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CSJTax

Way to go CSJtax!

Thanks, CPAJD! Did you decide on Georgetown or are you still waiting on NYU?

<blockquote>Way to go CSJtax!</blockquote>
Thanks, CPAJD! Did you decide on Georgetown or are you still waiting on NYU?
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Alinoa

I'm in ! : )

I'm in ! : )
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weatherlol

Awesome News CSJTax. unfortunately, mine still remains as "application completed". but my status date as 02/01/2013. (even though my actual completion was 01/11/2013) I think this was because they deferred me on the early action on 02/01/2013. is this similar to your situation?
Again, Congras for the admission. finally we have some good news :)

Awesome News CSJTax. unfortunately, mine still remains as "application completed". but my status date as 02/01/2013. (even though my actual completion was 01/11/2013) I think this was because they deferred me on the early action on 02/01/2013. is this similar to your situation?
Again, Congras for the admission. finally we have some good news :)
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CPAJD

Way to go CSJtax!

Thanks, CPAJD! Did you decide on Georgetown or are you still waiting on NYU?


I finally sucked it up and sent updated transcripts to NYU today. I'm still set on Georgetown, but scholarships would help sway my decision.

<blockquote><blockquote>Way to go CSJtax!</blockquote>
Thanks, CPAJD! Did you decide on Georgetown or are you still waiting on NYU?</blockquote>

I finally sucked it up and sent updated transcripts to NYU today. I'm still set on Georgetown, but scholarships would help sway my decision.
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CSJTax

Awesome News CSJTax. unfortunately, mine still remains as "application completed". but my status date as 02/01/2013. (even though my actual completion was 01/11/2013) I think this was because they deferred me on the early action on 02/01/2013. is this similar to your situation?
Again, Congras for the admission. finally we have some good news :)


weatherlol - I did not go "Under Review" during Early Action so this was my first time "Under Review." I made the Early Action deadline but I guess they unofficially deferred me because they had a question about my prerequisites since it was so long ago that I got my JD (19 years ago).

But yes, it is nice to finally see some more activity. I hope you do not have to wait too much longer.

<blockquote>Awesome News CSJTax. unfortunately, mine still remains as "application completed". but my status date as 02/01/2013. (even though my actual completion was 01/11/2013) I think this was because they deferred me on the early action on 02/01/2013. is this similar to your situation?
Again, Congras for the admission. finally we have some good news :) </blockquote>

weatherlol - I did not go "Under Review" during Early Action so this was my first time "Under Review." I made the Early Action deadline but I guess they unofficially deferred me because they had a question about my prerequisites since it was so long ago that I got my JD (19 years ago).

But yes, it is nice to finally see some more activity. I hope you do not have to wait too much longer.
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CSJTax

I'm in ! : )

Cool. Congrats!

<blockquote>I'm in ! : )</blockquote>
Cool. Congrats!
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12anon34

Congrats, CSJ! I've been checking back frequently to see an update from you. So are you definitely going or are you waiting to hear from other schools?

Congrats, CSJ! I've been checking back frequently to see an update from you. So are you definitely going or are you waiting to hear from other schools?
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CSJTax

Congrats, CSJ! I've been checking back frequently to see an update from you. So are you definitely going or are you waiting to hear from other schools?

Hi 12anon34, thanks for checking back on me!

GULC is my first and only choice. It's local to me & I'm going part time so I can keep my full time practice. It has the most impressive Estate Planning curriculum that I saw at any of the top schools and that is my practice area. Also, it has an extremely good reputation locally and I will continue to practice in DC & Maryland. Anecdotally, it seems that more estate planning attys here in Maryland have Tax LLMs from GULC than any of the other top 3 programs. So no brainier for me.

I dont remember if you've already answered this question: Have you made your decision yet?

<blockquote>Congrats, CSJ! I've been checking back frequently to see an update from you. So are you definitely going or are you waiting to hear from other schools?</blockquote>
Hi 12anon34, thanks for checking back on me!

GULC is my first and only choice. It's local to me & I'm going part time so I can keep my full time practice. It has the most impressive Estate Planning curriculum that I saw at any of the top schools and that is my practice area. Also, it has an extremely good reputation locally and I will continue to practice in DC & Maryland. Anecdotally, it seems that more estate planning attys here in Maryland have Tax LLMs from GULC than any of the other top 3 programs. So no brainier for me.

I dont remember if you've already answered this question: Have you made your decision yet?
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CSJTax

12anon34 - I went back & checked the message boards--you are "for sure going" to GULC! I'll see you there! We may be the only "over 30's" in the class. Career value definitely counts!

12anon34 - I went back & checked the message boards--you are "for sure going" to GULC! I'll see you there! We may be the only "over 30's" in the class. Career value definitely counts!
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cigarman

Um... if you are the only over 30's I'm going to have to lose 18 years and a bunch of my children...

Um... if you are the only over 30's I'm going to have to lose 18 years and a bunch of my children...
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12anon34

Cigarman, you made me laugh out loud!

We may be the only over 30s posting in this thread, but I'm sure a large number of our classmates will have previous work experience. I tried to find an incoming class profile from a prior year to get an idea of student age, but their website is such a convoluted mess I gave up briefly after trying.

CSJ, how's the wills and estates business in the local area? I'm thinking about getting the certificate, but I keep hearing that Legal Zoom, et al, is taking a big chunk away from this area of practice. Really, though, I'm not sure on my area of concentration, other than "not corporate," but I also know better than to say never. More than once in my life I've fallen into a job I thought I'd hate only to end up really enjoying it (and vice versa), so I'm keeping an open mind.

Cigarman, you made me laugh out loud!

We may be the only over 30s posting in this thread, but I'm sure a large number of our classmates will have previous work experience. I tried to find an incoming class profile from a prior year to get an idea of student age, but their website is such a convoluted mess I gave up briefly after trying.

CSJ, how's the wills and estates business in the local area? I'm thinking about getting the certificate, but I keep hearing that Legal Zoom, et al, is taking a big chunk away from this area of practice. Really, though, I'm not sure on my area of concentration, other than "not corporate," but I also know better than to say never. More than once in my life I've fallen into a job I thought I'd hate only to end up really enjoying it (and vice versa), so I'm keeping an open mind.
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SB9

I just received my acceptance email! Whew!

Email Subject is "Congratulations from Georgetown Law." Email says that the official acceptance letter and package will arrive by mail.

Domestic Student
Applied to Tax LLM plus Estate Planning Certificate (part time)
Graduated from Tier 2 school (rank is in the 60's) 19 years ago
GPA - 3.3
Class rank - Top 40%
Studied & practiced Intellectual Property Law
Career switch to Estate Planning 3 years ago

I think career experience and current estate planning practice area made up for low class rank.

Application Submitted: Jan 4 2013
Application Completed: Jan 8 2013
Under Review: Feb 20 2013
Acceptance Email: Feb 21 2013
Status Changed Back to Application Completed: Feb 21 2013

I hope this info helps those of you still waiting. Good Luck!!


Congratulations CSJTax. So happy for u :)

<blockquote>I just received my acceptance email! Whew!

Email Subject is "Congratulations from Georgetown Law." Email says that the official acceptance letter and package will arrive by mail.

Domestic Student
Applied to Tax LLM plus Estate Planning Certificate (part time)
Graduated from Tier 2 school (rank is in the 60's) 19 years ago
GPA - 3.3
Class rank - Top 40%
Studied & practiced Intellectual Property Law
Career switch to Estate Planning 3 years ago

I think career experience and current estate planning practice area made up for low class rank.

Application Submitted: Jan 4 2013
Application Completed: Jan 8 2013
Under Review: Feb 20 2013
Acceptance Email: Feb 21 2013
Status Changed Back to Application Completed: Feb 21 2013

I hope this info helps those of you still waiting. Good Luck!!</blockquote>

Congratulations CSJTax. So happy for u :)
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CSJTax

Um... if you are the only over 30's I'm going to have to lose 18 years and a bunch of my children...

Well I'm glad to know there's at least one over 40 like me. I'm sure there are more, just haven't noticed them on this board. A colleague of mine finished the program last year and she is over 40. Age and experience probably were big advantages on our applications.

<blockquote>Um... if you are the only over 30's I'm going to have to lose 18 years and a bunch of my children...</blockquote>
Well I'm glad to know there's at least one over 40 like me. I'm sure there are more, just haven't noticed them on this board. A colleague of mine finished the program last year and she is over 40. Age and experience probably were big advantages on our applications.
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cigarman

My classmates for JD were the same age as my oldest son! It was very intresting learning about:
1) You don't talk to the person next to you... You text them!
2) You don't wait until after class to try and form your group for group project. They all did it during class on Gchat... and now you are left with captain stinky and stoner boy!
3) You report all your daily activities on facebook like people actually care or you are some celbratard... "I'm doing laundry now!"... Huh? Why would anyone care???
4) You post stuff online we hid from our parents, like those drunken moments at the frat house wearing the tutu and pirate jacket.
5) You have no clue what you take in school *might* actually impact you getting a JOB... Animal Rights Jurisprudence? Seriously? You think, "fluffy" has a visa card and can pay you.
6) Snooki? Really? Are you people THAT stupid?
Going back to my mid life crisis porsche convertable and cigar now...

My classmates for JD were the same age as my oldest son! It was very intresting learning about:
1) You don't talk to the person next to you... You text them!
2) You don't wait until after class to try and form your group for group project. They all did it during class on Gchat... and now you are left with captain stinky and stoner boy!
3) You report all your daily activities on facebook like people actually care or you are some celbratard... "I'm doing laundry now!"... Huh? Why would anyone care???
4) You post stuff online we hid from our parents, like those drunken moments at the frat house wearing the tutu and pirate jacket.
5) You have no clue what you take in school *might* actually impact you getting a JOB... Animal Rights Jurisprudence? Seriously? You think, "fluffy" has a visa card and can pay you.
6) Snooki? Really? Are you people THAT stupid?
Going back to my mid life crisis porsche convertable and cigar now...
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CSJTax

CSJ, how's the wills and estates business in the local area? I'm thinking about getting the certificate, but I keep hearing that Legal Zoom, et al, is taking a big chunk away from this area of practice. Really, though, I'm not sure on my area of concentration, other than "not corporate," but I also know better than to say never. More than once in my life I've fallen into a job I thought I'd hate only to end up really enjoying it (and vice versa), so I'm keeping an open mind.

The estates and trusts practice here in Maryland/DC/Virginia actually is thriving. People in MD/DC/VA are fairly affluent. The Maryland Estate Tax threshold is decoupled from the Fed Estate Tax threshold ($5M+); and Maryland is $1M. Accordingly, most people with even modest wealth need bypass trusts and QTIPs, so it is a little more interesting than other geographies. Government workers (and we have many here!) surprisingly have substantial retirement and life insurance assets through their work. Plus real estate values are finally going up again. So government workers tend to exceed the $1M asset mark, even if they don't have liquid asssets.

LegalZoom is taking a bite out of the lower end of the legal services market. I have my own practice and work typically with clients in the $1M to $5M range. But I actually have gotten many clients who have "internet wills" who come to me to review them. I review them, show them how terrible they are, and they pay me for a real estate plan. At least half of them actually need trust-based estate plans. So they pay for a $50 online will then come to me and pay me several thousand for a real estate plan.

I'm hearing that mid to large local law firms are extremely busy and hiring in estate planning. LegalZoom has absolutely no impact on those firms. Their clients are affluent and have assets between $3M to $10M+. They do a lot of interesting work like asset protection planning, Family Limited Partnerships, LLCs, Irrevocable Life Insurance Trusts, business succession planning, etc.

So maybe take some estate planning classes in the Tax program and see what you think. You can always get the Tax LLM now and add the certificate later. The certificate can be done standalone and you can transfer some (I don't know how many) credits from the LLM to the certificate.

<blockquote>CSJ, how's the wills and estates business in the local area? I'm thinking about getting the certificate, but I keep hearing that Legal Zoom, et al, is taking a big chunk away from this area of practice. Really, though, I'm not sure on my area of concentration, other than "not corporate," but I also know better than to say never. More than once in my life I've fallen into a job I thought I'd hate only to end up really enjoying it (and vice versa), so I'm keeping an open mind.</blockquote>
The estates and trusts practice here in Maryland/DC/Virginia actually is thriving. People in MD/DC/VA are fairly affluent. The Maryland Estate Tax threshold is decoupled from the Fed Estate Tax threshold ($5M+); and Maryland is $1M. Accordingly, most people with even modest wealth need bypass trusts and QTIPs, so it is a little more interesting than other geographies. Government workers (and we have many here!) surprisingly have substantial retirement and life insurance assets through their work. Plus real estate values are finally going up again. So government workers tend to exceed the $1M asset mark, even if they don't have liquid asssets.

LegalZoom is taking a bite out of the lower end of the legal services market. I have my own practice and work typically with clients in the $1M to $5M range. But I actually have gotten many clients who have "internet wills" who come to me to review them. I review them, show them how terrible they are, and they pay me for a real estate plan. At least half of them actually need trust-based estate plans. So they pay for a $50 online will then come to me and pay me several thousand for a real estate plan.

I'm hearing that mid to large local law firms are extremely busy and hiring in estate planning. LegalZoom has absolutely no impact on those firms. Their clients are affluent and have assets between $3M to $10M+. They do a lot of interesting work like asset protection planning, Family Limited Partnerships, LLCs, Irrevocable Life Insurance Trusts, business succession planning, etc.

So maybe take some estate planning classes in the Tax program and see what you think. You can always get the Tax LLM now and add the certificate later. The certificate can be done standalone and you can transfer some (I don't know how many) credits from the LLM to the certificate.
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The estates and trusts practice here in Maryland/DC/Virginia actually is thriving. People in MD/DC/VA are fairly affluent. The Maryland Estate Tax threshold is decoupled from the Fed Estate Tax threshold ($5M+); and Maryland is $1M. Accordingly, most people with even modest wealth need bypass trusts and QTIPs, so it is a little more interesting than other geographies. Government workers (and we have many here!) surprisingly have substantial retirement and life insurance assets through their work. Plus real estate values are finally going up again. So government workers tend to exceed the $1M asset mark, even if they don't have liquid asssets.

LegalZoom is taking a bite out of the lower end of the legal services market. I have my own practice and work typically with clients in the $1M to $5M range. But I actually have gotten many clients who have "internet wills" who come to me to review them. I review them, show them how terrible they are, and they pay me for a real estate plan. At least half of them actually need trust-based estate plans. So they pay for a $50 online will then come to me and pay me several thousand for a real estate plan.

I'm hearing that mid to large local law firms are extremely busy and hiring in estate planning. LegalZoom has absolutely no impact on those firms. Their clients are affluent and have assets between $3M to $10M+. They do a lot of interesting work like asset protection planning, Family Limited Partnerships, LLCs, Irrevocable Life Insurance Trusts, business succession planning, etc.

So maybe take some estate planning classes in the Tax program and see what you think. You can always get the Tax LLM now and add the certificate later. The certificate can be done standalone and you can transfer some (I don't know how many) credits from the LLM to the certificate.


This is great to know. Thank you for sharing it. I am interested in the same field and it is good to know that the lifetime exclusion didn't kill the business.

Congrats on the offer!

<blockquote>
The estates and trusts practice here in Maryland/DC/Virginia actually is thriving. People in MD/DC/VA are fairly affluent. The Maryland Estate Tax threshold is decoupled from the Fed Estate Tax threshold ($5M+); and Maryland is $1M. Accordingly, most people with even modest wealth need bypass trusts and QTIPs, so it is a little more interesting than other geographies. Government workers (and we have many here!) surprisingly have substantial retirement and life insurance assets through their work. Plus real estate values are finally going up again. So government workers tend to exceed the $1M asset mark, even if they don't have liquid asssets.

LegalZoom is taking a bite out of the lower end of the legal services market. I have my own practice and work typically with clients in the $1M to $5M range. But I actually have gotten many clients who have "internet wills" who come to me to review them. I review them, show them how terrible they are, and they pay me for a real estate plan. At least half of them actually need trust-based estate plans. So they pay for a $50 online will then come to me and pay me several thousand for a real estate plan.

I'm hearing that mid to large local law firms are extremely busy and hiring in estate planning. LegalZoom has absolutely no impact on those firms. Their clients are affluent and have assets between $3M to $10M+. They do a lot of interesting work like asset protection planning, Family Limited Partnerships, LLCs, Irrevocable Life Insurance Trusts, business succession planning, etc.

So maybe take some estate planning classes in the Tax program and see what you think. You can always get the Tax LLM now and add the certificate later. The certificate can be done standalone and you can transfer some (I don't know how many) credits from the LLM to the certificate.</blockquote>

This is great to know. Thank you for sharing it. I am interested in the same field and it is good to know that the lifetime exclusion didn't kill the business.

Congrats on the offer!
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GodBless

Don't know if anyone cares to know but- I received my admission letter yesterday. The dean has put in a hand written note saying they are very pleased to give me admission and that if I am very interested I can opt to take the IBEL!
so pleased with this :)


Congratulation!!! BTW what is IBEL?


It is International Business and economic law. It is a JD/ LLM not open to all students.

<blockquote><blockquote>Don't know if anyone cares to know but- I received my admission letter yesterday. The dean has put in a hand written note saying they are very pleased to give me admission and that if I am very interested I can opt to take the IBEL!
so pleased with this :) </blockquote>

Congratulation!!! BTW what is IBEL?</blockquote>

It is International Business and economic law. It is a JD/ LLM not open to all students.
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zalaw

Has anyone got a response today? I applied for the LLM in IBEL on 1/1/13 and went complete 1/7/13. Foreign graduate from the UK.

Has anyone got a response today? I applied for the LLM in IBEL on 1/1/13 and went complete 1/7/13. Foreign graduate from the UK.
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garfiari

Has anyone got a response today? I applied for the LLM in IBEL on 1/1/13 and went complete 1/7/13. Foreign graduate from the UK.


I got a response today I am on wait list, so sad to heard that I hope get in another school,

Regards

<blockquote>Has anyone got a response today? I applied for the LLM in IBEL on 1/1/13 and went complete 1/7/13. Foreign graduate from the UK. </blockquote>

I got a response today I am on wait list, so sad to heard that I hope get in another school,

Regards
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I am waitlisted also. Does anyone know how the waitlist works or when is the earliest you may hear if you get in???

I am waitlisted also. Does anyone know how the waitlist works or when is the earliest you may hear if you get in???
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