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RMATIF
i have 6.o ielts and i want to do llm from u.k .can you tell me what college is best option for me ?
i have 6.o ielts and i want to do llm from u.k .can you tell me what college is best option for me ?
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Dutchman
You won't get into any proper law school with this score. Practise and repeat the test. Most universities request at least 6.5, Oxbridge 7.5.
But: Who selects an LL.M. programme by IELTS score anyway???
You won't get into any proper law school with this score. Practise and repeat the test. Most universities request at least 6.5, Oxbridge 7.5.
But: Who selects an LL.M. programme by IELTS score anyway???
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beicon
I'm with Dutchman on this one... take the test again and don't pick up an university based on IELTS requirements... that will only do you harm and you'll most likely just end up wasting your money...
I'm with Dutchman on this one... take the test again and don't pick up an university based on IELTS requirements... that will only do you harm and you'll most likely just end up wasting your money...
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RMATIF
Thank you so much Dutchman for your reply,but i already repeat it twice,i dont want to do it anymore...i heard about my agent about hertbord and northia uni...what about these unis?
Thank you so much Dutchman for your reply,but i already repeat it twice,i dont want to do it anymore...i heard about my agent about hertbord and northia uni...what about these unis?
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Alain
Thank you so much Dutchman for your reply,but i already repeat it twice,i dont want to do it anymore...i heard about my agent about hertbord and northia uni...what about these unis?


You should hire a new agent. Hertbord and Northia don't even exist.
<blockquote>Thank you so much Dutchman for your reply,but i already repeat it twice,i dont want to do it anymore...i heard about my agent about hertbord and northia uni...what about these unis?</blockquote>

You should hire a new agent. Hertbord and Northia don't even exist.
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Floris
perhaps you should take the TOEFL iBT,
some people say, that it is slightly easier than IELTS - and a lot of law schools, also accept the TOEFL.

Furthermore it depends on the target you want to achieve. Do you want to specialize by taking some very rare programs- or do you just want to get that foreign country law school experience, that a lot of people want to have in their cv. Than i would propose that you do the application on law schools with programs less popular.
perhaps you should take the TOEFL iBT,
some people say, that it is slightly easier than IELTS - and a lot of law schools, also accept the TOEFL.

Furthermore it depends on the target you want to achieve. Do you want to specialize by taking some very rare programs- or do you just want to get that foreign country law school experience, that a lot of people want to have in their cv. Than i would propose that you do the application on law schools with programs less popular.
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RMATIF
Thank you so much again ,if i have no option wiht this band score in good law school,then i have another option i have an offer letter for associate degree in legal studies from australian university........

what about this program?

best regards.
Thank you so much again ,if i have no option wiht this band score in good law school,then i have another option i have an offer letter for associate degree in legal studies from australian university........

what about this program?

best regards.
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ihb85
I have more or less a similar problem - scored 7,5 IELTS overall band, but 6,5 in speaking, which seemed to be the easiest for me as I used to live in USA and England (underestimated it when they asked me about favourite toy as a kid and gardens in the city :D) do you think that would be a problem when applying to UCL, KCL, LSE, QMUL etc.
I have more or less a similar problem - scored 7,5 IELTS overall band, but 6,5 in speaking, which seemed to be the easiest for me as I used to live in USA and England (underestimated it when they asked me about favourite toy as a kid and gardens in the city :D) do you think that would be a problem when applying to UCL, KCL, LSE, QMUL etc.
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Dutchman
You should call them, but if you have time and are in doubt, repeat the test. It's really not too difficult to score high points if you practise enough. I managed to get 8.5 overall with approx. 2 weeks of preparation.
I have got the impression, however, that the speaking section very much depends on the person interviewing you. I could imagine that some test personnel (unconsciously) might request a higher level. So perhaps it would be a good idea to try another testing location?
You should call them, but if you have time and are in doubt, repeat the test. It's really not too difficult to score high points if you practise enough. I managed to get 8.5 overall with approx. 2 weeks of preparation.
I have got the impression, however, that the speaking section very much depends on the person interviewing you. I could imagine that some test personnel (unconsciously) might request a higher level. So perhaps it would be a good idea to try another testing location?
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ihb85
Thanks for the quick reply. Since I plan to apply for the 2011-2012 school year I think I have plenty of time to take it again but will certainly ask whether I need to. You're right, it's not a hard test, but I had just a little time for preparation.
Good luck!
Thanks for the quick reply. Since I plan to apply for the 2011-2012 school year I think I have plenty of time to take it again but will certainly ask whether I need to. You're right, it's not a hard test, but I had just a little time for preparation.
Good luck!
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beicon
If you're applying for 2011/12, why don't you put together your application documents, leave the test for later and enrol on some English school (specialised or not in IELTS exams) for a few months and see what happens? Far more troublesome than the test will be your life at school if you can't really understand or speak English...
If you're applying for 2011/12, why don't you put together your application documents, leave the test for later and enrol on some English school (specialised or not in IELTS exams) for a few months and see what happens? Far more troublesome than the test will be your life at school if you can't really understand or speak English...
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beicon
I have more or less a similar problem - scored 7,5 IELTS overall band, but 6,5 in speaking, which seemed to be the easiest for me as I used to live in USA and England (underestimated it when they asked me about favourite toy as a kid and gardens in the city :D) do you think that would be a problem when applying to UCL, KCL, LSE, QMUL etc.


I don't have the requirements to hand right now, but I reckon with a 7.5 overall and a 6.5 in the speaking part you can meet the requirements for all the universities you mention (unless you got any other sub-test below 6.5...)
<blockquote>I have more or less a similar problem - scored 7,5 IELTS overall band, but 6,5 in speaking, which seemed to be the easiest for me as I used to live in USA and England (underestimated it when they asked me about favourite toy as a kid and gardens in the city :D) do you think that would be a problem when applying to UCL, KCL, LSE, QMUL etc. </blockquote>

I don't have the requirements to hand right now, but I reckon with a 7.5 overall and a 6.5 in the speaking part you can meet the requirements for all the universities you mention (unless you got any other sub-test below 6.5...)
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ihb85
I have more or less a similar problem - scored 7,5 IELTS overall band, but 6,5 in speaking, which seemed to be the easiest for me as I used to live in USA and England (underestimated it when they asked me about favourite toy as a kid and gardens in the city :D) do you think that would be a problem when applying to UCL, KCL, LSE, QMUL etc.


I don't have the requirements to hand right now, but I reckon with a 7.5 overall and a 6.5 in the speaking part you can meet the requirements for all the universities you mention (unless you got any other sub-test below 6.5...)


Thanks for the reply. I share your opinion and after I checked the requirements I found that my result is good enough except for Kings where they ask for an overall of 7 and 7 in all subtests but I hope I'll be able to convince them since I'm doing and internship right now and plan to work a bit after that and don't really have much time to retake the test.
<blockquote><blockquote>I have more or less a similar problem - scored 7,5 IELTS overall band, but 6,5 in speaking, which seemed to be the easiest for me as I used to live in USA and England (underestimated it when they asked me about favourite toy as a kid and gardens in the city :D) do you think that would be a problem when applying to UCL, KCL, LSE, QMUL etc. </blockquote>

I don't have the requirements to hand right now, but I reckon with a 7.5 overall and a 6.5 in the speaking part you can meet the requirements for all the universities you mention (unless you got any other sub-test below 6.5...)</blockquote>

Thanks for the reply. I share your opinion and after I checked the requirements I found that my result is good enough except for Kings where they ask for an overall of 7 and 7 in all subtests but I hope I'll be able to convince them since I'm doing and internship right now and plan to work a bit after that and don't really have much time to retake the test.
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I have scored 6.5 in reading 6.5 in listening and 6.5 in speaking but scored bad in writing that is 5 overall I got 6 will I get admission in uk Canada or Singapore in llm course
I have scored 6.5 in reading 6.5 in listening and 6.5 in speaking but scored bad in writing that is 5 overall I got 6 will I get admission in uk Canada or Singapore in llm course
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beicon
I have scored 6.5 in reading 6.5 in listening and 6.5 in speaking but scored bad in writing that is 5 overall I got 6 will I get admission in uk Canada or Singapore in llm course


Re-take the exam. With this score you ain't getting no-where in UK or Canada (don't know about Singapore). Sorry, but it's that simple.
<blockquote>I have scored 6.5 in reading 6.5 in listening and 6.5 in speaking but scored bad in writing that is 5 overall I got 6 will I get admission in uk Canada or Singapore in llm course</blockquote>

Re-take the exam. With this score you ain't getting no-where in UK or Canada (don't know about Singapore). Sorry, but it's that simple.
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flori
Hello everyone,


Re-take the exam. With this score you ain't getting no-where in UK or Canada (don't know about Singapore). Sorry, but it's that simple.


Sorry, but that is simply false. Sometimes or maybe even most of the time the requirements posted on the respective webpages are not the "real" requirements. I personally know one example, where an UK university with a decent reputation published the requirement of a 7.0 in the IELTS, but admitted someone with an overall score of 6.0 and roughly the same mark distribution as presented in the posting above.

Bye
flori
Hello everyone,

<blockquote>
Re-take the exam. With this score you ain't getting no-where in UK or Canada (don't know about Singapore). Sorry, but it's that simple. </blockquote>

Sorry, but that is simply false. Sometimes or maybe even most of the time the requirements posted on the respective webpages are not the "real" requirements. I personally know one example, where an UK university with a decent reputation published the requirement of a 7.0 in the IELTS, but admitted someone with an overall score of 6.0 and roughly the same mark distribution as presented in the posting above.

Bye
flori
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beicon
Hello everyone,


Re-take the exam. With this score you ain't getting no-where in UK or Canada (don't know about Singapore). Sorry, but it's that simple.


Sorry, but that is simply false. Sometimes or maybe even most of the time the requirements posted on the respective webpages are not the "real" requirements. I personally know one example, where an UK university with a decent reputation published the requirement of a 7.0 in the IELTS, but admitted someone with an overall score of 6.0 and roughly the same mark distribution as presented in the posting above.

Bye
flori


Ok.

What do you mean by decent reputation? Does decent reputation comprise universities such as UCL, KCL, QML, LSE, Cambridge, Oxford??? Or only second tier universities? If you mean second tier universities, it's possible that you're right... I based my statement on first tier schools.

Regarding schools such as UCL, KCL, QML, LSE, Cambridge and Oxford, I have an actual personal experience to back up my opinion. My fiancée got offers from UCL, KCL, King's, LSE and QML for the 2010/11 intake. All of those offers were conditional on her reaching the minimum requirements stated on the program's respective website.

She took the exams 3 or 4 times (can't remember now) and always missed something, either the minimum requirements for speaking, writing or reading (even though she was able to get the overall grade required). She sent around a few emails and none of the universities was willing to accept her with a grade lower than the one stated on their websites.

The only one that made an "exception" was King's. And it's not that they accepted her with a lower grade. It's just that they decided to take into account a combination of all her results (all four test combined, she had the overall 7.0 with a minimum of 7.0 in each specific part - which is the minimum requirement they set for the LLM).

Moreover, with a 6.0 you're probably gonna have a hard time either understanding what people say or writing your exams and essays. So, I still think it's better to re-take the exam.

Best,
<blockquote>Hello everyone,

<blockquote>
Re-take the exam. With this score you ain't getting no-where in UK or Canada (don't know about Singapore). Sorry, but it's that simple. </blockquote>

Sorry, but that is simply false. Sometimes or maybe even most of the time the requirements posted on the respective webpages are not the "real" requirements. I personally know one example, where an UK university with a decent reputation published the requirement of a 7.0 in the IELTS, but admitted someone with an overall score of 6.0 and roughly the same mark distribution as presented in the posting above.

Bye
flori</blockquote>

Ok.

What do you mean by decent reputation? Does decent reputation comprise universities such as UCL, KCL, QML, LSE, Cambridge, Oxford??? Or only second tier universities? If you mean second tier universities, it's possible that you're right... I based my statement on first tier schools.

Regarding schools such as UCL, KCL, QML, LSE, Cambridge and Oxford, I have an actual personal experience to back up my opinion. My fiancée got offers from UCL, KCL, King's, LSE and QML for the 2010/11 intake. All of those offers were conditional on her reaching the minimum requirements stated on the program's respective website.

She took the exams 3 or 4 times (can't remember now) and always missed something, either the minimum requirements for speaking, writing or reading (even though she was able to get the overall grade required). She sent around a few emails and none of the universities was willing to accept her with a grade lower than the one stated on their websites.

The only one that made an "exception" was King's. And it's not that they accepted her with a lower grade. It's just that they decided to take into account a combination of all her results (all four test combined, she had the overall 7.0 with a minimum of 7.0 in each specific part - which is the minimum requirement they set for the LLM).

Moreover, with a 6.0 you're probably gonna have a hard time either understanding what people say or writing your exams and essays. So, I still think it's better to re-take the exam.

Best,


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Pit Possum
I have scored 6.5 in reading 6.5 in listening and 6.5 in speaking but scored bad in writing that is 5 overall I got 6 will I get admission in uk Canada or Singapore in llm course


Re-take the exam. With this score you ain't getting no-where in UK or Canada (don't know about Singapore). Sorry, but it's that simple.


Hi,

nothing of your statement implied that it was restricted to first tier schools, so Flori was right to correct you. The term "nowwhere" is pretty unequivocal. Plus, the question did not refer to those kind of law schools. The term "decent" also does not include "top notch" law schools.

Finally, the original question did not address the issue of being able to understand classes, but was directed at entry requirements.

Some people make important decisions on account of information given in this forum. Thus, you should take a little more time for addressing their concerns instead of giving a general statement which might be misleading.

Kind regards
<blockquote><blockquote>I have scored 6.5 in reading 6.5 in listening and 6.5 in speaking but scored bad in writing that is 5 overall I got 6 will I get admission in uk Canada or Singapore in llm course</blockquote>

Re-take the exam. With this score you ain't getting no-where in UK or Canada (don't know about Singapore). Sorry, but it's that simple. </blockquote>

Hi,

nothing of your statement implied that it was restricted to first tier schools, so Flori was right to correct you. The term "nowwhere" is pretty unequivocal. Plus, the question did not refer to those kind of law schools. The term "decent" also does not include "top notch" law schools.

Finally, the original question did not address the issue of being able to understand classes, but was directed at entry requirements.

Some people make important decisions on account of information given in this forum. Thus, you should take a little more time for addressing their concerns instead of giving a general statement which might be misleading.

Kind regards
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beicon
Before you blab on any further, you should first have a look at my history here on LLM guide. I've been coming to this forum for quite a long time now and have always tried my best to help people out.

Ok, you're right that the thread talks about entry requirements. But have you actually had a look at how poorly written the initial post was? I'm not trying to hurt the person who wrote it nor am I trying to be rude. But we gotta be realistic here! If you can't manage to write a two-sentence post properly and you can't get more than 5 in the written exam, you may get offers from a few "decent" law schools, but you're not gonna be able to keep up with the course. Not even in a decent law school.

Im not a native English speaker and Im sure I make plenty of mistakes when Im either writing or speaking. But I think Ive learned enough to get around pretty fine.

Furthermore, why on earth are you gonna spend time and money on a "decent" university? When you settle for "decent" right at first, you're not pushing yourself to the limit. Why dont you put time and effort on learning the language before you apply? Learn the language and aim high. Go for the best universities around. If you still fail after that, maybe you can start thinking about decent universities.

If people come here just to hear compliments, then Im sorry. But Im actually trying to help. I dont think telling the guy: Hey, dont worry. With your 5 you can get offers from x, y and z (being x, y and z universities that will add nothing to your CV or your life and will only make you waste time and money) is the best way to go about helping people.

I was just telling the truth. I wasnt being rude to either the original poster or Flori. If thats how my post came across, Im sorry. But Im not gonna lie and they the guy hes got a shot when I truly believe he doesnt.

My first post here on LLM Guide was asking people what they thought about my chances of getting into LLM programs. And Im truly grateful to those that replied honestly, saying that based on what Id told them I was very unlikely to get offers from Cambridge and Oxford. I wasn't pissed off at them for that.

Now, if you still want to barge in and pretend to be Mr. I know it all, fine. Be my guest. Ive finished my LLM anyways. The only reason Im here is to try to pass forward a bit of what Ive learned regarding applications, requirements and the LLM. If the only people around to read these posts are like you, who want nothing but to butt in and talk bulls***t, then Im done.
Before you blab on any further, you should first have a look at my history here on LLM guide. I've been coming to this forum for quite a long time now and have always tried my best to help people out.

Ok, you're right that the thread talks about entry requirements. But have you actually had a look at how poorly written the initial post was? I'm not trying to hurt the person who wrote it nor am I trying to be rude. But we gotta be realistic here! If you can't manage to write a two-sentence post properly and you can't get more than 5 in the written exam, you may get offers from a few "decent" law schools, but you're not gonna be able to keep up with the course. Not even in a “decent” law school.

I’m not a native English speaker and I’m sure I make plenty of mistakes when I’m either writing or speaking. But I think I’ve learned enough to get around pretty fine.

Furthermore, why on earth are you gonna spend time and money on a "decent" university? When you settle for "decent" right at first, you're not pushing yourself to the limit. Why don’t you put time and effort on learning the language before you apply? Learn the language and aim high. Go for the best universities around. If you still fail after that, maybe you can start thinking about “decent” universities.

If people come here just to hear compliments, then I’m sorry. But I’m actually trying to help. I don’t think telling the guy: “Hey, don’t worry. With your 5 you can get offers from x, y and z (being x, y and z universities that will add nothing to your CV or your life and will only make you waste time and money)” is the best way to go about helping people.

I was just telling the truth. I wasn’t being rude to either the original poster or Flori. If that’s how my post came across, I’m sorry. But I’m not gonna lie and they the guy he’s got a shot when I truly believe he doesn’t.

My first post here on LLM Guide was asking people what they thought about my chances of getting into LLM programs. And I’m truly grateful to those that replied honestly, saying that based on what I’d told them I was very unlikely to get offers from Cambridge and Oxford. I wasn't pissed off at them for that.

Now, if you still want to barge in and pretend to be Mr. I know it all, fine. Be my guest. I’ve finished my LLM anyways. The only reason I’m here is to try to pass forward a bit of what I’ve learned regarding applications, requirements and the LLM. If the only people around to read these posts are like you, who want nothing but to butt in and talk bulls***t, then I’m done.
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Head2
I think it's really stupid to attack beicon like this. He is has been a top contributor to the llm-guide board for many years and this board wouldn't be as useful if there weren't people like him who actually have done an LLM and know what they are talking about.

Beicon, please don't stop posting here, there are many others who appreciate your help!
I think it's really stupid to attack beicon like this. He is has been a top contributor to the llm-guide board for many years and this board wouldn't be as useful if there weren't people like him who actually have done an LLM and know what they are talking about.

Beicon, please don't stop posting here, there are many others who appreciate your help!
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