LLM in Int. Law Leiden Sept. 07


Only around 10 to 15% of students in the UK - perhaps even less in law, certainly at my law school - would get above a 2.1 so it's pretty high. I don't want to get into a whole debate on what I'm going to say next, because people can argue on this point endlessly, but at some universities (I can point to the two in my neck of the woods) there are differences in standard needed for a 2.1. I would say that if Leiden asked UK students for a 1st instead of a 2.1 they wouldn't get too many.


By "2.1" are you meaning second class honours, first division?

I was thinking of the GPA system we use here where a C- (50-54%) is a 1 and an A+ (90-100%) is a 9.


Yes, an upper second class degree. It's nigh on impossible to get higher than 80% in exams here so maybe the systems aren't really comparable in terms of percentage grades etc... who knows how they pick people!

<blockquote><blockquote>Only around 10 to 15% of students in the UK - perhaps even less in law, certainly at my law school - would get above a 2.1 so it's pretty high. I don't want to get into a whole debate on what I'm going to say next, because people can argue on this point endlessly, but at some universities (I can point to the two in my neck of the woods) there are differences in standard needed for a 2.1. I would say that if Leiden asked UK students for a 1st instead of a 2.1 they wouldn't get too many.</blockquote>

By "2.1" are you meaning second class honours, first division?

I was thinking of the GPA system we use here where a C- (50-54%) is a 1 and an A+ (90-100%) is a 9.</blockquote>

Yes, an upper second class degree. It's nigh on impossible to get higher than 80% in exams here so maybe the systems aren't really comparable in terms of percentage grades etc... who knows how they pick people!
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kris1984

I called the rental office in Leiden - the woman said they only take wire transfers. She didn't know how much the fee to receive would be, so I had to call the bank. So, for around 1000euro the fee charged to the rental office (which you have to pay too) is between 10 and 45 euro. She told me 10 euro if everything is OK and up to 45 euro if there is problems with the wire ("ahh...uhh..can you explain what 'problems' are?"). A "problem" might be if the SWIFT code is wrong etc... for whatever that's worth.

PS Wire transfers blow. Why can't I do it from online banking? This is 2007! Back in the 60's they promised us flying cars by now for f-ing sake! I want my flying car!! aarrgg

I called the rental office in Leiden - the woman said they only take wire transfers. She didn't know how much the fee to receive would be, so I had to call the bank. So, for around 1000euro the fee charged to the rental office (which you have to pay too) is between 10 and 45 euro. She told me 10 euro if everything is OK and up to 45 euro if there is problems with the wire ("ahh...uhh..can you explain what 'problems' are?"). A "problem" might be if the SWIFT code is wrong etc... for whatever that's worth.

PS Wire transfers blow. Why can't I do it from online banking? This is 2007! Back in the 60's they promised us flying cars by now for f-ing sake! I want my flying car!! aarrgg
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domina

About the addmission to Amsterdam univ.- someone from there responded to my question about grades and addmission and said that they don t look the grades- that they do not have a numerus fixus. You just have to finish your undergraduate study and attach all the documents. That means for me that everyone can be accepted to Amsterdam Univ. A bout Leidn I don t know. Bye

About the addmission to Amsterdam univ.- someone from there responded to my question about grades and addmission and said that they don t look the grades- that they do not have a numerus fixus. You just have to finish your undergraduate study and attach all the documents. That means for me that everyone can be accepted to Amsterdam Univ. A bout Leidn I don t know. Bye
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I called the rental office in Leiden - the woman said they only take wire transfers. She didn't know how much the fee to receive would be, so I had to call the bank. So, for around 1000euro the fee charged to the rental office (which you have to pay too) is between 10 and 45 euro. She told me 10 euro if everything is OK and up to 45 euro if there is problems with the wire ("ahh...uhh..can you explain what 'problems' are?"). A "problem" might be if the SWIFT code is wrong etc... for whatever that's worth.

PS Wire transfers blow. Why can't I do it from online banking? This is 2007! Back in the 60's they promised us flying cars by now for f-ing sake! I want my flying car!! aarrgg


Am I right in thinking all we have to transfer is the first payment for the rent? Less the deposit etc... I'm away from home a lot with work so am losing track of what needs to be done - help!

<blockquote>I called the rental office in Leiden - the woman said they only take wire transfers. She didn't know how much the fee to receive would be, so I had to call the bank. So, for around 1000euro the fee charged to the rental office (which you have to pay too) is between 10 and 45 euro. She told me 10 euro if everything is OK and up to 45 euro if there is problems with the wire ("ahh...uhh..can you explain what 'problems' are?"). A "problem" might be if the SWIFT code is wrong etc... for whatever that's worth.

PS Wire transfers blow. Why can't I do it from online banking? This is 2007! Back in the 60's they promised us flying cars by now for f-ing sake! I want my flying car!! aarrgg </blockquote>

Am I right in thinking all we have to transfer is the first payment for the rent? Less the deposit etc... I'm away from home a lot with work so am losing track of what needs to be done - help!
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kris1984

If your rental agreement starts 15/16 August, then you have to send 1.5 months rent (to cover half of August and all of September). This, plus 70euro (I think! Better check) admin fee, plus the fee the rental office is charged by their bank to receive your money (so, 10euro ish).

You're in Europe though, so it might work different for you.

If your rental agreement starts 15/16 August, then you have to send 1.5 months rent (to cover half of August and all of September). This, plus 70euro (I think! Better check) admin fee, plus the fee the rental office is charged by their bank to receive your money (so, 10euro ish).

You're in Europe though, so it might work different for you.
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If your rental agreement starts 15/16 August, then you have to send 1.5 months rent (to cover half of August and all of September). This, plus 70euro (I think! Better check) admin fee, plus the fee the rental office is charged by their bank to receive your money (so, 10euro ish).

You're in Europe though, so it might work different for you.


Ahh... thanks for that Kris! We subtract the amount we've given for the deposit don't we?

<blockquote>If your rental agreement starts 15/16 August, then you have to send 1.5 months rent (to cover half of August and all of September). This, plus 70euro (I think! Better check) admin fee, plus the fee the rental office is charged by their bank to receive your money (so, 10euro ish).

You're in Europe though, so it might work different for you.</blockquote>

Ahh... thanks for that Kris! We subtract the amount we've given for the deposit don't we?
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kris1984

Nope. They keep it until you leave, and if you didn't party the apartment into ruin, they'll give it back.

If you got all their emails, a lot of the details are in the one they sent after you accepted the housing offer.

Nope. They keep it until you leave, and if you didn't party the apartment into ruin, they'll give it back.

If you got all their emails, a lot of the details are in the one they sent after you accepted the housing offer.
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That's right... quite a lot of money... oh well.

I emailed them and since my lease starts mid august I have to transfer 1.5 months rent plus the administration fee.

getting very close...

That's right... quite a lot of money... oh well.

I emailed them and since my lease starts mid august I have to transfer 1.5 months rent plus the administration fee.

getting very close...
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kris1984

Email from Accommodate

There are two sorts of payments we prefer. First, you can transfer the money to our account. The details should be in your confirmation letter. If you dont want to do this, you can also pay the money at a Dutch bank upon arrival and ask for a confirmation to show us, so you can sign the contract.

To be complete, here is the paragraph about the payment of rent from the house rules:

Payment of rent

* Monthly payments must take place in advance, before the first day of every month.
* Please pay to account number 64.23.42.059 of Fortis Bank Leiden, mentioning your family name, address and room number.
* Payments via a foreign bankaccount: IBAN code NL57FTSB 0642342059 SWIFT of BIC code FTSBNL2R
* For cash payments please turn to the GWK-Travelex bank (at Leiden central station).
* Payments via a Dutch bankaccount: your bank can automatically transfer the rent to Accommodate each month.
* If rent is not properly paid in time we will be forced to deny you access to your room.

Email from Accommodate

There are two sorts of payments we prefer. First, you can transfer the money to our account. The details should be in your confirmation letter. If you don’t want to do this, you can also pay the money at a Dutch bank upon arrival and ask for a confirmation to show us, so you can sign the contract.

To be complete, here is the paragraph about the payment of rent from the house rules:

Payment of rent

* Monthly payments must take place in advance, before the first day of every month.
* Please pay to account number 64.23.42.059 of Fortis Bank Leiden, mentioning your family name, address and room number.
* Payments via a foreign bankaccount: IBAN code NL57FTSB 0642342059 SWIFT of BIC code FTSBNL2R
* For cash payments please turn to the GWK-Travelex bank (at Leiden central station).
* Payments via a Dutch bankaccount: your bank can automatically transfer the rent to Accommodate each month.
* If rent is not properly paid in time we will be forced to deny you access to your room.
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Humber

I didn´t take the time to read through all the posts, so apologies if this is answered earlier.

Will you guys be taking the Master of Advanced Studies in Public International Law or the LLM in Public international law?

I am in the Hague now and will be visiting Leiden some time soon. I will apply to the advanced studies version next year.

I didn´t take the time to read through all the posts, so apologies if this is answered earlier.

Will you guys be taking the Master of Advanced Studies in Public International Law or the LLM in Public international law?

I am in the Hague now and will be visiting Leiden some time soon. I will apply to the advanced studies version next year.
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tttv^

Most of us are in LLM, not in an upgraded version.

I've just transfered my tuition fee and housing payment. Fingers crossed that it will reach final destination.

Most of us are in LLM, not in an upgraded version.

I've just transfered my tuition fee and housing payment. Fingers crossed that it will reach final destination.
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kris1984

The Advanced programme is aimed toward long standing professionals who wish to refine their skills. Whilst the standard programme is aimed at students, who don't already have considerable experience in international law.

Moreover, the Advanced programme does not qualify for government subsidization, therefore there is no "home fee" for EU students - everyone pays the International tariff.

The Advanced programme is aimed toward long standing professionals who wish to refine their skills. Whilst the standard programme is aimed at students, who don't already have considerable experience in international law.

Moreover, the Advanced programme does not qualify for government subsidization, therefore there is no "home fee" for EU students - everyone pays the International tariff.
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Hello;)

Milda, Lithuania, Vilnius, 23:)

How are ya'll doin? Waiting unpatiently for the new semester?
Actually, I'm a bit in the wrong subject here:) since i was admited to the EU law in Leiden '07, but still:)
So, i see you're discussing housing here, i'm just curious, has anyone recieved the offer yet? I payed the 500 for the service, bet still Leiden remain silent:)
Anyway, hope we'll all meet anyway during the introduction days (i've registered only for those, but not for the whole week, how abt you?)
See ya!

Milda

Hello;)

Milda, Lithuania, Vilnius, 23:)

How are ya'll doin? Waiting unpatiently for the new semester?
Actually, I'm a bit in the wrong subject here:) since i was admited to the EU law in Leiden '07, but still:)
So, i see you're discussing housing here, i'm just curious, has anyone recieved the offer yet? I payed the 500 for the service, bet still Leiden remain silent:)
Anyway, hope we'll all meet anyway during the introduction days (i've registered only for those, but not for the whole week, how abt you?)
See ya!

Milda
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tttv^

Wellcum aboard.

We'll have quiet a lithuanian diaspora in Leiden next school year.

Wellcum aboard.

We'll have quiet a lithuanian diaspora in Leiden next school year.
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:D isn't that good? still, do you know somebody else from Lithuania comming to Leiden? Maybe somebody to EU law? I saw you're in PIL. btw, when do you plan to come?

:D isn't that good? still, do you know somebody else from Lithuania comming to Leiden? Maybe somebody to EU law? I saw you're in PIL. btw, when do you plan to come?
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tttv^

I know at least two more lithuanian people who are going to do PIL in Leiden.

I am leaving for Belgium on the 15th of August, will spend some festival time there, then head for Leiden in a week or so (21-22 August).

I know at least two more lithuanian people who are going to do PIL in Leiden.

I am leaving for Belgium on the 15th of August, will spend some festival time there, then head for Leiden in a week or so (21-22 August).
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hey, good:) we may wanna do some lithuanian national evening:)))
Have good time in Belgium, and i hope to meet you in Leiden. I'm coming on the 27th.
Why PIL not EU law?
Geros dienos:)))

hey, good:) we may wanna do some lithuanian national evening:)))
Have good time in Belgium, and i hope to meet you in Leiden. I'm coming on the 27th.
Why PIL not EU law?
Geros dienos:)))
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tttv^

I'm just not feeling EU law. PIL is way more interesting.

I'm just not feeling EU law. PIL is way more interesting.
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illy

hi again ... just wondering how we EU students pay our tuition fees before we get there - anyone got an email about the account we pay into?

hi again ... just wondering how we EU students pay our tuition fees before we get there - anyone got an email about the account we pay into?
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Hi,
I hope that the info that I have is correct but here is what they have sent to me: "Please note that you are not allowed to transfer your tuition fee to the International Office.
Payment can be done upon arrival after opening a Dutch bank account. If you wish to pay in advance, please transfer your tuition fee to the following bank account:

Bank accountnumber: 604607903
Swiftcode: ABNANL2A,
IBANcode: NL41ABNA0604607903
Universiteit Leiden, Stationsweg 31-33 2312 AT Leiden, NL

Please mention your full name, programme and academic year when transferring the tuition fee.
Please bring a copy (proof OF PAYMENT) to Leiden."

So as far as I understand, we have to pay the tuition fee after arrival.

Hi,
I hope that the info that I have is correct but here is what they have sent to me: "Please note that you are not allowed to transfer your tuition fee to the International Office.
Payment can be done upon arrival after opening a Dutch bank account. If you wish to pay in advance, please transfer your tuition fee to the following bank account:

Bank accountnumber: 604607903
Swiftcode: ABNANL2A,
IBANcode: NL41ABNA0604607903
Universiteit Leiden, Stationsweg 31-33 2312 AT Leiden, NL

Please mention your full name, programme and academic year when transferring the tuition fee.
Please bring a copy (proof OF PAYMENT) to Leiden."

So as far as I understand, we have to pay the tuition fee after arrival.
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