LLM in Int. Law Leiden Sept. 07


Got my housing offer - Smaragdlaan 224

Not what I was hoping for, but really as long as its got a roof and four walls I'll be fine.


I've received mine as well - Hugo de Grootstraat / Horizon House 84. Very pleased! Any street named after the 'father of international law' has to be interesting...

<blockquote>Got my housing offer - Smaragdlaan 224

Not what I was hoping for, but really as long as its got a roof and four walls I'll be fine. </blockquote>

I've received mine as well - Hugo de Grootstraat / Horizon House 84. Very pleased! Any street named after the 'father of international law' has to be interesting...
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kris1984

Any street named after the 'father of international law' has to be interesting...


Not only that: The building used to be part of the Faculty of Law!

<blockquote> Any street named after the 'father of international law' has to be interesting... </blockquote>

Not only that: The building used to be part of the Faculty of Law!
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illy

hmm just with this health insrance thing .. i might go with AON. It looks like it has more coverage. anyway i just asked for a quote so we'll see how expensive it is.
this is prob a really really dumb question, but how is everyone going to transfer money from their home bank accounts to the Dutch one? do we just make prior arrangements with our banks for an international transfer or something?

hmm just with this health insrance thing .. i might go with AON. It looks like it has more coverage. anyway i just asked for a quote so we'll see how expensive it is.
this is prob a really really dumb question, but how is everyone going to transfer money from their home bank accounts to the Dutch one? do we just make prior arrangements with our banks for an international transfer or something?
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illy

hmm i think i figured the banking thing out. it's all good. should have checked my bank website BEFORE i wrote that post .... ;)

hmm i think i figured the banking thing out. it's all good. should have checked my bank website BEFORE i wrote that post .... ;)
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How are you planning to do it?!?

I haven't thought about that, but what I've done in the past is taken an amount of cash then used a Visa card linked to my bank account here... obviously however that's not going to be appropriate to pay rent etc...

How are you planning to do it?!?

I haven't thought about that, but what I've done in the past is taken an amount of cash then used a Visa card linked to my bank account here... obviously however that's not going to be appropriate to pay rent etc...
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illy

i do internet banking, and there's a facility where i can do international transfers over the net. otherwise i'm not sure what you would do otherwise. sorry cant be of more help. :/

i do internet banking, and there's a facility where i can do international transfers over the net. otherwise i'm not sure what you would do otherwise. sorry cant be of more help. :/
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kris1984

The Law Faculty and Campus Den Haag have made a number of agreements about the teaching locations. All the full-time programmes will be taught in Leiden, apart from International Public Law. This will be given half in Leiden and half in The Hague because of the proximity of the international legal institutions, such as the Peace Palace.

http://www.leidenslatest.leidenuniv.nl/index.php3?m=1&t=4&link_url=http://www.research.leidenuniv.nl&link_id=352&link_extern=1

The Law Faculty and Campus Den Haag have made a number of agreements about the teaching locations. All the full-time programmes will be taught in Leiden, apart from International Public Law. This will be given half in Leiden and half in The Hague because of the proximity of the international legal institutions, such as the Peace Palace.

http://www.leidenslatest.leidenuniv.nl/index.php3?m=1&t=4&link_url=http://www.research.leidenuniv.nl&link_id=352&link_extern=1
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illy

cool. we of horizon house are pretty close to the law faculty right - bike ride anyone? i guess its a short train ride when we have classes in The Hague.

cool. we of horizon house are pretty close to the law faculty right - bike ride anyone? i guess its a short train ride when we have classes in The Hague.
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kris1984

It's like 1km. The Hague is 10-15 by tram I think...

It's like 1km. The Hague is 10-15 by tram I think...
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illy

0.9 km to be precise. are there trams in the netherlands?? wow. i thought just trains. we have heaps of trams here in melbourne. tram city.

0.9 km to be precise. are there trams in the netherlands?? wow. i thought just trains. we have heaps of trams here in melbourne. tram city.
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paulnz

There are certainly trams in the Netherlands, but I don't think they're in Leiden. As far as I know the trams only operate within the cities, not between them. I think it will be a train trip from Leiden to the Hague.

There are certainly trams in the Netherlands, but I don't think they're in Leiden. As far as I know the trams only operate within the cities, not between them. I think it will be a train trip from Leiden to the Hague.
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illy

yeah those were my thoughts exactly. i heard there is an excellent train network in the netherlands and germany belgium etc etc.

yeah those were my thoughts exactly. i heard there is an excellent train network in the netherlands and germany belgium etc etc.
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cinca

It looks like everyone was accepted to Leiden. So they are not too selective or all applicants were so good?
What grades did you obtain as a LLB student?
I am interested in applying for february 08 start. Thanks

It looks like everyone was accepted to Leiden. So they are not too selective or all applicants were so good?
What grades did you obtain as a LLB student?
I am interested in applying for february 08 start. Thanks
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kris1984

We're just a very strong group.

I, myself, for instance, am a highly decorated plumbers assistant.

Pipe dope anyone?

We're just a very strong group.

I, myself, for instance, am a highly decorated plumbers assistant.

Pipe dope anyone?
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It looks like everyone was accepted to Leiden. So they are not too selective or all applicants were so good?
What grades did you obtain as a LLB student?
I am interested in applying for february 08 start. Thanks


Haha, I agree with the post above... maybe Leiden simply attracts the best. Not sure how I fit in there though!

Just to note that not everyone here is from the UK or another commonwealth country that uses the LLB as the primary law degree, but I know that Leiden ask for a 2.1 as a minimum.

<blockquote>It looks like everyone was accepted to Leiden. So they are not too selective or all applicants were so good?
What grades did you obtain as a LLB student?
I am interested in applying for february 08 start. Thanks</blockquote>

Haha, I agree with the post above... maybe Leiden simply attracts the best. Not sure how I fit in there though!

Just to note that not everyone here is from the UK or another commonwealth country that uses the LLB as the primary law degree, but I know that Leiden ask for a 2.1 as a minimum.
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paulnz

Just to note that not everyone here is from the UK or another commonwealth country that uses the LLB as the primary law degree, but I know that Leiden ask for a 2.1 as a minimum.


I guess you use different GPA calculations in the UK. A 2.1 in NZ would be a "C" grade, and I would think the entry requirements at Leiden are higher than that.

<blockquote>Just to note that not everyone here is from the UK or another commonwealth country that uses the LLB as the primary law degree, but I know that Leiden ask for a 2.1 as a minimum.</blockquote>

I guess you use different GPA calculations in the UK. A 2.1 in NZ would be a "C" grade, and I would think the entry requirements at Leiden are higher than that.
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Just to note that not everyone here is from the UK or another commonwealth country that uses the LLB as the primary law degree, but I know that Leiden ask for a 2.1 as a minimum.


I guess you use different GPA calculations in the UK. A 2.1 in NZ would be a "C" grade, and I would think the entry requirements at Leiden are higher than that.


Only around 10 to 15% of students in the UK - perhaps even less in law, certainly at my law school - would get above a 2.1 so it's pretty high. I don't want to get into a whole debate on what I'm going to say next, because people can argue on this point endlessly, but at some universities (I can point to the two in my neck of the woods) there are differences in standard needed for a 2.1. I would say that if Leiden asked UK students for a 1st instead of a 2.1 they wouldn't get too many.

<blockquote><blockquote>Just to note that not everyone here is from the UK or another commonwealth country that uses the LLB as the primary law degree, but I know that Leiden ask for a 2.1 as a minimum.</blockquote>

I guess you use different GPA calculations in the UK. A 2.1 in NZ would be a "C" grade, and I would think the entry requirements at Leiden are higher than that.</blockquote>

Only around 10 to 15% of students in the UK - perhaps even less in law, certainly at my law school - would get above a 2.1 so it's pretty high. I don't want to get into a whole debate on what I'm going to say next, because people can argue on this point endlessly, but at some universities (I can point to the two in my neck of the woods) there are differences in standard needed for a 2.1. I would say that if Leiden asked UK students for a 1st instead of a 2.1 they wouldn't get too many.
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paulnz

Only around 10 to 15% of students in the UK - perhaps even less in law, certainly at my law school - would get above a 2.1 so it's pretty high. I don't want to get into a whole debate on what I'm going to say next, because people can argue on this point endlessly, but at some universities (I can point to the two in my neck of the woods) there are differences in standard needed for a 2.1. I would say that if Leiden asked UK students for a 1st instead of a 2.1 they wouldn't get too many.


By "2.1" are you meaning second class honours, first division?

I was thinking of the GPA system we use here where a C- (50-54%) is a 1 and an A+ (90-100%) is a 9.

<blockquote>Only around 10 to 15% of students in the UK - perhaps even less in law, certainly at my law school - would get above a 2.1 so it's pretty high. I don't want to get into a whole debate on what I'm going to say next, because people can argue on this point endlessly, but at some universities (I can point to the two in my neck of the woods) there are differences in standard needed for a 2.1. I would say that if Leiden asked UK students for a 1st instead of a 2.1 they wouldn't get too many.</blockquote>

By "2.1" are you meaning second class honours, first division?

I was thinking of the GPA system we use here where a C- (50-54%) is a 1 and an A+ (90-100%) is a 9.
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kris1984

At Amsterdam U., the Master's minimum is an overall of B. So, for the LLM, it is probably similar or a little higher. Remember, grades are not definitive; letter of reference, personal statement, CV all play a part too.

Only way to know is to apply! Leiden has started accepting applications online now too. You can even scan and attach documents to your file electronically. (I applied by mail though...)

At Amsterdam U., the Master's minimum is an overall of B. So, for the LLM, it is probably similar or a little higher. Remember, grades are not definitive; letter of reference, personal statement, CV all play a part too.

Only way to know is to apply! Leiden has started accepting applications online now too. You can even scan and attach documents to your file electronically. (I applied by mail though...)
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illy

that's very true. they look at the overall application.
i can't wait now. the 9 to 5 is pissing me off. need to get awaaay from here. i only have around 3 weeks left at work!! :) is anyone arriving in leiden after the 30th? or am i going to be one of the latecomers (warning: this is typical of me). .... ;)

that's very true. they look at the overall application.
i can't wait now. the 9 to 5 is pissing me off. need to get awaaay from here. i only have around 3 weeks left at work!! :) is anyone arriving in leiden after the 30th? or am i going to be one of the latecomers (warning: this is typical of me). .... ;)
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