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nicemanin

As i have applied in Georgetown in Business and Economic law and i got admission ... I will certainly prefer Georgetown over Kings in terms of all aspect... But when it comes for Fees... Hmmm... Than i will have to think for Kings...
There are certain more aspects for which we have to think.... like ... job prospects... But Georgetown is best at all... here i am not comparing it with any other law school... but it is far better than kings due to many reasons... In tax it is among top four in USA..

As i have applied in Georgetown in Business and Economic law and i got admission ... I will certainly prefer Georgetown over Kings in terms of all aspect... But when it comes for Fees... Hmmm... Than i will have to think for Kings...
There are certain more aspects for which we have to think.... like ... job prospects... But Georgetown is best at all... here i am not comparing it with any other law school... but it is far better than kings due to many reasons... In tax it is among top four in USA..
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banker3

I have applied to both as well
but I would say if you wanna stay in the states , GULC is better but for Europe I think they are both equaly prestigious

I have applied to both as well
but I would say if you wanna stay in the states , GULC is better but for Europe I think they are both equaly prestigious
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OpinioJuri...

Georgetown specializes not only in taxation, but also in corporate and securities law, public international law, constitutional law, cyberspace law and intellectual property law, among others. I suggest you visit the Georgetown Law Center web site to determine the school's core competencies. Also, you may want to visit its continuing legal education site.

Regardless of where you're from, both Georgetown and KCL offer good law programs. Deciding where to go should depend more on your personal preference and where you would fit in.

Georgetown specializes not only in taxation, but also in corporate and securities law, public international law, constitutional law, cyberspace law and intellectual property law, among others. I suggest you visit the Georgetown Law Center web site to determine the school's core competencies. Also, you may want to visit its continuing legal education site.

Regardless of where you're from, both Georgetown and KCL offer good law programs. Deciding where to go should depend more on your personal preference and where you would fit in.
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nicemanin

OpenionJuris you are absolutely right :)

OpenionJuris you are absolutely right :)
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banker3

Many thanks OpinioJuris !
How would you rank the first 15 law universities worlwide (USA and UK)/ Can we compare UCL /KCL to the ivy's in the states (except HLS/YLS)

Many thanks OpinioJuris !
How would you rank the first 15 law universities worlwide (USA and UK)/ Can we compare UCL /KCL to the ivy's in the states (except HLS/YLS)
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OpinioJuri...

nicemanin, congratulations on your admission to Georgetown. They have a great academic environment conducive to intellectual enquiry which will inspire you, at the heart of Washington, D.C. The faculty and the law school are highly regarded not just in the United States but throughout the world. All the best on your LLM year.

nicemanin, congratulations on your admission to Georgetown. They have a great academic environment conducive to intellectual enquiry which will inspire you, at the heart of Washington, D.C. The faculty and the law school are highly regarded not just in the United States but throughout the world. All the best on your LLM year.
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nicemanin

In EU... i am not sure to say but when i posted in a blog.... i got that LLM from US has better reputation in Law Firms at EU...

In EU... i am not sure to say but when i posted in a blog.... i got that LLM from US has better reputation in Law Firms at EU...
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nicemanin

Many thanks to you OpenionJuris.... i need your help if i will get confuse over choices of Law school in US... I think we all are waiting for our fate till Mid of April...

Many thanks to you OpenionJuris.... i need your help if i will get confuse over choices of Law school in US... I think we all are waiting for our fate till Mid of April...
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OpinioJuri...

Many thanks OpinioJuris !
How would you rank the first 15 law universities worlwide (USA and UK)/ Can we compare UCL /KCL to the ivy's in the states (except HLS/YLS)

The top British universities, namely, Oxford, Cambridge, LSE, UCL and KCL are comparable to the Ivy League universities, including HLS and YLS. I have personal knowledge that a number of Yale Law School alumni either prior, or subsequent to, attending YLS took a degree from Oxford, Cambridge, the London School of Economics or the federal University of London (UCL/KCL presumably).

<blockquote>Many thanks OpinioJuris !
How would you rank the first 15 law universities worlwide (USA and UK)/ Can we compare UCL /KCL to the ivy's in the states (except HLS/YLS)</blockquote>
The top British universities, namely, Oxford, Cambridge, LSE, UCL and KCL are comparable to the Ivy League universities, including HLS and YLS. I have personal knowledge that a number of Yale Law School alumni either prior, or subsequent to, attending YLS took a degree from Oxford, Cambridge, the London School of Economics or the federal University of London (UCL/KCL presumably).
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banker3

well that's good news OpinioJuris especially for some1 who can not afford the states .... i still have to decide between UCL/KCL since there is not point in paying a lot more for GULC

well that's good news OpinioJuris especially for some1 who can not afford the states .... i still have to decide between UCL/KCL since there is not point in paying a lot more for GULC
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Santa

The most important aspect for preferring a US degree to a UK degree is that most US law firms have a high preference for LLMs obtained in US top 10 law schools.

I have heard that some US law firms in my country prefer an LLM degree of Georgetown or Duke over an Oxbridge degree. Somewhat bizarre, but it's all about the clients and the US clients want lawyers who have studied in their country.

The most important aspect for preferring a US degree to a UK degree is that most US law firms have a high preference for LLMs obtained in US top 10 law schools.

I have heard that some US law firms in my country prefer an LLM degree of Georgetown or Duke over an Oxbridge degree. Somewhat bizarre, but it's all about the clients and the US clients want lawyers who have studied in their country.
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banker3

Santa,

I think you are right if you want to work in a US firm in the US. but what about US firms in the UK/EUR?

Santa,

I think you are right if you want to work in a US firm in the US. but what about US firms in the UK/EUR?
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OpinioJuri...

You'll receive a quality legal education whether in the U.K. or the U.S. You may notice that the highly regarded universities are either in the U.K. or the U.S. and ought to include British universities outside of London, Oxford or Cambridge as well. I would hasten to add that a number of European universities should also be in that category. The teaching method and academic approach may vary across the pond, but nevertheless British (and European) universities remain preeminent in the field of legal education.

For a U.S. legal education, you may wish to explore scholarship opportunities. It may be more expensive in the U.S., but they also have more scholarships available. You may also explore the option of working for a year after the completion of the LLM to recoup your expenses during your studies in America.

You'll receive a quality legal education whether in the U.K. or the U.S. You may notice that the highly regarded universities are either in the U.K. or the U.S. and ought to include British universities outside of London, Oxford or Cambridge as well. I would hasten to add that a number of European universities should also be in that category. The teaching method and academic approach may vary across the pond, but nevertheless British (and European) universities remain preeminent in the field of legal education.

For a U.S. legal education, you may wish to explore scholarship opportunities. It may be more expensive in the U.S., but they also have more scholarships available. You may also explore the option of working for a year after the completion of the LLM to recoup your expenses during your studies in America.
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OpinioJuri...

The most important aspect for preferring a US degree to a UK degree is that most US law firms have a high preference for LLMs obtained in US top 10 law schools.

I have heard that some US law firms in my country prefer an LLM degree of Georgetown or Duke over an Oxbridge degree. Somewhat bizarre, but it's all about the clients and the US clients want lawyers who have studied in their country.


This is not at all surprising, or even bizarre. It's all about practical application of the law. U.S. clients want lawyers who know U.S. law. That's why a Georgetown degree is preferred over an Oxbridge degree. An Oxbridge legal education tends to be highly theoretical, while a Georgetown legal education would provide the nuts and bolts of American law.

U.S. firms in the U.K./Europe would have an equal number of American-educated and U.K./European-educated associates in the U.K./Europe. U.S. firms in the U.K./Europe practice transnational law, so a working knowledge of U.S./U.K./European law from their associate attorneys is required.

<blockquote>The most important aspect for preferring a US degree to a UK degree is that most US law firms have a high preference for LLMs obtained in US top 10 law schools.

I have heard that some US law firms in my country prefer an LLM degree of Georgetown or Duke over an Oxbridge degree. Somewhat bizarre, but it's all about the clients and the US clients want lawyers who have studied in their country.</blockquote>

This is not at all surprising, or even bizarre. It's all about practical application of the law. U.S. clients want lawyers who know U.S. law. That's why a Georgetown degree is preferred over an Oxbridge degree. An Oxbridge legal education tends to be highly theoretical, while a Georgetown legal education would provide the nuts and bolts of American law.

U.S. firms in the U.K./Europe would have an equal number of American-educated and U.K./European-educated associates in the U.K./Europe. U.S. firms in the U.K./Europe practice transnational law, so a working knowledge of U.S./U.K./European law from their associate attorneys is required.
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nicemanin

OpinioJuris .. Is it possible for you to tel us more about US education system as i am unaware of it.. like in LLM, how will our grades be evaluated?.... Do we have to write dissertation or will there be semester exams at the end...?

OpinioJuris .. Is it possible for you to tel us more about US education system as i am unaware of it.. like in LLM, how will our grades be evaluated?.... Do we have to write dissertation or will there be semester exams at the end...?
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OpinioJuri...

With regard to pursuing an LLM in a U.S. university, you will be required to take courses for which you are given course credit upon completion. You need to complete approximately 24-26 credit units to earn your LLM (2 to 3 credit units are earned per course). You will be taking between 8 to 10 courses (4 to 5 courses per term) for the Fall and Winter/Spring Terms (unlike the British system where you take 4 courses for the entire year and get examined at the end of that year. In the U.S., you are examined at the end of the term, or every 3 or 4 months). You are assessed based on course work, short papers, class discussion and a final exam at the end of the term, for most classes. For seminar courses, a paper at the end of the term is usually required on a subject of law approved by the professor. Letter grades are usually given for all courses taken (A, A-, B+, B, C, D, F, etc.). The grading system varies per school. Yale Law School has attempted over the years to de-emphasize grades, so their grading system is High Pass, Pass or Fail (HP, P, F).

In some schools, you may opt to write an LLM paper of approximately 80-100 pages to be submitted during the Spring Term. In other schools, you may substitute the writing of an LLM paper in favor of additional courses. The duration of the LLM Program is nine months, from September to June.

With regard to pursuing an LLM in a U.S. university, you will be required to take courses for which you are given course credit upon completion. You need to complete approximately 24-26 credit units to earn your LLM (2 to 3 credit units are earned per course). You will be taking between 8 to 10 courses (4 to 5 courses per term) for the Fall and Winter/Spring Terms (unlike the British system where you take 4 courses for the entire year and get examined at the end of that year. In the U.S., you are examined at the end of the term, or every 3 or 4 months). You are assessed based on course work, short papers, class discussion and a final exam at the end of the term, for most classes. For seminar courses, a paper at the end of the term is usually required on a subject of law approved by the professor. Letter grades are usually given for all courses taken (A, A-, B+, B, C, D, F, etc.). The grading system varies per school. Yale Law School has attempted over the years to de-emphasize grades, so their grading system is High Pass, Pass or Fail (HP, P, F).

In some schools, you may opt to write an LLM paper of approximately 80-100 pages to be submitted during the Spring Term. In other schools, you may substitute the writing of an LLM paper in favor of additional courses. The duration of the LLM Program is nine months, from September to June.
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nicemanin

It is really a valuable information... Now i have made my mind for US... no doubt... US education system is the best...

It is really a valuable information... Now i have made my mind for US... no doubt... US education system is the best...
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atkins

I despise ranking schools. U.S. News and World Reports has hurt many U.S. law schools as a result of its simplistic ranking system. It is truly interesting that even after publicly berating this ranking system, many high or mid-ranked U.S. law schools covertly (and sometimes overtly) market their rankings. Having one's cake and eating it, too.

That said, Americans view Oxford as a premier institution, and is probably regarded more highly than Harvard and Yale. I think part of it is the allure of the Rhodes Scholarship, of which most educated people are aware.

Cambridge is a close second and is highly regarded, too -- especially by academics. U of London schools and LSE are much further down the list, especially outside of Washington DC and New York.

I despise ranking schools. U.S. News and World Reports has hurt many U.S. law schools as a result of its simplistic ranking system. It is truly interesting that even after publicly berating this ranking system, many high or mid-ranked U.S. law schools covertly (and sometimes overtly) market their rankings. Having one's cake and eating it, too.

That said, Americans view Oxford as a premier institution, and is probably regarded more highly than Harvard and Yale. I think part of it is the allure of the Rhodes Scholarship, of which most educated people are aware.

Cambridge is a close second and is highly regarded, too -- especially by academics. U of London schools and LSE are much further down the list, especially outside of Washington DC and New York.
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haveabook

Yes indeed.

Oxford is viewed as the best university in the world by most of Americans.

Yes indeed.

Oxford is viewed as the best university in the world by most of Americans.
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LLM555

I've noticed that many people rank Oxford and Cambridge's LLM program above LSE.

Why is this the case? It seems that LSE and a number of other school in UK offer specialized programs whereas Cambridge and Oxford offer only a general 1 year program without the chance for specialization. Am I wrong? Am I missing something? Is prestige all that matters?

I've noticed that many people rank Oxford and Cambridge's LLM program above LSE.

Why is this the case? It seems that LSE and a number of other school in UK offer specialized programs whereas Cambridge and Oxford offer only a general 1 year program without the chance for specialization. Am I wrong? Am I missing something? Is prestige all that matters?
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