% acceptance rate.

Sources:

https://www.graduate.study.cam.ac.uk/sites/www.2020.graduate.study.cam.ac.uk/files/graduate_admissions_report_2018-19_v4_0.pdf

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/specific_admission_statistics_fo#incoming-1047888 [/quote]

Great stats. Thanks for sharing.

Just an observation. If we included the data of applicants for the MCL programme and other taught law masters at Cambridge, the same should apply for Oxford. In other words, we should also include the data for the Oxford MLF programme etc. together with the BCL to have a better appreciation in the comparison.

Aside from this, it would be interesting to compare the applicants for the Cambridge MCL with the Oxford MLF.
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LLM20US/UK



As a general rule I think that the BCL is quite a bit more selective than the Cambridge LLM.


Hello - is this myth or reality? Data shows close?

Cambridge - taught law masters. 1350 applications and 431 offers. 32% acceptance rate.

Oxford - BCL. 545 applications. 145 offers. 27% acceptance rate.

Sources:

https://www.graduate.study.cam.ac.uk/sites/www.2020.graduate.study.cam.ac.uk/files/graduate_admissions_report_2018-19_v4_0.pdf

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/specific_admission_statistics_fo#incoming-1047888


Great stats. Thanks for sharing.

Just an observation. If we included the data of applicants for the MCL programme and other taught law masters at Cambridge, the same should apply for Oxford. In other words, we should also include the data for the Oxford MLF programme etc. together with the BCL to have a better appreciation in the comparison.

Aside from this, it would be interesting to compare the applicants for the Cambridge MCL with the Oxford MLF.


Agreed.  My instinct is other Oxford degrees easier to get into than BCL but haven’t looked for data yet

[quote][quote][quote][quote]I feel like could be earlier this year. Very nervous. Is Oxford harder to get into than Cambridge? Class size is smaller but also way less appliers. [/quote]

As a general rule I think that the BCL is quite a bit more selective than the Cambridge LLM.[/quote]

Hello - is this myth or reality? Data shows close?

Cambridge - taught law masters. 1350 applications and 431 offers. 32% acceptance rate.

Oxford - BCL. 545 applications. 145 offers. 27% acceptance rate.

Sources:

https://www.graduate.study.cam.ac.uk/sites/www.2020.graduate.study.cam.ac.uk/files/graduate_admissions_report_2018-19_v4_0.pdf

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/specific_admission_statistics_fo#incoming-1047888 [/quote]

Great stats. Thanks for sharing.

Just an observation. If we included the data of applicants for the MCL programme and other taught law masters at Cambridge, the same should apply for Oxford. In other words, we should also include the data for the Oxford MLF programme etc. together with the BCL to have a better appreciation in the comparison.

Aside from this, it would be interesting to compare the applicants for the Cambridge MCL with the Oxford MLF. [/quote]

Agreed.  My instinct is other Oxford degrees easier to get into than BCL but haven’t looked for data yet
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lustitia



Hello - is this myth or reality? Data shows close?

Cambridge - taught law masters. 1350 applications and 431 offers. 32% acceptance rate.

Oxford - BCL. 545 applications. 145 offers. 27% acceptance rate.

Sources:

https://www.graduate.study.cam.ac.uk/sites/www.2020.graduate.study.cam.ac.uk/files/graduate_admissions_report_2018-19_v4_0.pdf

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/specific_admission_statistics_fo#incoming-1047888


Great stats. Thanks for sharing.

Just an observation. If we included the data of applicants for the MCL programme and other taught law masters at Cambridge, the same should apply for Oxford. In other words, we should also include the data for the Oxford MLF programme etc. together with the BCL to have a better appreciation in the comparison.

Aside from this, it would be interesting to compare the applicants for the Cambridge MCL with the Oxford MLF.


Agreed. My instinct is other Oxford degrees easier to get into than BCL but haven’t looked for data yet


You may be right, but I am not sure. I haven't applied to read the BCL so my knowledge on the course is rather limited. But there is an interesting thread on Cambridge’s LLM vs Oxford’s BCL which is worth considering if you have not already:

https://llm-guide.com/board/uk-ireland/is-oxford-bcl-better-than-cambridge-llm-185603

[quote][quote][quote][quote][quote]I feel like could be earlier this year. Very nervous. Is Oxford harder to get into than Cambridge? Class size is smaller but also way less appliers. [/quote]

As a general rule I think that the BCL is quite a bit more selective than the Cambridge LLM.[/quote]

Hello - is this myth or reality? Data shows close?

Cambridge - taught law masters. 1350 applications and 431 offers. 32% acceptance rate.

Oxford - BCL. 545 applications. 145 offers. 27% acceptance rate.

Sources:

https://www.graduate.study.cam.ac.uk/sites/www.2020.graduate.study.cam.ac.uk/files/graduate_admissions_report_2018-19_v4_0.pdf

https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/specific_admission_statistics_fo#incoming-1047888 [/quote]

Great stats. Thanks for sharing.

Just an observation. If we included the data of applicants for the MCL programme and other taught law masters at Cambridge, the same should apply for Oxford. In other words, we should also include the data for the Oxford MLF programme etc. together with the BCL to have a better appreciation in the comparison.

Aside from this, it would be interesting to compare the applicants for the Cambridge MCL with the Oxford MLF. [/quote]

Agreed. My instinct is other Oxford degrees easier to get into than BCL but haven’t looked for data yet [/quote]

You may be right, but I am not sure. I haven't applied to read the BCL so my knowledge on the course is rather limited. But there is an interesting thread on Cambridge’s LLM vs Oxford’s BCL which is worth considering if you have not already:

https://llm-guide.com/board/uk-ireland/is-oxford-bcl-better-than-cambridge-llm-185603
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BACA

Those most recent stats from the FOI request tend to confirm the anecdotal evidence / myth that acceptance into the BCL is exceedingly difficult.

Those most recent stats from the FOI request tend to confirm the anecdotal evidence / myth that acceptance into the BCL is exceedingly difficult.
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charlie89

Anyone think we should call faculty for update? I know it’s only been 5 weeks but update good!

Anyone think we should call faculty for update? I know it’s only been 5 weeks but update good!
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a.radulex

I feel like could be earlier this year. Very nervous. Is Oxford harder to get into than Cambridge? Class size is smaller but also way less appliers.


As a general rule I think that the BCL is quite a bit more selective than the Cambridge LLM.


Well, you also have to take into account the fact that BCL is *only* for those from common law countries, whereas MJur is for civil law applicants. That being said, Cambridge does not have such distinction. In my view you should consider the BCL and MJur as 'two parts of the same programme', although I know historically the first used to be stronger.

[quote][quote]I feel like could be earlier this year. Very nervous. Is Oxford harder to get into than Cambridge? Class size is smaller but also way less appliers. [/quote]

As a general rule I think that the BCL is quite a bit more selective than the Cambridge LLM.[/quote]

Well, you also have to take into account the fact that BCL is *only* for those from common law countries, whereas MJur is for civil law applicants. That being said, Cambridge does not have such distinction. In my view you should consider the BCL and MJur as 'two parts of the same programme', although I know historically the first used to be stronger.
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