Hello everyone,

Former french College of Europe student said me that the interview is about three important things:
- your motivation : why do you want to study at the COE ?
- you project research : but I don't know if every country have to do one for their selection
- and your European knowledge.

Then, you can work on all of that in french and in english !

Hi to everyone, and welcome findol!!!
Well, respecting if I've applied to another school, yes I did, but it is still in Belgium, so I think the study method of this school doesn't changes so much from the CoE method of study.

I don't know if I have any chance of get it, I hope so, but the last year in Spain there were just 20 schoolarships for the whole country, so ...it is still difficult, but we have to try, otherwise we will never know.

I don't want to wait until to know if I am pre-selected, then I will have just 2 weeks to prepare my self, and I think it is not enough. But I think that start to study already is pretty much. By now, I am just reading the newspapers and some political essays, not more. And, I think, one monthe before start to hard study, over the begining of march.

I've applied to the LLM and for the EIS in Natolin campus as my second choice. I am studying law in Spain, but I really love to go to Natolin too...this program seems interesting.

And Findol, do you have any idea about the selection process in Spain? do you know anyone who was applying before us?
Do you guys know how is the recruitment requisits for the selection commite? And do you know how many people can get it without the help grant??

Thank you for your help, sorry for these much questions, and I wish you all the luck!!!!

PD: 2 months to receive the decissions...

Hi to everyone, and welcome findol!!!
Well, respecting if I've applied to another school, yes I did, but it is still in Belgium, so I think the study method of this school doesn't changes so much from the CoE method of study.

I don't know if I have any chance of get it, I hope so, but the last year in Spain there were just 20 schoolarships for the whole country, so ...it is still difficult, but we have to try, otherwise we will never know.

I don't want to wait until to know if I am pre-selected, then I will have just 2 weeks to prepare my self, and I think it is not enough. But I think that start to study already is pretty much. By now, I am just reading the newspapers and some political essays, not more. And, I think, one monthe before start to hard study, over the begining of march.

I've applied to the LLM and for the EIS in Natolin campus as my second choice. I am studying law in Spain, but I really love to go to Natolin too...this program seems interesting.

And Findol, do you have any idea about the selection process in Spain? do you know anyone who was applying before us?
Do you guys know how is the recruitment requisits for the selection commite? And do you know how many people can get it without the help grant??

Thank you for your help, sorry for these much questions, and I wish you all the luck!!!!

PD: 2 months to receive the decissions...

Well regarding the interview - i'm waiting to hear back first. Maybe because i dont think i have much chances to get it, so i dont want to waste my time on it if i dont get the interview, but also i think id rather do an intensive week end of revisions than dragg this over months! I dont think they will ask any specific eu law questions, except maybe on your research project, i think it's more your motivation and current affairs...

Thanks all for the welcome.

I have some options for Plan B in mind, there are interesting things in London and Leiden (in fact in severarl places in the Netherlands).

The change of the teaching method will be strong for me, because here it has been more or less the same from Middle Age so the concept of working in papers and before classes is quite strange for me.

MZ: I'm in the middle of my exam period, and I'll finish the second week of february. For preparing the interview, first of all I'll attend french classes for remembering all I used to know, in order to be able to speak in the interview. Moreover I'm thinking on reading about EU, mainly for remembering (again) and being up to date in basic topics. Of course if I'm pre-selected, those two weeks will be quite hard, but until that I don't want to spend more time than necessary on it.

EFECTRA: not personally, but one of my professor told me that a former pupil applied last year and now is there. However, she had done an internship in the Ministery of Foreing Affairs, and already had a master about the EU (in the University Carlos III, I think), so it is not at all my case.

About the scholarships, regarding the number of students in the College and the number of scholarships, I think that it is very difficult to get in without obtaining the grant.

Finally, in Spain at least for the LLM we don´t need a research project, because it is a taught programme and in our case there are no specific requirements (as for example in France)

Just to say though that the deadline MZ kindly gave us only applies for the French committee, other countries could be waaaay different!

Yeah I'm freaking out because all those I've known or heard of who got in already had a M2 and some experience buuuut as it was said you don't know until you try!

As for the French Findol obviously it's good to get into the swings of things again (maybe watch the news online or something too?) but the college's requirements are quite low in this regard so I wouldn't worry too much.I mean 6.5 IELTS in English is low enough, and it's about the same in French! Plus, you can say you will do a French course before your entrance.

Hey, I am jus bothered about the people who is going to apply to, because of that depends all the rest.
I hope to have the chance even if I can go just to the interview.

I don't have a Master neigther, but I think that if you have a licence is the same that to have M1 in the international world.
So, we in Spain have already a master1 if we get the licence in law.

What are you studying, findol?

Mmmm I really don't know how Spain works, but a license is 3 years! then M1, M2. It's the Bologna / LMD system.

But if you've done 4 years of study, the fact that it's called a licence doesn't change I guess, it may just be a question of terminology!

Aaaah I wish we knew the results already : )

Well, I have already done 5 years of bachelor, what it means is that we in Spain have 5 years (that is a licence) and after that we do a master if we want.

But in the rest of the world (spain is different :D ) you do 3 years of 4 (thats a bachelor) and after that you do a master1 and master 2...

That's because I was confused...

but thank you antigone

and good luck for you all

ah right! a bachelor is 3 years! So what you did is conisdered a masters!

Meeeh, different terms everywhere... and smart people everywhere ;)

Just to say though that the deadline MZ kindly gave us only applies for the French committee, other countries could be waaaay different!

Yeah I'm freaking out because all those I've known or heard of who got in already had a M2 and some experience buuuut as it was said you don't know until you try!

As for the French Findol obviously it's good to get into the swings of things again (maybe watch the news online or something too?) but the college's requirements are quite low in this regard so I wouldn't worry too much.I mean 6.5 IELTS in English is low enough, and it's about the same in French! Plus, you can say you will do a French course before your entrance.

Hi everyone!

I didn't realise this thread existed! :)

I'm also French, studying in the UK now. I applied for the Law programme with the politics as second choice: they weren't very clear on the website(s) if they accept students into the LLM who haven't studied law in their previous degree(s), which I haven't, but I after talking to them they said I should still apply for it and explain why I'm interested!

What I'm a bit worried about is the previous study level: i was warned that especially from France, most people have finished M1 or even M2! I'm just finishing my Bachelor's here in the UK, and even though it takes longer (4 years), it's still only 180 ECTS points (they don't give credits for our year abroad!). That might seem a bit too basic to the French?

The UK Scholarship is stopped for 2011-2012 (so annoying: the applicant/accepted ratio was something like 3:1), so I had to apply through the French committee. I think/hope my application will be OK cause I really sent it last minute! I received the 'Accuse reception' from Egide so I guess that's good...

Thanks for giving the info about the interview announcement and dates. For us coming from abroad, two weeks to arrange the interview is a bit short: the Eurostar will cost a fortune. But I guess if I do have to take the tickets, I won't be in the mind to complain :)

I don't know what the acceptance ratios are in most countries, but in france it's about 5:1, and as someone mentioned I'm sure that it varies quite a lot depending on the country.

Where else are lawyers applying? I'm also trying the EUI, you never know! if I end up with having to choose between the two I'll feel right silly, but once again that's a more a dream scenario than anything :). Also have a list of like 5 or 6 programmes in the Netherlands that I'd like to apply for, but the bugger is that you have to pay 60-100eur per application! :-/

Hey tailindil! Welcome to the thread!! Finally another French lawyer : P
Too bad for the English committee, that said if you're French surely you have to apply through France anyway?
Yes I did hear that most Frenchies that got in already had an M2, but sure we'll see, you don't know unless you try!
What is your major if you didn't study law, I'm curious?

As for the acceptance rate yes that seems about right giving the numbers on Egide website, but I'd say all applications are pretty strong. I'm not applying anywhere else outside from France,mostly because I can't be bothered asking for 10 different references (looking back maybe I should have asked for a "general" one from each of my referee).
If I don't get into the college I'll most likely do an M2 here or a business school which would be something totally different!

Well if I'd wanted I could have applied through the UK committee (until last year) since I have been studying in the UK - They only gave a scholarship for the fees, but the admission rates were higher.

I'm studying European studies already, specialising in political philosophy.

I imagine all applications are strong - I certainly don't want to expect too much in case I get flat out rejected...

Concerning references: mine were not bothered by printing the same reference letter just changing the specific details in the letter (University & programme name for ex)... As long as the degrees are close to one another, I guess it can be the same letter...

Ah right, I thought it depended on the nationality rather than your country of studies.

Yeah the courses are more or less the same I guess, though I didn't know when I asked them all the courses I could/ would be applying for...

European studies ah! I guess switching to law makes sense, though who want to become a lawyer, tut tut ;)

I should get back to studying for my exams meeh!

hey guys don't be worried about if the people who have already a M2 take advantage in ithe selection procedure, If you take a look to the last posts you will can realize that most of the people that were applying in the last years didn't have a M2, just a M1 or even a Bachelor. And I think (it is my modest oppinion) that they don't want at the college people who already know everything about UE or about UE knowledge, I think they want to take people to teach them from the begining and into their way of thinking to form part of the college community. Soooo, don't worry and everybody back to the study...I am pretty sure you all will get it, (I hope me too) and we will not, we will allways have another university... :D

Good luck to you all

Yes, I totally agree.
The most important thing is : Why do you want to do the COE ? I mean: to what extent the COE can help you to implement your project.
For instance, if you already have a M2 in EU and your project is to work in Brussels as a lobby... the COE could be useless !
Then, if you've got the minimum and a strong motivated project, it could enough !!

Yes Efetra that's totally my line of thoughts too.

That being said most of the French have M2, but over here it's quite common to do one, or two M2... it's silly! Whereas in the UK for ex. not that many people even go on to doing masters.

L2 - that being said a good few people get into lobbying after the COE!

Hello everyone,

Is anyone have any news from the COE ?

hey hey!

No, I haven´t received anything yet from COE.

Hopefully we will hear some news this month.

I am starting to worry a little bit!!!!

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