LL.M in new york?


Aurelius
hello!
I will finish law in october 2007 in Switzerland and I would like to do a LL.M in NYC. Does anyone know a good University? I have more or less good marks but not fantastic... So I think, it won't be possible to be admitt in a very goog University. Does anybody know a University who accept also "normal" student?
Thank you,
Flora



What university are you from? :p
<blockquote>hello!
I will finish law in october 2007 in Switzerland and I would like to do a LL.M in NYC. Does anyone know a good University? I have more or less good marks but not fantastic... So I think, it won't be possible to be admitt in a very goog University. Does anybody know a University who accept also "normal" student?
Thank you,
Flora</blockquote>


What university are you from? :p
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Aurelius
and if I have some cross-border deal in the future, I will know who to call.


An allied law firm? :p
<blockquote>and if I have some cross-border deal in the future, I will know who to call. </blockquote>

An allied law firm? :p
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i am a strong beleiver that you should opt for a law college according to your academic results,if u re not that high ranker or posses academic results then there is no employ of joining a highly fecilated university.A easy going student will blatantly feel subtle in a cluster of intellectual law students.This will for sure hampen his/her mental growth as well.Its better to stick with a college where u will hit upon analogous students.
U have to lose somethin to acheive many stuff.
i am a strong beleiver that you should opt for a law college according to your academic results,if u re not that high ranker or posses academic results then there is no employ of joining a highly fecilated university.A easy going student will blatantly feel subtle in a cluster of intellectual law students.This will for sure hampen his/her mental growth as well.Its better to stick with a college where u will hit upon analogous students.
U have to lose somethin to acheive many stuff.
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hi ...i have been reading d above stated discussions...well i need some advice...i am from india i compleated my law school here in india in 2002 and now m planing to do an llm from new york i have almost 4 and a half years of practical experiance as a litigation lawyer..what are my cahnces if i apply for llm @ nyu fordham hofta.. coz they are the only ones left..deadlines for the other schools ahve already expired...another thing i want 2 know is what are the job prospects in the US after i complete my llm from new york from one of the schools mentioned above and do i need to give the new york bar exam to get any job i mean is it mandatory to be admitted to the bar if u want to do a job in the US after doing an llm any suggessions would be welcome my email is devansahni@gmail.com


hey man...if u have a experience of practice in a jurisdiction which is based on common law(india blatantly does).u can directly appear for the washington bar exam.
only new york,washington & california allow for foreign students.
if u have spent so much of time in practice then why u want to opt for LLM.After llm also u have to pass the state bar exam.
<blockquote>hi ...i have been reading d above stated discussions...well i need some advice...i am from india i compleated my law school here in india in 2002 and now m planing to do an llm from new york i have almost 4 and a half years of practical experiance as a litigation lawyer..what are my cahnces if i apply for llm @ nyu fordham hofta.. coz they are the only ones left..deadlines for the other schools ahve already expired...another thing i want 2 know is what are the job prospects in the US after i complete my llm from new york from one of the schools mentioned above and do i need to give the new york bar exam to get any job i mean is it mandatory to be admitted to the bar if u want to do a job in the US after doing an llm any suggessions would be welcome my email is devansahni@gmail.com </blockquote>

hey man...if u have a experience of practice in a jurisdiction which is based on common law(india blatantly does).u can directly appear for the washington bar exam.
only new york,washington & california allow for foreign students.
if u have spent so much of time in practice then why u want to opt for LLM.After llm also u have to pass the state bar exam.
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fg
I've always thought that complaints about the size of an LLM class can become immature. Consider that many people want to work in big New York law firms whose New York offices have hundreds of lawyers. Consider too that any law school will have far more JD students than LLMs, and one would want to meet them as well.


I don't really follow the point here. All I can say is that despite being in a firm of 400+ people I have almost zero people contact. All goes via email and I can go for days without speaking to anyone but my secretary least of all a JD (who, btw, are often extremely competitive/cliquey/overworked to want to make small talk).
Which is why I loiter around this forum...
<blockquote>I've always thought that complaints about the size of an LLM class can become immature. Consider that many people want to work in big New York law firms whose New York offices have hundreds of lawyers. Consider too that any law school will have far more JD students than LLMs, and one would want to meet them as well.</blockquote>

I don't really follow the point here. All I can say is that despite being in a firm of 400+ people I have almost zero people contact. All goes via email and I can go for days without speaking to anyone but my secretary least of all a JD (who, btw, are often extremely competitive/cliquey/overworked to want to make small talk).
Which is why I loiter around this forum...
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I've always thought that complaints about the size of an LLM class can become immature. Consider that many people want to work in big New York law firms whose New York offices have hundreds of lawyers. Consider too that any law school will have far more JD students than LLMs, and one would want to meet them as well.


I don't really follow the point here. All I can say is that despite being in a firm of 400+ people I have almost zero people contact. All goes via email and I can go for days without speaking to anyone but my secretary least of all a JD (who, btw, are often extremely competitive/cliquey/overworked to want to make small talk).
Which is why I loiter around this forum...


i am a strong contender that study of law is unfeasible in a huge group of 400 students,but what if there is not much alternative .high ranked universities wont prefer to choose such students.
more over it depends on ure hard work then anything else .
<blockquote><blockquote>I've always thought that complaints about the size of an LLM class can become immature. Consider that many people want to work in big New York law firms whose New York offices have hundreds of lawyers. Consider too that any law school will have far more JD students than LLMs, and one would want to meet them as well.</blockquote>

I don't really follow the point here. All I can say is that despite being in a firm of 400+ people I have almost zero people contact. All goes via email and I can go for days without speaking to anyone but my secretary least of all a JD (who, btw, are often extremely competitive/cliquey/overworked to want to make small talk).
Which is why I loiter around this forum...</blockquote>

i am a strong contender that study of law is unfeasible in a huge group of 400 students,but what if there is not much alternative .high ranked universities wont prefer to choose such students.
more over it depends on ure hard work then anything else .
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fg
I am a bit confused (probably because I haven't been bothered to read this entire thread - sorry) but the actual lectures aren't 400 people even if they take that many. CLS takes around 200 students but I took mainly seminars where there were only around 15 people there. It was a perfect size. Large enough to get a diversity of opinions but small enough to hear from everybody.
I am a bit confused (probably because I haven't been bothered to read this entire thread - sorry) but the actual lectures aren't 400 people even if they take that many. CLS takes around 200 students but I took mainly seminars where there were only around 15 people there. It was a perfect size. Large enough to get a diversity of opinions but small enough to hear from everybody.
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I am a bit confused (probably because I haven't been bothered to read this entire thread - sorry) but the actual lectures aren't 400 people even if they take that many. CLS takes around 200 students but I took mainly seminars where there were only around 15 people there. It was a perfect size. Large enough to get a diversity of opinions but small enough to hear from everybody.

From my infernce of the whole issue there are around 200 students attending a SEMINAR ....
admitting 450 students for a single LLM BATCH is too much.
where re from u doing ure LLM...
<blockquote>I am a bit confused (probably because I haven't been bothered to read this entire thread - sorry) but the actual lectures aren't 400 people even if they take that many. CLS takes around 200 students but I took mainly seminars where there were only around 15 people there. It was a perfect size. Large enough to get a diversity of opinions but small enough to hear from everybody.</blockquote>
From my infernce of the whole issue there are around 200 students attending a SEMINAR ....
admitting 450 students for a single LLM BATCH is too much.
where re from u doing ure LLM...
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partapadv
i did my law degree from india in 1988 and i started practising on civil and criminal side in punjab (Northern India). now i want to do LLM...My medium of instruction during the law College was english........ what r the requirements for Admission in LLM and when the sessions starts.........plz inform me
thanks........
PARTAP SINGH
i did my law degree from india in 1988 and i started practising on civil and criminal side in punjab (Northern India). now i want to do LLM...My medium of instruction during the law College was english........ what r the requirements for Admission in LLM and when the sessions starts.........plz inform me
thanks........
PARTAP SINGH
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setho
That all depends on what school you want to go to. Why not go to the website of the university and look up the requirements, it isnt very hard and shouldn't take very long.
That all depends on what school you want to go to. Why not go to the website of the university and look up the requirements, it isnt very hard and shouldn't take very long.
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ozman
guys im rly interested in pursuing an llm from NYU... however my problem is that i have a lower second class honours in my LLB(i hope someone here is from the uk or understands the degree classification to understand my grades), i have also done my bar vocational course and i am a barrister as well... what i would like to know is that what are my chances of being admitted into the llm programme at nyu...
guys im rly interested in pursuing an llm from NYU... however my problem is that i have a lower second class honours in my LLB(i hope someone here is from the uk or understands the degree classification to understand my grades), i have also done my bar vocational course and i am a barrister as well... what i would like to know is that what are my chances of being admitted into the llm programme at nyu...
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sshukla
HI
I m also from India and have similar quesitons as you have. Did u find answers to any of your questions ? I have completed part I of LLM in corporate law from India. I also have two years experience working as a lawyer for a consumer welfare NGO. Now I wish to pursue LLM in NY. But I have similar doubts like you. If you are able to obtain any information about the LLM program in NY in any of the colleges like NYU, Columbia, FOrdham, Cardozo, Cornell, Touro etc....would you mind sharing it with me ?

Thanks
hi ...i have been reading d above stated discussions...well i need some advice...i am from india i compleated my law school here in india in 2002 and now m planing to do an llm from new york i have almost 4 and a half years of practical experiance as a litigation lawyer..what are my cahnces if i apply for llm @ nyu fordham hofta.. coz they are the only ones left..deadlines for the other schools ahve already expired...another thing i want 2 know is what are the job prospects in the US after i complete my llm from new york from one of the schools mentioned above and do i need to give the new york bar exam to get any job i mean is it mandatory to be admitted to the bar if u want to do a job in the US after doing an llm any suggessions would be welcome my email is devansahni@gmail.com
HI
I m also from India and have similar quesitons as you have. Did u find answers to any of your questions ? I have completed part I of LLM in corporate law from India. I also have two years experience working as a lawyer for a consumer welfare NGO. Now I wish to pursue LLM in NY. But I have similar doubts like you. If you are able to obtain any information about the LLM program in NY in any of the colleges like NYU, Columbia, FOrdham, Cardozo, Cornell, Touro etc....would you mind sharing it with me ?

Thanks <blockquote>hi ...i have been reading d above stated discussions...well i need some advice...i am from india i compleated my law school here in india in 2002 and now m planing to do an llm from new york i have almost 4 and a half years of practical experiance as a litigation lawyer..what are my cahnces if i apply for llm @ nyu fordham hofta.. coz they are the only ones left..deadlines for the other schools ahve already expired...another thing i want 2 know is what are the job prospects in the US after i complete my llm from new york from one of the schools mentioned above and do i need to give the new york bar exam to get any job i mean is it mandatory to be admitted to the bar if u want to do a job in the US after doing an llm any suggessions would be welcome my email is devansahni@gmail.com </blockquote>
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fengerjia
hi guys! i am a graduate who plans to go to NYU directly after university.I am wondering wIll i be one of the several students from China out of the 400 students all over the world?I want to know what is my possibilities of an admission though I am with good grades and good intern experience.
hi guys! i am a graduate who plans to go to NYU directly after university.I am wondering wIll i be one of the several students from China out of the 400 students all over the world?I want to know what is my possibilities of an admission though I am with good grades and good intern experience.
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trollsoft
This aversion to a large school is ridiculous:

1. Professors won't know me. No, class size is still the same, there are just more professors.
2. Rare is valuable. True for precious metals, opposite for degrees. Jobs and degrees deal in social networking. The bigger the alumni network (coupled with prestige) the more your degree is worth. Have fun hunting for help from alumni when there are only 80 a year.

Aside from having more trouble finding an alumni to help you out there's really only one question, do you want 20 classes to chose from or a 100?

I went to a big school for JD, and NYU for LLM, I am so happy with the plethora of interesting classes offered at all hours of the day. Sure I have a lot of people in the halls with me, but whether 100 or 500 students I can only handle being friends with about 20 so I don't care.
This aversion to a large school is ridiculous:

1. Professors won't know me. No, class size is still the same, there are just more professors.
2. Rare is valuable. True for precious metals, opposite for degrees. Jobs and degrees deal in social networking. The bigger the alumni network (coupled with prestige) the more your degree is worth. Have fun hunting for help from alumni when there are only 80 a year.

Aside from having more trouble finding an alumni to help you out there's really only one question, do you want 20 classes to chose from or a 100?

I went to a big school for JD, and NYU for LLM, I am so happy with the plethora of interesting classes offered at all hours of the day. Sure I have a lot of people in the halls with me, but whether 100 or 500 students I can only handle being friends with about 20 so I don't care.
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Hello everybody,
I am an Italian lawyer who would love to undertake an LLM in New York, especially in NYU. I would like to find a job in a Manhattan law firm.
Nevertheless, I would have a question: is it easy to find a job after NYU, Columbia or else? My question refers in particular to the corporate program of NYU.
Thank you all.
Hello everybody,
I am an Italian lawyer who would love to undertake an LLM in New York, especially in NYU. I would like to find a job in a Manhattan law firm.
Nevertheless, I would have a question: is it easy to find a job after NYU, Columbia or else? My question refers in particular to the corporate program of NYU.
Thank you all.
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Or, at least: would I find a job?
Or, at least: would I find a job?
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ivan2006
It depends on so many factors - e.g. situation of the job market, country of origin, grades, etc. I think there is no sure thing when it comes to jobs, and the LLM can be a risky experience. For instance, 5 months ago, when I graduated, the market was upbeat, everybody was getting jobs, all firms were hiring the biggest classes ever... And many people relied on that. Now, with the credit crunch, etc., I have my doubts that the LLMs graduating in 2008 will have it as easy as the 2007 graduates had it... (I hope I'm wrong).

On the question about whether the Columbia/ NYU grads have an advantage over other candidates re jobs: I think they do have a slight edge, since they have more chances to network due to the fact that they are in the City. Of course, it doesn't mean that they will beat grads from Harvard, Chicago, Duke or Penn - but they might be in a more favorable position.
It depends on so many factors - e.g. situation of the job market, country of origin, grades, etc. I think there is no sure thing when it comes to jobs, and the LLM can be a risky experience. For instance, 5 months ago, when I graduated, the market was upbeat, everybody was getting jobs, all firms were hiring the biggest classes ever... And many people relied on that. Now, with the credit crunch, etc., I have my doubts that the LLMs graduating in 2008 will have it as easy as the 2007 graduates had it... (I hope I'm wrong).

On the question about whether the Columbia/ NYU grads have an advantage over other candidates re jobs: I think they do have a slight edge, since they have more chances to network due to the fact that they are in the City. Of course, it doesn't mean that they will beat grads from Harvard, Chicago, Duke or Penn - but they might be in a more favorable position.
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mllm
I'm hesitating whether taking NYC L.L.M or Toronto/Ottawa LL.B to be admitted to local bar examination and probably find nice job in the same cities after graduating. As I can see, each of the choices has its benefits. As regards Canada, it's not a problem finding a good job after passing local LL.B (3 years) and bar exams. But what are the perspectives in NY? How hard is it to find a legal job after passing NY LL.M and bar exams, does anybody know?
I'm hesitating whether taking NYC L.L.M or Toronto/Ottawa LL.B to be admitted to local bar examination and probably find nice job in the same cities after graduating. As I can see, each of the choices has its benefits. As regards Canada, it's not a problem finding a good job after passing local LL.B (3 years) and bar exams. But what are the perspectives in NY? How hard is it to find a legal job after passing NY LL.M and bar exams, does anybody know?
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