Advice needed. Got admitted last week to Stanford SPILS I hesitate with Columbia LLM (cos' in NY where I have been living for 1.5y).
I am a litigator. What 's best for me in your opinion?
For a litigator:Stanford SPILS or Columbia?
Posted Apr 18, 2006 10:21
I am a litigator. What 's best for me in your opinion?
Posted Apr 18, 2006 10:31
You've already lived in NYC so why not try San Fran? it's a really fun place and the weather is terrific. You can't go wrong with Stanford, even if you plan to come back to NY.
Posted Apr 18, 2006 10:41
I am not at all sure about this, but does Stanford SPILS have a similar problem that Yale LL.M. program has? Is it considered a rather "academic" program? You have strong background in litigation so I don't think it will be much of a problem for you, however. I believe both would be excellent programs for you so perhaps you should take into account what Coco said: which would be nicer place for you to live? It's a tough call in any event.
Posted Apr 18, 2006 15:16
For me it is like comparing apples and oranges...Spils focus on a 40/50 page paper that you must write to complete the program. You will learn methodology, how to write an academic paper, present a paper, etc. Of course you can take some regular courses but you will not be able to take more than 2 in each semester. On the other hand, Columbia will allow you to take more courses. I am not saying that Columbia is a better choice but it is better that you know that. In terms of placement after the LLM, I understand that Spils students didn''t have any problem in the past. I am going to Stanford and I hope to meet you there. It is a very exclusive/unique school and I am sure you will not regret.
Posted Apr 18, 2006 20:22
"In terms of placement after the LLM, I understand that Spils students didn''t have any problem in the past."
Paul,
Would u have data on placements after LLM for SPILS program? i.e. what % of SPILS students got job offers? This would help some of us trying to make a decision. Thanks a lot.
Paul,
Would u have data on placements after LLM for SPILS program? i.e. what % of SPILS students got job offers? This would help some of us trying to make a decision. Thanks a lot.
Posted Apr 19, 2006 02:44
Black, I am also a litigator and I would certainly choose Stanford SPILS. Keep in mind that Stanford is far more selective than Columbia and you should be very proud of your admission there. I belive that SPILS is a perfect complement for a litigation lawyers like us. Stanford is even more respected than Columbia, you will live in California and get a job easily. Congratulations again!!
Best regards,
Best regards,
Posted Apr 19, 2006 10:12
Thanks to all for your replies and advice. Very tough choice to make I tell you.
Posted Apr 19, 2006 21:57
As I told Black in a PM, I heard that last year many SPILS students reveived offers from white shoe firms, Californian law firms, World Bank, etc. This should not be a problem...
Posted Apr 20, 2006 11:15
Go to Standford, 100% sure.
Posted Apr 20, 2006 21:02
hey all
many people tell me that it s easier to find a job in NY when you graduate from Columbia LLM than from Stanford SPILS? I cannot get it since Stanford is higher in law school rankings and being good at academics does not mean you 're bad at writing a brief or contract, no? Does anyone know about career prospects for Stanford SPILS and their participation to career forums with the other top law schools in NY around January I believe? Thanks for your help. Few days left to decide.
many people tell me that it s easier to find a job in NY when you graduate from Columbia LLM than from Stanford SPILS? I cannot get it since Stanford is higher in law school rankings and being good at academics does not mean you 're bad at writing a brief or contract, no? Does anyone know about career prospects for Stanford SPILS and their participation to career forums with the other top law schools in NY around January I believe? Thanks for your help. Few days left to decide.
Posted Apr 21, 2006 09:26
I think Stanford SPILS is more academic while Columbia's program is more practical. Students enrolling in Stanford SPILS are expected to teach law at their home countries in general. I think you are right, it is easier to land a job in NYC after graduation than in any other place in the US. Though Standford has an extremely good name, you need to take your career aupiration into account. I suggest you read in detail the courses offered by these two schools and thinak about what is more suitable for you. You won't go wrong either way. Stanford is TOP 3 in almost every area while Columbia is prestigious and among Ivy leagues.
Posted Apr 21, 2006 09:30
Dude, to turn down Stanford for Columbia is just a huge mistake. You will be probably be first student to do that...don't worry, jobs will come.
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