Leiden Public International Law LLM: Advanced or Regular


ArtK

Hey everyone!

I'm currently working on my PIL LLM Applications and I'm trying to decide if it's worth trying to get into the Advanced PIL LLM in Leiden, especially considering the price difference compared to the regular LLM.

Does anyone know what are the exact differences from the regular one?

Also, do you think it will be much harder to qualify for admission to the Advanced LLM?

Pleeease I'd greatly appreciate some insight! Thanks in advance!!

Hey everyone!

I'm currently working on my PIL LLM Applications and I'm trying to decide if it's worth trying to get into the Advanced PIL LLM in Leiden, especially considering the price difference compared to the regular LLM.

Does anyone know what are the exact differences from the regular one?

Also, do you think it will be much harder to qualify for admission to the Advanced LLM?

Pleeease I'd greatly appreciate some insight! Thanks in advance!!
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lawman24

I have looked at this LLM as well. It appears its just more courses in the same study period (1 year) and a higher tuition fee for the advanced. Utrecht, Groningen, and Amsterdam all also have PIL LLMs too so theres quite a few options for this programme in Netherlands.

I have looked at this LLM as well. It appears its just more courses in the same study period (1 year) and a higher tuition fee for the advanced. Utrecht, Groningen, and Amsterdam all also have PIL LLMs too so theres quite a few options for this programme in Netherlands.
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Hi, I heard the advanced course is for the applicants who already had working experience in PIL area or studied PIL. As you can look on website, there are two programs in advanced course. if you are admitted to one of the advanced course, your course would focus on what you chose more deeply than regular course. I heard regular course consists of more general subjects of PIL. I hope this information would be helpful for you. Actually, I applied for both courses in Leiden. Is there anyone who already got the result from Leiden?

Hi, I heard the advanced course is for the applicants who already had working experience in PIL area or studied PIL. As you can look on website, there are two programs in advanced course. if you are admitted to one of the advanced course, your course would focus on what you chose more deeply than regular course. I heard regular course consists of more general subjects of PIL. I hope this information would be helpful for you. Actually, I applied for both courses in Leiden. Is there anyone who already got the result from Leiden?
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Jok92

Hi everyone, I've a question. I'm working on my LLM application but I'm not sure about the possibility to apply for both PIL and Adv. PIL. May you help me? Thanks

Hi everyone, I've a question. I'm working on my LLM application but I'm not sure about the possibility to apply for both PIL and Adv. PIL. May you help me? Thanks
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anettevs

Hello,

You may apply to both programmes at the same time. Please note that for the Advanced PIL some legal work experience is required. The group for PIL is usually bigger (both Dutch and international studentents) than for the Advanced PIL programme (mainly international students) and the Advanced programme is more intensive.
Good luck on your applications.
Kind regards,
Anette

Hello,

You may apply to both programmes at the same time. Please note that for the Advanced PIL some legal work experience is required. The group for PIL is usually bigger (both Dutch and international studentents) than for the Advanced PIL programme (mainly international students) and the Advanced programme is more intensive.
Good luck on your applications.
Kind regards,
Anette
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Jok92

Hello,

You may apply to both programmes at the same time. Please note that for the Advanced PIL some legal work experience is required. The group for PIL is usually bigger (both Dutch and international studentents) than for the Advanced PIL programme (mainly international students) and the Advanced programme is more intensive.
Good luck on your applications.
Kind regards,
Anette


Thank you very much for these information.

I'll try to apply for a position in MPIL.

Best regards.

[quote]Hello,

You may apply to both programmes at the same time. Please note that for the Advanced PIL some legal work experience is required. The group for PIL is usually bigger (both Dutch and international studentents) than for the Advanced PIL programme (mainly international students) and the Advanced programme is more intensive.
Good luck on your applications.
Kind regards,
Anette[/quote]

Thank you very much for these information.

I'll try to apply for a position in MPIL.

Best regards.

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sam1204

Hi guys! I was wondering whether anyone could help me out. I've seriously tried but for the life of me I can't understand how to apply to Leiden. I initially understood that I was supposed to submit an enrolment application through Studielink. However, once that's done they say that Leiden needs to verify my personal details first. And below that in the very same email they say that my personal details will be verified during the admission process. Now what I don't understand is, when will they provide me with the applicant login?
Would be glad if I could get some help on this!!

[Edited by sam1204 on Feb 01, 2018]

Hi guys! I was wondering whether anyone could help me out. I've seriously tried but for the life of me I can't understand how to apply to Leiden. I initially understood that I was supposed to submit an enrolment application through Studielink. However, once that's done they say that Leiden needs to verify my personal details first. And below that in the very same email they say that my personal details will be verified during the admission process. Now what I don't understand is, when will they provide me with the applicant login?
Would be glad if I could get some help on this!!
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AlineK

Hi guys! I was wondering whether anyone could help me out. I've seriously tried but for the life of me I can't understand how to apply to Leiden. I initially understood that I was supposed to submit an enrolment application through Studielink. However, once that's done they say that Leiden needs to verify my personal details first. And below that in the very same email they say that my personal details will be verified during the admission process. Now what I don't understand is, when will they provide me with the applicant login?
Would be glad if I could get some help on this!!


One or two days after you submit your application through Studilink you will receive an e-mail from Leiden University with the next steps you should take. It's a bit confusing at the beginning, but once you receive the e-mail everything gets easier.
Below is the link explaining how it all works in case you haven't yet seen it (it's for the international tax program, but I believe it the same to all LL.M programs)
https://www.universiteitleiden.nl/en/education/study-programmes/master/international-tax-law/admission-and-application/application-procedure

[quote]Hi guys! I was wondering whether anyone could help me out. I've seriously tried but for the life of me I can't understand how to apply to Leiden. I initially understood that I was supposed to submit an enrolment application through Studielink. However, once that's done they say that Leiden needs to verify my personal details first. And below that in the very same email they say that my personal details will be verified during the admission process. Now what I don't understand is, when will they provide me with the applicant login?
Would be glad if I could get some help on this!![/quote]

One or two days after you submit your application through Studilink you will receive an e-mail from Leiden University with the next steps you should take. It's a bit confusing at the beginning, but once you receive the e-mail everything gets easier.
Below is the link explaining how it all works in case you haven't yet seen it (it's for the international tax program, but I believe it the same to all LL.M programs)
https://www.universiteitleiden.nl/en/education/study-programmes/master/international-tax-law/admission-and-application/application-procedure

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Jok92

Hi guys, I have only one last question: how does it work if i apply for both? Is it possible to be admitted to both programs (and i will choose one) or the admission committees will decide in which master they accept my application (if they will accept it)?

Thank you.

Hi guys, I have only one last question: how does it work if i apply for both? Is it possible to be admitted to both programs (and i will choose one) or the admission committees will decide in which master they accept my application (if they will accept it)?

Thank you.
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sam1204

Hi guys! I was wondering whether anyone could help me out. I've seriously tried but for the life of me I can't understand how to apply to Leiden. I initially understood that I was supposed to submit an enrolment application through Studielink. However, once that's done they say that Leiden needs to verify my personal details first. And below that in the very same email they say that my personal details will be verified during the admission process. Now what I don't understand is, when will they provide me with the applicant login?
Would be glad if I could get some help on this!!


One or two days after you submit your application through Studilink you will receive an e-mail from Leiden University with the next steps you should take. It's a bit confusing at the beginning, but once you receive the e-mail everything gets easier.
Below is the link explaining how it all works in case you haven't yet seen it (it's for the international tax program, but I believe it the same to all LL.M programs)
https://www.universiteitleiden.nl/en/education/study-programmes/master/international-tax-law/admission-and-application/application-procedure



Hi! Thank you so much for the clarification! Though I did go through the website, I somehow panicked and thought that I misunderstood the process.

I was also wondering how people are deciding on going for a Regular or Advanced PIL programme. I'm a non-EU candidate so the fee would be the same for me. I do have a genuine interest in the field and have interned with the UN for six months. Would that be enough for me to qualify the basic requirements for the Advanced programme? Also has anyone decided between the International Criminal law specialization and the Peace and Justice specialization? Or do we choose that once we are admitted?

Thanks in advance!

[quote][quote]Hi guys! I was wondering whether anyone could help me out. I've seriously tried but for the life of me I can't understand how to apply to Leiden. I initially understood that I was supposed to submit an enrolment application through Studielink. However, once that's done they say that Leiden needs to verify my personal details first. And below that in the very same email they say that my personal details will be verified during the admission process. Now what I don't understand is, when will they provide me with the applicant login?
Would be glad if I could get some help on this!![/quote]

One or two days after you submit your application through Studilink you will receive an e-mail from Leiden University with the next steps you should take. It's a bit confusing at the beginning, but once you receive the e-mail everything gets easier.
Below is the link explaining how it all works in case you haven't yet seen it (it's for the international tax program, but I believe it the same to all LL.M programs)
https://www.universiteitleiden.nl/en/education/study-programmes/master/international-tax-law/admission-and-application/application-procedure

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Hi! Thank you so much for the clarification! Though I did go through the website, I somehow panicked and thought that I misunderstood the process.

I was also wondering how people are deciding on going for a Regular or Advanced PIL programme. I'm a non-EU candidate so the fee would be the same for me. I do have a genuine interest in the field and have interned with the UN for six months. Would that be enough for me to qualify the basic requirements for the Advanced programme? Also has anyone decided between the International Criminal law specialization and the Peace and Justice specialization? Or do we choose that once we are admitted?

Thanks in advance!
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sam1204

Hi guys! Any advice on the above? I contacted the University and they sent me round in circles.

Hi guys! Any advice on the above? I contacted the University and they sent me round in circles.
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Jok92

Hi to everyone. I've been admitted to the Adv. PIL programme!! I'm really happy but I'm still waiting for other universities!!!

Hi to everyone. I've been admitted to the Adv. PIL programme!! I'm really happy but I'm still waiting for other universities!!!
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saisats505

Hi to everyone. I've been admitted to the Adv. PIL programme!! I'm really happy but I'm still waiting for other universities!!!


Hey! Congratulations on your admission!
Could you please let me know as to when you had applied and whether you had applied for the program with the LEXs scholarship?
(Also, which other universities are you waiting on?)

[quote]Hi to everyone. I've been admitted to the Adv. PIL programme!! I'm really happy but I'm still waiting for other universities!!![/quote]

Hey! Congratulations on your admission!
Could you please let me know as to when you had applied and whether you had applied for the program with the LEXs scholarship?
(Also, which other universities are you waiting on?)
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ArtK

Hey guys! Sooo, after a long application process I have been accepted to UCL and to Leiden (for the Advanced PIL LLM) and now I find myself having a hard time chosing... The cost for both is pretty much the same. And then, on one hand, you have the prestige and quality of UCL with great rankings and on the other, Leiden, with its proximity to the Hague and its specialty in PIL. Anyone having any ideas on that??

Hey guys! Sooo, after a long application process I have been accepted to UCL and to Leiden (for the Advanced PIL LLM) and now I find myself having a hard time chosing... The cost for both is pretty much the same. And then, on one hand, you have the prestige and quality of UCL with great rankings and on the other, Leiden, with its proximity to the Hague and its specialty in PIL. Anyone having any ideas on that??
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sujeyk

Can anyone provide career prospects info upon completion of the advanced Leiden program?

Can anyone provide career prospects info upon completion of the advanced Leiden program?
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Hey guys! Sooo, after a long application process I have been accepted to UCL and to Leiden (for the Advanced PIL LLM) and now I find myself having a hard time chosing... The cost for both is pretty much the same. And then, on one hand, you have the prestige and quality of UCL with great rankings and on the other, Leiden, with its proximity to the Hague and its specialty in PIL. Anyone having any ideas on that??


Which did you choose in the end? I’m thinking of applying to both as well and have the exact same questions as you did!

[quote]Hey guys! Sooo, after a long application process I have been accepted to UCL and to Leiden (for the Advanced PIL LLM) and now I find myself having a hard time chosing... The cost for both is pretty much the same. And then, on one hand, you have the prestige and quality of UCL with great rankings and on the other, Leiden, with its proximity to the Hague and its specialty in PIL. Anyone having any ideas on that?? [/quote]

Which did you choose in the end? I’m thinking of applying to both as well and have the exact same questions as you did!
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Hi all! I wanted to apply for Leiden this year, had the same questions regarding PIL and Adv. PIL. I could only rely on a Scholarship to finance my further studies, so PIL (without any financial aid) was not an option. Therefore, started checking adv PIL, wasn't sure if I'm eligible for this program though. I am a Jessup Participant (3 years in a row),had an internship at a law firm, British Embassy and a research department, but I'm only finishing my Bachelor's degree now. I contacted them, and they said that I need to have a Master's degree already to be eligible for the Advanced PIL, so I didn't apply. So my main question: do you know anyone who was admitted even without a Master degree already, or is it that strict? Thank you beforehand!

Hi all! I wanted to apply for Leiden this year, had the same questions regarding PIL and Adv. PIL. I could only rely on a Scholarship to finance my further studies, so PIL (without any financial aid) was not an option. Therefore, started checking adv PIL, wasn't sure if I'm eligible for this program though. I am a Jessup Participant (3 years in a row),had an internship at a law firm, British Embassy and a research department, but I'm only finishing my Bachelor's degree now. I contacted them, and they said that I need to have a Master's degree already to be eligible for the Advanced PIL, so I didn't apply. So my main question: do you know anyone who was admitted even without a Master degree already, or is it that strict? Thank you beforehand!
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AJ3914

I applied while doing the last semester of my bachelor degree in South America. I was admitted and was also the younger in my program. I had a couple of classmate basically just out of uni. But I think it depends where are you from. If you are from a country where a bachelor is enough to exercise the law profession, then you can apply. If you need a qualifying master like they do in NL, you have to do first something more like the General PIL Program.

All none European in this forum, apply to the Advanced. The only benefit of doing the regular is that you get an education almost as good paying way less but that is only applicable for Europeans. I think that the really prestigious program is the advanced one but I would understand people choosing it because is cheaper. In the advanced you have the soecializations, many more prestigious professors, the ICJ fellowship, the trip, the administration things are better because they have a specific staff coordinating the program, in the regular they are just part of the regular Leiden Law School administration. The alumni events, network, etc.

If you can really choose between both, pick the advanced. You won’t regret it.

I would love to answer some of the many question in other post but I’m dead already. Will try coming back to the forum tomorrow.

Good luck!

Hi all! I wanted to apply for Leiden this year, had the same questions regarding PIL and Adv. PIL. I could only rely on a Scholarship to finance my further studies, so PIL (without any financial aid) was not an option. Therefore, started checking adv PIL, wasn't sure if I'm eligible for this program though. I am a Jessup Participant (3 years in a row),had an internship at a law firm, British Embassy and a research department, but I'm only finishing my Bachelor's degree now. I contacted them, and they said that I need to have a Master's degree already to be eligible for the Advanced PIL, so I didn't apply. So my main question: do you know anyone who was admitted even without a Master degree already, or is it that strict? Thank you beforehand!

I applied while doing the last semester of my bachelor degree in South America. I was admitted and was also the younger in my program. I had a couple of classmate basically just out of uni. But I think it depends where are you from. If you are from a country where a bachelor is enough to exercise the law profession, then you can apply. If you need a qualifying master like they do in NL, you have to do first something more like the General PIL Program.

All none European in this forum, apply to the Advanced. The only benefit of doing the regular is that you get an education almost as good paying way less but that is only applicable for Europeans. I think that the really prestigious program is the advanced one but I would understand people choosing it because is cheaper. In the advanced you have the soecializations, many more prestigious professors, the ICJ fellowship, the trip, the administration things are better because they have a specific staff coordinating the program, in the regular they are just part of the regular Leiden Law School administration. The alumni events, network, etc.

If you can really choose between both, pick the advanced. You won’t regret it.

I would love to answer some of the many question in other post but I’m dead already. Will try coming back to the forum tomorrow.

Good luck!
[quote]Hi all! I wanted to apply for Leiden this year, had the same questions regarding PIL and Adv. PIL. I could only rely on a Scholarship to finance my further studies, so PIL (without any financial aid) was not an option. Therefore, started checking adv PIL, wasn't sure if I'm eligible for this program though. I am a Jessup Participant (3 years in a row),had an internship at a law firm, British Embassy and a research department, but I'm only finishing my Bachelor's degree now. I contacted them, and they said that I need to have a Master's degree already to be eligible for the Advanced PIL, so I didn't apply. So my main question: do you know anyone who was admitted even without a Master degree already, or is it that strict? Thank you beforehand![/quote]
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I applied while doing the last semester of my bachelor degree in South America. I was admitted and was also the younger in my program. I had a couple of classmate basically just out of uni. But I think it depends where are you from. If you are from a country where a bachelor is enough to exercise the law profession, then you can apply. If you need a qualifying master like they do in NL, you have to do first something more like the General PIL Program.

All none European in this forum, apply to the Advanced. The only benefit of doing the regular is that you get an education almost as good paying way less but that is only applicable for Europeans. I think that the really prestigious program is the advanced one but I would understand people choosing it because is cheaper. In the advanced you have the soecializations, many more prestigious professors, the ICJ fellowship, the trip, the administration things are better because they have a specific staff coordinating the program, in the regular they are just part of the regular Leiden Law School administration. The alumni events, network, etc.

If you can really choose between both, pick the advanced. You won’t regret it.

I would love to answer some of the many question in other post but I’m dead already. Will try coming back to the forum tomorrow.

Good luck!
Hi all! I wanted to apply for Leiden this year, had the same questions regarding PIL and Adv. PIL. I could only rely on a Scholarship to finance my further studies, so PIL (without any financial aid) was not an option. Therefore, started checking adv PIL, wasn't sure if I'm eligible for this program though. I am a Jessup Participant (3 years in a row),had an internship at a law firm, British Embassy and a research department, but I'm only finishing my Bachelor's degree now. I contacted them, and they said that I need to have a Master's degree already to be eligible for the Advanced PIL, so I didn't apply. So my main question: do you know anyone who was admitted even without a Master degree already, or is it that strict? Thank you beforehand!

[quote]I applied while doing the last semester of my bachelor degree in South America. I was admitted and was also the younger in my program. I had a couple of classmate basically just out of uni. But I think it depends where are you from. If you are from a country where a bachelor is enough to exercise the law profession, then you can apply. If you need a qualifying master like they do in NL, you have to do first something more like the General PIL Program.

All none European in this forum, apply to the Advanced. The only benefit of doing the regular is that you get an education almost as good paying way less but that is only applicable for Europeans. I think that the really prestigious program is the advanced one but I would understand people choosing it because is cheaper. In the advanced you have the soecializations, many more prestigious professors, the ICJ fellowship, the trip, the administration things are better because they have a specific staff coordinating the program, in the regular they are just part of the regular Leiden Law School administration. The alumni events, network, etc.

If you can really choose between both, pick the advanced. You won’t regret it.

I would love to answer some of the many question in other post but I’m dead already. Will try coming back to the forum tomorrow.

Good luck!
[quote]Hi all! I wanted to apply for Leiden this year, had the same questions regarding PIL and Adv. PIL. I could only rely on a Scholarship to finance my further studies, so PIL (without any financial aid) was not an option. Therefore, started checking adv PIL, wasn't sure if I'm eligible for this program though. I am a Jessup Participant (3 years in a row),had an internship at a law firm, British Embassy and a research department, but I'm only finishing my Bachelor's degree now. I contacted them, and they said that I need to have a Master's degree already to be eligible for the Advanced PIL, so I didn't apply. So my main question: do you know anyone who was admitted even without a Master degree already, or is it that strict? Thank you beforehand![/quote] [/quote]
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Hi! I wanted to know if the advanced LLM was harder to get into (gpa/ experience/ publications) than the regular ? I can’t see any Gpa requirement in their website and I’m confused. Thank you!

Hi! I wanted to know if the advanced LLM was harder to get into (gpa/ experience/ publications) than the regular ? I can’t see any Gpa requirement in their website and I’m confused. Thank you!<br>
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