NYU@NUS 2013-2014


Pegius

Hi everyone,

Got admitted as well; haven't yet made my mind as to the decision though.

Would love to hear some thoughts on the issues anika has put forward.

Hi everyone,

Got admitted as well; haven't yet made my mind as to the decision though.

Would love to hear some thoughts on the issues anika has put forward.
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pug315

Hi all! I got admitted as well. Received email last night. NYU@NUS is my only choice for an LL.M. program and I am so glad I got the offer.

Hi all! I got admitted as well. Received email last night. NYU@NUS is my only choice for an LL.M. program and I am so glad I got the offer.
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FJM0763

Hi everyone!

I'm new to the forum and am joining in on the discussion a bit late.

I received an offer as well for the NYU@NUS program, with Deans' Award, and am almost certain I'll be accepting. Anyone else with their minds made up (or almost there)?

Hi everyone!

I'm new to the forum and am joining in on the discussion a bit late.

I received an offer as well for the NYU@NUS program, with Deans' Award, and am almost certain I'll be accepting. Anyone else with their minds made up (or almost there)?
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sss5

Gregor2009,

Thanks for your insight.

Could you please throw some light on the employment opportunities available within Singapore? From what I've heard, there's a legislation restricting the number of foreign educated lawyers to work within law firms (again, this is hearsay information-haven't substantiated this with research yet.) Apart from this doubt, how is the NYU@NUS degree perceived within Singapore and within South East Asia in terms of generating employment opportunities. How have previous students from this program fared career wise after acquiring the degree?

Specifically, if you are aware of any Indian insight or someone with an Indian insight, then please do let us know as well.

You're serving as a great help here!

Gregor2009,

Thanks for your insight.

Could you please throw some light on the employment opportunities available within Singapore? From what I've heard, there's a legislation restricting the number of foreign educated lawyers to work within law firms (again, this is hearsay information-haven't substantiated this with research yet.) Apart from this doubt, how is the NYU@NUS degree perceived within Singapore and within South East Asia in terms of generating employment opportunities. How have previous students from this program fared career wise after acquiring the degree?

Specifically, if you are aware of any Indian insight or someone with an Indian insight, then please do let us know as well.

You're serving as a great help here!
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Gregor2009

Hello there sss5

There are no restrictions on foreign educated lawyers working in law firms in Singapore. The restrictions are purely on demand - whether law firms have a need for foreign lawyers. I understand that some Indians from prior batches managed to obtain employment in leading international law firms. However, these students tend to have solid experience back home and are therefore attractive to the firms here which have an Indian practice group. The ones with little or non-substantial experience tend to have a harder time securing interviews.

The NYU@NUS degree has a positive reputation in Singapore. NUS is a known university in Asia so the standing of the degree is of no issue. When it comes to employment, some students are picky and this eliminates opportunities from local law firms (some are open to considering only international law firms). Majority of the students would return home to work in law firms (there is no problem here). The degree is particularly beneficial to students in Europe, Canada and the US as employers there see having experience in Asia as a plus.

For students living in or around Asia, the short distance from home is a plus. Furthermore, there is possibility to fast-track the program in Singapore - thereby reducing the time away from home and the opportunity costs.

I trust that this is somewhat helpful.

Cheers

Hello there sss5

There are no restrictions on foreign educated lawyers working in law firms in Singapore. The restrictions are purely on demand - whether law firms have a need for foreign lawyers. I understand that some Indians from prior batches managed to obtain employment in leading international law firms. However, these students tend to have solid experience back home and are therefore attractive to the firms here which have an Indian practice group. The ones with little or non-substantial experience tend to have a harder time securing interviews.

The NYU@NUS degree has a positive reputation in Singapore. NUS is a known university in Asia so the standing of the degree is of no issue. When it comes to employment, some students are picky and this eliminates opportunities from local law firms (some are open to considering only international law firms). Majority of the students would return home to work in law firms (there is no problem here). The degree is particularly beneficial to students in Europe, Canada and the US as employers there see having experience in Asia as a plus.

For students living in or around Asia, the short distance from home is a plus. Furthermore, there is possibility to fast-track the program in Singapore - thereby reducing the time away from home and the opportunity costs.

I trust that this is somewhat helpful.

Cheers
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bornhoaxer

Okay, so this might be nervousness talking here.......
prompting me to spam the forum.....

Still no notification from them!

Also, so far, two things I've noticed:
- One full tuition waiver..
- Dean's award is primarily 25k with one or two exceptions..

And, the wait continues...

Okay, so this might be nervousness talking here.......
prompting me to spam the forum.....

Still no notification from them!

Also, so far, two things I've noticed:
- One full tuition waiver..
- Dean's award is primarily 25k with one or two exceptions..

And, the wait continues...
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perlas

You don't have to worry methinks. The results are expected to trickle in until March so you still have a long wait. :-)

You don't have to worry methinks. The results are expected to trickle in until March so you still have a long wait. :-)
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bornhoaxer

Got an offer from Columbia! No scholarship though....still waiting for this program's offer....seems like 25k is the set trend for the scholarship...apart from one exception....

Somehow, nyu@nus with scholarship does seem better...but columbia does help :).

Got an offer from Columbia! No scholarship though....still waiting for this program's offer....seems like 25k is the set trend for the scholarship...apart from one exception....

Somehow, nyu@nus with scholarship does seem better...but columbia does help :).
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rhino12345

Hey congratulations. But when did you get an offer from columbia?

Hey congratulations. But when did you get an offer from columbia?
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perlas

Hey there,

To those who got an offer and plan to accept, do you have any plans so far with respect to accommodations?

P

Hey there,

To those who got an offer and plan to accept, do you have any plans so far with respect to accommodations?

P
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anika

Hi!
So I have been thinking about this Program and the more I find out about it, the more attractive it appears!! I have really read good reviews on the internet. In fact, I havent read a single negative view on it!
So I plan to accept the offer soon!
Also, Gregor2009 - thanks for your comments! They have also helped me make my decision.
Bornhoaxer, I wish you luck and I hope you receive an offer soon! But you made it to Columbia, which is awesome!!
Perlas, well I checked accomodation and its a lot of work to figure out!! So yes, I want to look up accomodation and anyone else who got accepted and is thinking about accomodation, maybe we can help each other find it!
Also, those who have accepted the offer, by when do you plan to arrive in Singapore?

Hi!
So I have been thinking about this Program and the more I find out about it, the more attractive it appears!! I have really read good reviews on the internet. In fact, I havent read a single negative view on it!
So I plan to accept the offer soon!
Also, Gregor2009 - thanks for your comments! They have also helped me make my decision.
Bornhoaxer, I wish you luck and I hope you receive an offer soon! But you made it to Columbia, which is awesome!!
Perlas, well I checked accomodation and its a lot of work to figure out!! So yes, I want to look up accomodation and anyone else who got accepted and is thinking about accomodation, maybe we can help each other find it!
Also, those who have accepted the offer, by when do you plan to arrive in Singapore?
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Asiafan

Guys, about selling the degree to employers, yout don't have to worry much. You get two completly independent degrees, since it is a double degree program.

Your NUS degree looks just like any NUS degree and does not even mention the NYU part. You can chose any spezialisation that you would just as a mere NUS student and this spezialisation (or general LL.M.) will be reflected in the certificate.

The NYU degree is also independent from the NUS degree. The only link to the NUS program is that the spezialisation is mandatory "global business law" which is not a specialisation you can choose if you attend the LL.M in New York. You can attend the annual graduation ceremony with all other NYU LL.M graduates in New York, you are an NYU Alumni, you have access to the complete NYU career services and so on.

This is something completely different from a situation where a University itself would shut down and you hold a degree from a university that does not exist any longer, which could really be a problem. But given the fact that NYU and NUS are top law schools, this is not going to happen. Just have a look at the rise that NUS has made during the past years in International Rankings.

In other words: When you finish this program sucessfully, you hold two independent degrees from two Top Law Schools, one Top Law School in the US and the Nr. 1 Law School in Asia. So I guess there is no need for a further explanation...

http://www.go-llm.com/qs-world-university-rankings-law-2012/

Guys, about selling the degree to employers, yout don't have to worry much. You get two completly independent degrees, since it is a double degree program.

Your NUS degree looks just like any NUS degree and does not even mention the NYU part. You can chose any spezialisation that you would just as a mere NUS student and this spezialisation (or general LL.M.) will be reflected in the certificate.

The NYU degree is also independent from the NUS degree. The only link to the NUS program is that the spezialisation is mandatory "global business law" which is not a specialisation you can choose if you attend the LL.M in New York. You can attend the annual graduation ceremony with all other NYU LL.M graduates in New York, you are an NYU Alumni, you have access to the complete NYU career services and so on.

This is something completely different from a situation where a University itself would shut down and you hold a degree from a university that does not exist any longer, which could really be a problem. But given the fact that NYU and NUS are top law schools, this is not going to happen. Just have a look at the rise that NUS has made during the past years in International Rankings.

In other words: When you finish this program sucessfully, you hold two independent degrees from two Top Law Schools, one Top Law School in the US and the Nr. 1 Law School in Asia. So I guess there is no need for a further explanation...

http://www.go-llm.com/qs-world-university-rankings-law-2012/

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sss5

The program seems really tempting. However, I'm still trying to figure out the finances. It is really expensive, and my mind seems to be swaying end to end on a daily basis. This being the last batch adds to the swaying :-(.

With regard to accommodation, I think the University housing and Evan's lodge are viable options. You guys could check them out.

The program seems really tempting. However, I'm still trying to figure out the finances. It is really expensive, and my mind seems to be swaying end to end on a daily basis. This being the last batch adds to the swaying :-(.

With regard to accommodation, I think the University housing and Evan's lodge are viable options. You guys could check them out.
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Asiafan

I strongly discourage to consider Evans Lodge. That's the general opinion here at NUS.

Furthermore, with regard to University housing, we are mainly talking about College Green. U-Town is a bit far and the place is not really nice, even if it looks great on the flyers. Yes, the buildings are new, but the rooms often have not even Aircon. So if you consider University housing, go for College Green. Its just across the street opposite the Campus. Prices should be around 800 to 1000 SGD.

Beside from College Green, my advice is to find a private condo not too far from the Campus with 3-4 people and share the costs. The issue here is for most people that they are afraid of this option because you pay a deposit in the beginning, you have to take care everything your own (electricity, TV/Internet, may be furniture), but in the end, you can end up with paying not much more as in College Green but having a nicer place, pool and other facilities. (Even though I have to say that College Green has Basketball and Badmintion Courts as well).

I strongly discourage to consider Evans Lodge. That's the general opinion here at NUS.

Furthermore, with regard to University housing, we are mainly talking about College Green. U-Town is a bit far and the place is not really nice, even if it looks great on the flyers. Yes, the buildings are new, but the rooms often have not even Aircon. So if you consider University housing, go for College Green. Its just across the street opposite the Campus. Prices should be around 800 to 1000 SGD.

Beside from College Green, my advice is to find a private condo not too far from the Campus with 3-4 people and share the costs. The issue here is for most people that they are afraid of this option because you pay a deposit in the beginning, you have to take care everything your own (electricity, TV/Internet, may be furniture), but in the end, you can end up with paying not much more as in College Green but having a nicer place, pool and other facilities. (Even though I have to say that College Green has Basketball and Badmintion Courts as well).
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bornhoaxer

So turns out that I had received the acceptance mail from NYU on the 12th....:-D. It had been flagged into spam (Really don't know why!).

Got a 25k Dean's award as well...now wondering whether to take it up...Is 25k the maximum that they're waiving the fees..I mean its Spr and not NYC...the columbia offer seems doable...it would almost come up to the same amount w/o scholarship...

Is 25k the maximum that they're offering...apart from perlas..has anyone else got more than 25k? Figuring out the trend here...so any information would be highly helpful...please do reply...have to make this decision soon...of course, people who think how a trend in merit awards would impact my admission, please don't bother :-)...it's my personal take purely...that the trend of the merit awards shows the value of the program...especially in this year..the final year...

Thanks!

So turns out that I had received the acceptance mail from NYU on the 12th....:-D. It had been flagged into spam (Really don't know why!).

Got a 25k Dean's award as well...now wondering whether to take it up...Is 25k the maximum that they're waiving the fees..I mean its Spr and not NYC...the columbia offer seems doable...it would almost come up to the same amount w/o scholarship...

Is 25k the maximum that they're offering...apart from perlas..has anyone else got more than 25k? Figuring out the trend here...so any information would be highly helpful...please do reply...have to make this decision soon...of course, people who think how a trend in merit awards would impact my admission, please don't bother :-)...it's my personal take purely...that the trend of the merit awards shows the value of the program...especially in this year..the final year...

Thanks!
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vigdissig

Hi all, congratulations to those accepted and good luck to the rest! :)
I was offered admission with a 40K Dean's Award. For personal reasons I've decided not to accept the offer, even though it's a great one. By personal reasons I just mean my decision was not based on anything regarding the program itself, I still think it's a very interesting one.
I don't think too much emphasis should be put on the fact that they're concluding the program with this year's class, I agree with those who have pointed out that you get two separate degrees from two top schools.

Hi all, congratulations to those accepted and good luck to the rest! :)
I was offered admission with a 40K Dean's Award. For personal reasons I've decided not to accept the offer, even though it's a great one. By personal reasons I just mean my decision was not based on anything regarding the program itself, I still think it's a very interesting one.
I don't think too much emphasis should be put on the fact that they're concluding the program with this year's class, I agree with those who have pointed out that you get two separate degrees from two top schools.
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anika

Hi Bornhoaxer,
About the cost calculation, how can it be almost same for this Program and Columbia?
1. Because Columbia tution and mandatory fees is higher than the fees for this program and here you get a 25k waiver.
2. Also, even though Singapore is an expensive city, I believe that the cost of living in Singapore maybe slightly less than that in New York.
3. This is not just Singapore but NUS and NYU and you do get two degrees instead of one!

So I think that this program should be less costly than Columbia.

These are just my views about claculating the costs, since I think that is a very important consideration.

But I can totally understand your confusion regarding which offer to take and if money is not a very big consideration then it would be a tough call between this and Columbia.

But well lucky you, you have to pick one offer!

Hi Bornhoaxer,
About the cost calculation, how can it be almost same for this Program and Columbia?
1. Because Columbia tution and mandatory fees is higher than the fees for this program and here you get a 25k waiver.
2. Also, even though Singapore is an expensive city, I believe that the cost of living in Singapore maybe slightly less than that in New York.
3. This is not just Singapore but NUS and NYU and you do get two degrees instead of one!

So I think that this program should be less costly than Columbia.

These are just my views about claculating the costs, since I think that is a very important consideration.

But I can totally understand your confusion regarding which offer to take and if money is not a very big consideration then it would be a tough call between this and Columbia.

But well lucky you, you have to pick one offer!
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bornhoaxer

Hi Anika,

Thanks a lot for your reply.

I was calculating a 25K Dean's award based on a deduction from the 55k fees (5% markup), which leaves me with 30K as fees to pay....Columbia Law comes upto 54K...so yes, I see your point...however, I might have forgotten to mention that I have folks staying in NY...and that is where it would be an advantage...I had applied to NYU, NUS with the hope of a substantial scholarship which didn't work out...and the Asian experience wasn't the sole reason for applying...

I have time till the 27th to reply...let me see...how much scholarship did you get...are you confirmed on taking up the offer?

Hi Anika,

Thanks a lot for your reply.

I was calculating a 25K Dean's award based on a deduction from the 55k fees (5% markup), which leaves me with 30K as fees to pay....Columbia Law comes upto 54K...so yes, I see your point...however, I might have forgotten to mention that I have folks staying in NY...and that is where it would be an advantage...I had applied to NYU, NUS with the hope of a substantial scholarship which didn't work out...and the Asian experience wasn't the sole reason for applying...

I have time till the 27th to reply...let me see...how much scholarship did you get...are you confirmed on taking up the offer?
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anika

Hi Anika,

Thanks a lot for your reply.

I was calculating a 25K Dean's award based on a deduction from the 55k fees (5% markup), which leaves me with 30K as fees to pay....Columbia Law comes upto 54K...so yes, I see your point...however, I might have forgotten to mention that I have folks staying in NY...and that is where it would be an advantage...I had applied to NYU, NUS with the hope of a substantial scholarship which didn't work out...and the Asian experience wasn't the sole reason for applying...

I have time till the 27th to reply...let me see...how much scholarship did you get...are you confirmed on taking up the offer?


Hi bornhoaxer

Well ya if u have folks living in ny I totally see ur point! Then it's a total advantage for u! And then it's Columbia!

Well I got a 40k scholarship and for me the scholarship plays a really big role.... So I'm almost 90% sure I'll take it...
Also I've heard a lotta good reviews about this program and the fact that it'll be a small batch also makes a difference!
Well you have a tough call to make.
By the way did u apply for early review at Columbia ?
Also when did u receive the offer?

<blockquote>Hi Anika,

Thanks a lot for your reply.

I was calculating a 25K Dean's award based on a deduction from the 55k fees (5% markup), which leaves me with 30K as fees to pay....Columbia Law comes upto 54K...so yes, I see your point...however, I might have forgotten to mention that I have folks staying in NY...and that is where it would be an advantage...I had applied to NYU, NUS with the hope of a substantial scholarship which didn't work out...and the Asian experience wasn't the sole reason for applying...

I have time till the 27th to reply...let me see...how much scholarship did you get...are you confirmed on taking up the offer?</blockquote>

Hi bornhoaxer

Well ya if u have folks living in ny I totally see ur point! Then it's a total advantage for u! And then it's Columbia!

Well I got a 40k scholarship and for me the scholarship plays a really big role.... So I'm almost 90% sure I'll take it...
Also I've heard a lotta good reviews about this program and the fact that it'll be a small batch also makes a difference!
Well you have a tough call to make.
By the way did u apply for early review at Columbia ?
Also when did u receive the offer?
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I just received an offer with 25k Dean's Award. I applied for the NYU LLM as first choice but no decision on that yet. As a result I hadnt even really considered this program. What do you think would be the amount needed to fund it?

I just received an offer with 25k Dean's Award. I applied for the NYU LLM as first choice but no decision on that yet. As a result I hadnt even really considered this program. What do you think would be the amount needed to fund it?
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