Upenn vs LSE


I am really confused. Maybe this issue was discussed before. But here I go here again.

Which one should choose? I know that US job prospects are slim.Therefore, I will probably go back to my home country after LL.M. However, if I choose not to do so, I wonder which one is better in terms of reputation? both in US and UK/Europe

I specialize in Corporate Law.

Is it possible to secure a job with LSE LLM in US or UK/Europe?
I am really confused. Maybe this issue was discussed before. But here I go here again.

Which one should choose? I know that US job prospects are slim.Therefore, I will probably go back to my home country after LL.M. However, if I choose not to do so, I wonder which one is better in terms of reputation? both in US and UK/Europe

I specialize in Corporate Law.

Is it possible to secure a job with LSE LLM in US or UK/Europe?




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Good Gosh
I am really confused. Maybe this issue was discussed before. But here I go here again.

Which one should choose? I know that US job prospects are slim.Therefore, I will probably go back to my home country after LL.M. However, if I choose not to do so, I wonder which one is better in terms of reputation? both in US and UK/Europe

I specialize in Corporate Law.

Is it possible to secure a job with LSE LLM in US or UK/Europe?




in general lse's llm has a much stronger reputation than upenn's. however, as you want to specialise in corporate law that advantage may be dulled because of upenn's wharton school and upenn's general strength in business studies etc.

the lse's llm does not qualify you to work as a lawyer in the UK or in the US. upenn's llm does qualify you to work in the US (in certain states, including new york).

good luck with the decision...
<blockquote>I am really confused. Maybe this issue was discussed before. But here I go here again.

Which one should choose? I know that US job prospects are slim.Therefore, I will probably go back to my home country after LL.M. However, if I choose not to do so, I wonder which one is better in terms of reputation? both in US and UK/Europe

I specialize in Corporate Law.

Is it possible to secure a job with LSE LLM in US or UK/Europe?




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in general lse's llm has a much stronger reputation than upenn's. however, as you want to specialise in corporate law that advantage may be dulled because of upenn's wharton school and upenn's general strength in business studies etc.

the lse's llm does not qualify you to work as a lawyer in the UK or in the US. upenn's llm does qualify you to work in the US (in certain states, including new york).

good luck with the decision...
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I would think Penn's LL.M. program is more prestigious than LSE's, but that's just me.
I would think Penn's LL.M. program is more prestigious than LSE's, but that's just me.
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MAB79
I think it depends on where you plan your future. But LSE's program is more selective (starting from the GPA needed, over the TOEFL score (over 110) etc.), way harder to get in (more applicants, less space) and considered as one of the best. It's on the same level as Oxbridge. It is also very well known in the U.S., where, of course, the Ivy status of UPenn could tend into UPenn's direction. But if you are not into finding work in the U.S, which is very hard these days anyway, or if you want to live in the U.S for a year, I think LSE is better.

And believe me, it is not hard to find a Job in the U.K after graduating from LSE!
I think it depends on where you plan your future. But LSE's program is more selective (starting from the GPA needed, over the TOEFL score (over 110) etc.), way harder to get in (more applicants, less space) and considered as one of the best. It's on the same level as Oxbridge. It is also very well known in the U.S., where, of course, the Ivy status of UPenn could tend into UPenn's direction. But if you are not into finding work in the U.S, which is very hard these days anyway, or if you want to live in the U.S for a year, I think LSE is better.

And believe me, it is not hard to find a Job in the U.K after graduating from LSE!
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trout_face
On a broad level, there's not much difference between LSE and Penn (or, for that matter, between all the top law schools). When choosing between these kinds of schools, you have to consider your particular interests and the particular strengths of the universities to which you've applied. Also, location, and what you want out of the program. I had offers from both Penn and LSE (and a few others), and I chose Penn. But that is because they are better in my particular field of interest and I wanted the American experience (even though it's almost 5 times as expensive!).

But, if you're just looking at the universities generally, there's really not much of a difference between universities of this kind. Can't go wrong.

Final thing: I doubt very much that LSE is more selective than Penn. In fact, I've found top US LLMs harder to get into than top UK ones.
On a broad level, there's not much difference between LSE and Penn (or, for that matter, between all the top law schools). When choosing between these kinds of schools, you have to consider your particular interests and the particular strengths of the universities to which you've applied. Also, location, and what you want out of the program. I had offers from both Penn and LSE (and a few others), and I chose Penn. But that is because they are better in my particular field of interest and I wanted the American experience (even though it's almost 5 times as expensive!).

But, if you're just looking at the universities generally, there's really not much of a difference between universities of this kind. Can't go wrong.

Final thing: I doubt very much that LSE is more selective than Penn. In fact, I've found top US LLMs harder to get into than top UK ones.
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MAB79


Final thing: I doubt very much that LSE is more selective than Penn. In fact, I've found top US LLMs harder to get into than top UK ones.


Believe me, LSE is more selective than UPenn in general (particularly because of the admission criterias). And if there are no differences between top Unis, why would most of the applicants go rather to HLS, YLS or antoher top 5 School than to UPenn (if they did not apply for the Wharton Program!)? Further, LSE usually is on the same level as Oxbridge, while UPenn in most cases is not on the same level as HLS etc. At least not if you look at it in a subjective way.

Don't get me wrong: I'm not the kind of person who thinks that UPenn falls back behind the named schools, particularly not if you can do the joined degree. And I do support your statement that the moest important thing is to chose the school that best suits your interest and not chose a name only. But still: There are rankings, brand names etc. and in the UK LSE is rather like Stanford while UPenn is rather like Queen Mary...All good schools, but not all with the same brand...

And last: Funny, I had it much easier to get into the US schools I wanted. E.g. CLS accepted me, while UCL rejected me...
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Final thing: I doubt very much that LSE is more selective than Penn. In fact, I've found top US LLMs harder to get into than top UK ones. </blockquote>

Believe me, LSE is more selective than UPenn in general (particularly because of the admission criterias). And if there are no differences between top Unis, why would most of the applicants go rather to HLS, YLS or antoher top 5 School than to UPenn (if they did not apply for the Wharton Program!)? Further, LSE usually is on the same level as Oxbridge, while UPenn in most cases is not on the same level as HLS etc. At least not if you look at it in a subjective way.

Don't get me wrong: I'm not the kind of person who thinks that UPenn falls back behind the named schools, particularly not if you can do the joined degree. And I do support your statement that the moest important thing is to chose the school that best suits your interest and not chose a name only. But still: There are rankings, brand names etc. and in the UK LSE is rather like Stanford while UPenn is rather like Queen Mary...All good schools, but not all with the same brand...

And last: Funny, I had it much easier to get into the US schools I wanted. E.g. CLS accepted me, while UCL rejected me...
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Good Gosh
another thing to consider is quality of life. having visited both the lse law department and upenn's law school, i can tell you that the lse is FAR preferable to penn. penn's law school is, to put it frankly, a dump. i was shocked at its state. lse's law department is gleaming. obviously this should not be the primary consideration, but when i was scouting campuses i was really put off by penn, and could imagine being miserable in such a physical environment. but that's just me..
another thing to consider is quality of life. having visited both the lse law department and upenn's law school, i can tell you that the lse is FAR preferable to penn. penn's law school is, to put it frankly, a dump. i was shocked at its state. lse's law department is gleaming. obviously this should not be the primary consideration, but when i was scouting campuses i was really put off by penn, and could imagine being miserable in such a physical environment. but that's just me..
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guddu
I have been to law school at Oxford University and can tell you LSE is clearly there to make money, you can only do 4 courses in an LLM and the choice is extremely limited compared to what you can study in a US university. Yes, its a good university but the British education system does not have the breadth or diversity than an American education can give you. The poster who said you can easily get a job after LSE needs to verify his facts. At this moment you cannot "Easily" get a job even after Oxford or Cambridge.

However I appreciate that LSE might be less than half the price of UPENN - if cost is the issue, definitely go for LSE, but if the cost difference is not significant (for example if UPENN has offered you aid), you will not have any regret foregoing LSE
I have been to law school at Oxford University and can tell you LSE is clearly there to make money, you can only do 4 courses in an LLM and the choice is extremely limited compared to what you can study in a US university. Yes, its a good university but the British education system does not have the breadth or diversity than an American education can give you. The poster who said you can easily get a job after LSE needs to verify his facts. At this moment you cannot "Easily" get a job even after Oxford or Cambridge.

However I appreciate that LSE might be less than half the price of UPENN - if cost is the issue, definitely go for LSE, but if the cost difference is not significant (for example if UPENN has offered you aid), you will not have any regret foregoing LSE
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