I'm a student in my first year of law in the RAJIV Gandhi National university of Law(India). I'd like to get an LLM from the holy trinity of law schools like Harvard or Yale .What are the requirements?
Want to go to harvard law school for an LLM
Posted Feb 21, 2009 08:59
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I'm a student in my first year of law in the RAJIV Gandhi National university of Law(India). I'd like to get an LLM from the holy trinity of law schools like Harvard or Yale .What are the requirements?
Posted Feb 21, 2009 11:25
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refer
http://www.llm-guide.com/board/55924
and do read posts at LLM guide.. may be you will get an idea..
refer
http://www.llm-guide.com/board/55924
and do read posts at LLM guide.. may be you will get an idea..
http://www.llm-guide.com/board/55924
and do read posts at LLM guide.. may be you will get an idea..
Posted Feb 21, 2009 22:41
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And pray for luck too...
And pray for luck too...
Posted Feb 21, 2009 22:56
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:)))
:)))
Posted Feb 22, 2009 13:01
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Join the club...
Join the club...
Posted Feb 22, 2009 16:23
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i m in mah 4th year law from india even i m lukin forward for llm frm harvard..want 2 knw wat is d percentage requirement..n at wat percentage can v expect a scholarship.
i m in mah 4th year law from india even i m lukin forward for llm frm harvard..want 2 knw wat is d percentage requirement..n at wat percentage can v expect a scholarship.
Posted Feb 22, 2009 16:32
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First year of higher studies and already looking for Harvard or Yale. Makes me laugh :)
First year of higher studies and already looking for Harvard or Yale. Makes me laugh :)
Posted Feb 22, 2009 16:38
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dude i will be completin law in 2010..datz why i was keen 2 knw abt that..if u r capable enuf 2 answer mah que den kindly do..laughin wen nt neccesary is unethical..
dude i will be completin law in 2010..datz why i was keen 2 knw abt that..if u r capable enuf 2 answer mah que den kindly do..laughin wen nt neccesary is unethical..
Posted Feb 22, 2009 17:03
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I was referring to the thread starter man.
I was referring to the thread starter man.
Posted Feb 22, 2009 17:18
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Please, stop writing as a 12 years old...
Please, stop writing as a 12 years old...
Posted Feb 22, 2009 17:26
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so u shud hv mentioned atleast..
so u shud hv mentioned atleast..
Posted Feb 22, 2009 17:27
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oops ya mah mistake..admitted
oops ya mah mistake..admitted
Posted Feb 22, 2009 19:08
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dude i will be completin law in 2010..datz why i was keen 2 knw abt that..if u r capable enuf 2 answer mah que den kindly do..laughin wen nt neccesary is unethical..
I hope you understand that your writing skill don't reflect maturity and if you think it's kind of cool, then you are highly mistaken.
Have you ever heard that first impression is the last impression.
When you come to forums such as these we expect a bit of seriousness in one's attitude and sorry to say that writing gibrish does not reflect any seriousness on your part.
As lawyers, the importance of writing clearly cannot be emphasized any more than this.
People are more than happy to help here but don't expect to be spoon fed.
If you wish to target Harvard Law school, then primarily look at its website which will give a lot of information about the kind of students it accepts.
You need to be in top 5 % of your class, percentage as a criterion is not extremely relevant as it is difficult to gauge one's capability merely on the basis of percentage due to the fact that grading systems differ from one to another.
You need to distinguish yourself from your peers and from other applicants.
Most of the top schools appreciate that you have a very clear objective of undertaking further studies. Why do you really want to come to Harvard?
Is it just because your school is getting over and many students in your class are talking about doing an LLM.
Is it so that your Intellectual thirst needs more food for thought.
What do you really aim to attain by it?
Most of us have been students and from my personal experience I can tell you that I would just look around and talk to my peers and then whimsically decide that once Law school gets over I would like to go for an LLM though I did not opt for it right after school.
A law student is only equipped with the fundamentals of legal education during the entire period of schooling, he/she may think that they know a lot but when they start to practice, they realize that what they learned at law school was nothing compared to its actual practice. The practice of law is the biggest teacher and not the other way round.
Usually there are two objective for doing an LLM, one is to specialize in a given field of law and the other is undertake teaching as a profession.
Which is yours?
If you aim to specialize, you need to practice first and figure out what is your core area of legal expertise and then work on choosing an LLM that strengthens your experience with a more widespread exposure.
If you aim to teach, surely go ahead and apply to a good Law school right after you graduate.
Whatever are your reasons, you need to distinguish yourself and convince a school that you are going to be a valuable addition to their program and will contribute to school's academia.
<blockquote>dude i will be completin law in 2010..datz why i was keen 2 knw abt that..if u r capable enuf 2 answer mah que den kindly do..laughin wen nt neccesary is unethical..</blockquote>
I hope you understand that your writing skill don't reflect maturity and if you think it's kind of cool, then you are highly mistaken.
Have you ever heard that first impression is the last impression.
When you come to forums such as these we expect a bit of seriousness in one's attitude and sorry to say that writing gibrish does not reflect any seriousness on your part.
As lawyers, the importance of writing clearly cannot be emphasized any more than this.
People are more than happy to help here but don't expect to be spoon fed.
If you wish to target Harvard Law school, then primarily look at its website which will give a lot of information about the kind of students it accepts.
You need to be in top 5 % of your class, percentage as a criterion is not extremely relevant as it is difficult to gauge one's capability merely on the basis of percentage due to the fact that grading systems differ from one to another.
You need to distinguish yourself from your peers and from other applicants.
Most of the top schools appreciate that you have a very clear objective of undertaking further studies. Why do you really want to come to Harvard?
Is it just because your school is getting over and many students in your class are talking about doing an LLM.
Is it so that your Intellectual thirst needs more food for thought.
What do you really aim to attain by it?
Most of us have been students and from my personal experience I can tell you that I would just look around and talk to my peers and then whimsically decide that once Law school gets over I would like to go for an LLM though I did not opt for it right after school.
A law student is only equipped with the fundamentals of legal education during the entire period of schooling, he/she may think that they know a lot but when they start to practice, they realize that what they learned at law school was nothing compared to its actual practice. The practice of law is the biggest teacher and not the other way round.
Usually there are two objective for doing an LLM, one is to specialize in a given field of law and the other is undertake teaching as a profession.
Which is yours?
If you aim to specialize, you need to practice first and figure out what is your core area of legal expertise and then work on choosing an LLM that strengthens your experience with a more widespread exposure.
If you aim to teach, surely go ahead and apply to a good Law school right after you graduate.
Whatever are your reasons, you need to distinguish yourself and convince a school that you are going to be a valuable addition to their program and will contribute to school's academia.
I hope you understand that your writing skill don't reflect maturity and if you think it's kind of cool, then you are highly mistaken.
Have you ever heard that first impression is the last impression.
When you come to forums such as these we expect a bit of seriousness in one's attitude and sorry to say that writing gibrish does not reflect any seriousness on your part.
As lawyers, the importance of writing clearly cannot be emphasized any more than this.
People are more than happy to help here but don't expect to be spoon fed.
If you wish to target Harvard Law school, then primarily look at its website which will give a lot of information about the kind of students it accepts.
You need to be in top 5 % of your class, percentage as a criterion is not extremely relevant as it is difficult to gauge one's capability merely on the basis of percentage due to the fact that grading systems differ from one to another.
You need to distinguish yourself from your peers and from other applicants.
Most of the top schools appreciate that you have a very clear objective of undertaking further studies. Why do you really want to come to Harvard?
Is it just because your school is getting over and many students in your class are talking about doing an LLM.
Is it so that your Intellectual thirst needs more food for thought.
What do you really aim to attain by it?
Most of us have been students and from my personal experience I can tell you that I would just look around and talk to my peers and then whimsically decide that once Law school gets over I would like to go for an LLM though I did not opt for it right after school.
A law student is only equipped with the fundamentals of legal education during the entire period of schooling, he/she may think that they know a lot but when they start to practice, they realize that what they learned at law school was nothing compared to its actual practice. The practice of law is the biggest teacher and not the other way round.
Usually there are two objective for doing an LLM, one is to specialize in a given field of law and the other is undertake teaching as a profession.
Which is yours?
If you aim to specialize, you need to practice first and figure out what is your core area of legal expertise and then work on choosing an LLM that strengthens your experience with a more widespread exposure.
If you aim to teach, surely go ahead and apply to a good Law school right after you graduate.
Whatever are your reasons, you need to distinguish yourself and convince a school that you are going to be a valuable addition to their program and will contribute to school's academia.
Posted Feb 23, 2009 00:54
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Hello Friends,
To all the distinguished and respected members of this discussion board I would like to present my question.Perhaps the question I want to ask may not be in context with the title,however I will take my chance.
My basic education and work experience have been such:
Completed my bachelor's degree in Computer Science and Engineering from India. I worked in companies like Dell and HP. Although my experience wasnt at the top tier I worked as a team leader in IT Support operations.Since my 5 years of employment currently I am pursuing my Masters in Law LLM in International Information Technology Law from Robert Gordon University Scotland.My initial reason to pick up the LLM program was with the belief that I can be a qualified lawyer without having an under graduate degree in Law. Now I think I have hit few tough ends along the way. So my question to you all is
To be a qualified corporate IT lawyer what are the steps that come along the way.(Inclusive of different jurisdictions Australia,United States,Germany,Belgium)?
Also I have a imposing constraint of age as well i.e I am 28.
Thanks again in anticipation
Hello Friends,
To all the distinguished and respected members of this discussion board I would like to present my question.Perhaps the question I want to ask may not be in context with the title,however I will take my chance.
My basic education and work experience have been such:
Completed my bachelor's degree in Computer Science and Engineering from India. I worked in companies like Dell and HP. Although my experience wasnt at the top tier I worked as a team leader in IT Support operations.Since my 5 years of employment currently I am pursuing my Masters in Law LLM in International Information Technology Law from Robert Gordon University Scotland.My initial reason to pick up the LLM program was with the belief that I can be a qualified lawyer without having an under graduate degree in Law. Now I think I have hit few tough ends along the way. So my question to you all is
To be a qualified corporate IT lawyer what are the steps that come along the way.(Inclusive of different jurisdictions Australia,United States,Germany,Belgium)?
Also I have a imposing constraint of age as well i.e I am 28.
Thanks again in anticipation
To all the distinguished and respected members of this discussion board I would like to present my question.Perhaps the question I want to ask may not be in context with the title,however I will take my chance.
My basic education and work experience have been such:
Completed my bachelor's degree in Computer Science and Engineering from India. I worked in companies like Dell and HP. Although my experience wasnt at the top tier I worked as a team leader in IT Support operations.Since my 5 years of employment currently I am pursuing my Masters in Law LLM in International Information Technology Law from Robert Gordon University Scotland.My initial reason to pick up the LLM program was with the belief that I can be a qualified lawyer without having an under graduate degree in Law. Now I think I have hit few tough ends along the way. So my question to you all is
To be a qualified corporate IT lawyer what are the steps that come along the way.(Inclusive of different jurisdictions Australia,United States,Germany,Belgium)?
Also I have a imposing constraint of age as well i.e I am 28.
Thanks again in anticipation
Posted Feb 23, 2009 05:58
0
Hello Friends,
To all the distinguished and respected members of this discussion board I would like to present my question.Perhaps the question I want to ask may not be in context with the title,however I will take my chance.
My basic education and work experience have been such:
Completed my bachelor's degree in Computer Science and Engineering from India. I worked in companies like Dell and HP. Although my experience wasnt at the top tier I worked as a team leader in IT Support operations.Since my 5 years of employment currently I am pursuing my Masters in Law LLM in International Information Technology Law from Robert Gordon University Scotland.My initial reason to pick up the LLM program was with the belief that I can be a qualified lawyer without having an under graduate degree in Law. Now I think I have hit few tough ends along the way. So my question to you all is
To be a qualified corporate IT lawyer what are the steps that come along the way.(Inclusive of different jurisdictions Australia,United States,Germany,Belgium)?
Also I have a imposing constraint of age as well i.e I am 28.
Thanks again in anticipation
@Jay
Age is not a constraint in most countries except India( in certain universities).
The important question is where do you want to practice?
To practice law one must definitely possess a bachelor's degree.
Another thing is that practice of law is relatively territorial in nature, so you should pick a jurisdiction where you would like to gain your experience in the practice of law which is extreme importance after becoming a lawyer. I hope you understand that merely with an IT background you will not accomplish being an IT lawyer.
In India, at least, you certainly need to invest your time in courts, learn more about prosecution, leading evidence etc. to deserve being called a corporate IT lawyer.
I hope this information helps.
<blockquote>Hello Friends,
To all the distinguished and respected members of this discussion board I would like to present my question.Perhaps the question I want to ask may not be in context with the title,however I will take my chance.
My basic education and work experience have been such:
Completed my bachelor's degree in Computer Science and Engineering from India. I worked in companies like Dell and HP. Although my experience wasnt at the top tier I worked as a team leader in IT Support operations.Since my 5 years of employment currently I am pursuing my Masters in Law LLM in International Information Technology Law from Robert Gordon University Scotland.My initial reason to pick up the LLM program was with the belief that I can be a qualified lawyer without having an under graduate degree in Law. Now I think I have hit few tough ends along the way. So my question to you all is
To be a qualified corporate IT lawyer what are the steps that come along the way.(Inclusive of different jurisdictions Australia,United States,Germany,Belgium)?
Also I have a imposing constraint of age as well i.e I am 28.
Thanks again in anticipation</blockquote>
@Jay
Age is not a constraint in most countries except India( in certain universities).
The important question is where do you want to practice?
To practice law one must definitely possess a bachelor's degree.
Another thing is that practice of law is relatively territorial in nature, so you should pick a jurisdiction where you would like to gain your experience in the practice of law which is extreme importance after becoming a lawyer. I hope you understand that merely with an IT background you will not accomplish being an IT lawyer.
In India, at least, you certainly need to invest your time in courts, learn more about prosecution, leading evidence etc. to deserve being called a corporate IT lawyer.
I hope this information helps.
To all the distinguished and respected members of this discussion board I would like to present my question.Perhaps the question I want to ask may not be in context with the title,however I will take my chance.
My basic education and work experience have been such:
Completed my bachelor's degree in Computer Science and Engineering from India. I worked in companies like Dell and HP. Although my experience wasnt at the top tier I worked as a team leader in IT Support operations.Since my 5 years of employment currently I am pursuing my Masters in Law LLM in International Information Technology Law from Robert Gordon University Scotland.My initial reason to pick up the LLM program was with the belief that I can be a qualified lawyer without having an under graduate degree in Law. Now I think I have hit few tough ends along the way. So my question to you all is
To be a qualified corporate IT lawyer what are the steps that come along the way.(Inclusive of different jurisdictions Australia,United States,Germany,Belgium)?
Also I have a imposing constraint of age as well i.e I am 28.
Thanks again in anticipation</blockquote>
@Jay
Age is not a constraint in most countries except India( in certain universities).
The important question is where do you want to practice?
To practice law one must definitely possess a bachelor's degree.
Another thing is that practice of law is relatively territorial in nature, so you should pick a jurisdiction where you would like to gain your experience in the practice of law which is extreme importance after becoming a lawyer. I hope you understand that merely with an IT background you will not accomplish being an IT lawyer.
In India, at least, you certainly need to invest your time in courts, learn more about prosecution, leading evidence etc. to deserve being called a corporate IT lawyer.
I hope this information helps.
Posted Feb 23, 2009 07:13
0
Hi myadav09,
Thanks for the eye opening post.Jurisdiction is something which I will base on as ad-hoc.Since I am more interested in the capacity of being a lawyer so I am open to be flexible about the different jurisdictions.As you made a reference about bachelor's degree should I then come to an understanding that with my non law background my scope and opportunities are limited or non conceivable per se?
Hi myadav09,
Thanks for the eye opening post.Jurisdiction is something which I will base on as ad-hoc.Since I am more interested in the capacity of being a lawyer so I am open to be flexible about the different jurisdictions.As you made a reference about bachelor's degree should I then come to an understanding that with my non law background my scope and opportunities are limited or non conceivable per se?
Thanks for the eye opening post.Jurisdiction is something which I will base on as ad-hoc.Since I am more interested in the capacity of being a lawyer so I am open to be flexible about the different jurisdictions.As you made a reference about bachelor's degree should I then come to an understanding that with my non law background my scope and opportunities are limited or non conceivable per se?
Posted Feb 23, 2009 08:49
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Thanks for the eye opening post.Jurisdiction is something which I will base on as ad-hoc.Since I am more interested in the capacity of being a lawyer so I am open to be flexible about the different jurisdictions.As you made a reference about bachelor's degree should I then come to an understanding that with my non law background my scope and opportunities are limited or non conceivable per se?
@Jay
you seem to have misunderstood the connotation of jurisdiction here. When you are looking at a bachelor's degree in law, you would need to work on specific laws in a given country wherever you wish to practice. Therefore after graduating you would be a licensed attorney in a specific jurisdiction and not all over the globe. So you cannot practice on an ad-hoc basis anywhere you wish as not only you need to be licensed to practice in a given jurisdiction but there is also a considerable difference in legal positions regarding legal aspects surrounding an area of law.
With a non law background, your opportunities are limited as far as legal profession is concerned, maybe with your current skill base, if you so desire you may work as a consultant/paralegal with a law firm that might use your expert knowledge to assist in IT law related matters, but from my personal experience, I have seen that IT lawyers need not have any special expertise in coding, learning .net, ajex, programming language etc but they certainly need lawyering skills such as critical thinking, prosecution, leading evidence, cross-examination etc with functional knowledge of IT.
Undoubtedly your 5 years work ex as an IT professional may help you in some way or the other but to become a lawyer, you would need to begin from scratch and gain relevant exposure to legal practice and pick up the desired skill base and acumen of a lawyer.
<blockquote>
Thanks for the eye opening post.Jurisdiction is something which I will base on as ad-hoc.Since I am more interested in the capacity of being a lawyer so I am open to be flexible about the different jurisdictions.As you made a reference about bachelor's degree should I then come to an understanding that with my non law background my scope and opportunities are limited or non conceivable per se?</blockquote>
@Jay
you seem to have misunderstood the connotation of jurisdiction here. When you are looking at a bachelor's degree in law, you would need to work on specific laws in a given country wherever you wish to practice. Therefore after graduating you would be a licensed attorney in a specific jurisdiction and not all over the globe. So you cannot practice on an ad-hoc basis anywhere you wish as not only you need to be licensed to practice in a given jurisdiction but there is also a considerable difference in legal positions regarding legal aspects surrounding an area of law.
With a non law background, your opportunities are limited as far as legal profession is concerned, maybe with your current skill base, if you so desire you may work as a consultant/paralegal with a law firm that might use your expert knowledge to assist in IT law related matters, but from my personal experience, I have seen that IT lawyers need not have any special expertise in coding, learning .net, ajex, programming language etc but they certainly need lawyering skills such as critical thinking, prosecution, leading evidence, cross-examination etc with functional knowledge of IT.
Undoubtedly your 5 years work ex as an IT professional may help you in some way or the other but to become a lawyer, you would need to begin from scratch and gain relevant exposure to legal practice and pick up the desired skill base and acumen of a lawyer.
Thanks for the eye opening post.Jurisdiction is something which I will base on as ad-hoc.Since I am more interested in the capacity of being a lawyer so I am open to be flexible about the different jurisdictions.As you made a reference about bachelor's degree should I then come to an understanding that with my non law background my scope and opportunities are limited or non conceivable per se?</blockquote>
@Jay
you seem to have misunderstood the connotation of jurisdiction here. When you are looking at a bachelor's degree in law, you would need to work on specific laws in a given country wherever you wish to practice. Therefore after graduating you would be a licensed attorney in a specific jurisdiction and not all over the globe. So you cannot practice on an ad-hoc basis anywhere you wish as not only you need to be licensed to practice in a given jurisdiction but there is also a considerable difference in legal positions regarding legal aspects surrounding an area of law.
With a non law background, your opportunities are limited as far as legal profession is concerned, maybe with your current skill base, if you so desire you may work as a consultant/paralegal with a law firm that might use your expert knowledge to assist in IT law related matters, but from my personal experience, I have seen that IT lawyers need not have any special expertise in coding, learning .net, ajex, programming language etc but they certainly need lawyering skills such as critical thinking, prosecution, leading evidence, cross-examination etc with functional knowledge of IT.
Undoubtedly your 5 years work ex as an IT professional may help you in some way or the other but to become a lawyer, you would need to begin from scratch and gain relevant exposure to legal practice and pick up the desired skill base and acumen of a lawyer.
Posted Feb 25, 2009 10:38
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Dear myadav 2009 i really impressed by the way you are guiding and counselling the people in this post. Proud to identify with you as a member of LLM Guide.
Well done and keep up the good work.
Are you pursuing LLM currently or you an applicant to many Law Schools like majority members on this website.
With best regards,
Brightest B
Dear myadav 2009 i really impressed by the way you are guiding and counselling the people in this post. Proud to identify with you as a member of LLM Guide.
Well done and keep up the good work.
Are you pursuing LLM currently or you an applicant to many Law Schools like majority members on this website.
With best regards,
Brightest B
Well done and keep up the good work.
Are you pursuing LLM currently or you an applicant to many Law Schools like majority members on this website.
With best regards,
Brightest B
Posted Feb 25, 2009 11:46
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myadav09 - great insights !!
Santa - what happened was funny !!
Neha - Enthusiasm is appreciated but it is important how it is toned.
Any idea as to when HLS is expected to roll first wave of offers ?
Its contemplated March end .
elelem
myadav09 - great insights !!
Santa - what happened was funny !!
Neha - Enthusiasm is appreciated but it is important how it is toned.
Any idea as to when HLS is expected to roll first wave of offers ?
Its contemplated March end .
elelem
Santa - what happened was funny !!
Neha - Enthusiasm is appreciated but it is important how it is toned.
Any idea as to when HLS is expected to roll first wave of offers ?
Its contemplated March end .
elelem
Posted Feb 25, 2009 11:53
0
Dear myadav 2009 i really impressed by the way you are guiding and counselling the people in this post. Proud to identify with you as a member of LLM Guide.
Well done and keep up the good work.
Are you pursuing LLM currently or you an applicant to many Law Schools like majority members on this website.
With best regards,
Brightest B
Hey Brightest B,
Thank you for your appreciation. I guess we all need help in making decisions and I think I found LLM Guide very helpful when I was still trying to make up my mind. Therefore I try and help others out and contribute to this little community of ours.
I am like any other applicant, though had only applied to 3 schools out if which I have been admitted to two of them and wait listed in one of them.
How about you?
I know you applied to a number of schools and have been admitted to NYU@NUS with Scholarship. where else did you apply?
I look forward to hearing from you.
Regards
myadav09
<blockquote>Dear myadav 2009 i really impressed by the way you are guiding and counselling the people in this post. Proud to identify with you as a member of LLM Guide.
Well done and keep up the good work.
Are you pursuing LLM currently or you an applicant to many Law Schools like majority members on this website.
With best regards,
Brightest B</blockquote>
Hey Brightest B,
Thank you for your appreciation. I guess we all need help in making decisions and I think I found LLM Guide very helpful when I was still trying to make up my mind. Therefore I try and help others out and contribute to this little community of ours.
I am like any other applicant, though had only applied to 3 schools out if which I have been admitted to two of them and wait listed in one of them.
How about you?
I know you applied to a number of schools and have been admitted to NYU@NUS with Scholarship. where else did you apply?
I look forward to hearing from you.
Regards
myadav09
Well done and keep up the good work.
Are you pursuing LLM currently or you an applicant to many Law Schools like majority members on this website.
With best regards,
Brightest B</blockquote>
Hey Brightest B,
Thank you for your appreciation. I guess we all need help in making decisions and I think I found LLM Guide very helpful when I was still trying to make up my mind. Therefore I try and help others out and contribute to this little community of ours.
I am like any other applicant, though had only applied to 3 schools out if which I have been admitted to two of them and wait listed in one of them.
How about you?
I know you applied to a number of schools and have been admitted to NYU@NUS with Scholarship. where else did you apply?
I look forward to hearing from you.
Regards
myadav09
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