Shortly after winning this year's Jessup International Law Moot Court as No. 1 out of 556 teams worldwide Columbia has trumped again:
Columbia was acclaimed as the Best Overall Team at the 13th Annual Willem C. Vis International Commercial Arbitration Moot.
Competing for six days in Vienna among 156 teams and nearly 1000 students from around the world, Columbia advanced to semifinals of the team oral arguments and earned awards in every category:
- 1st place for Claimant's Memorandum
- Honorable Mention for Respondent's Memorandum (one of 10 honorable mentions out of 156 entries)
- 3rd place team in the oral argument tournament
- Individual Honorable Mentions for "Outstanding Oral Advocacy" for 2 Columbia Law School students.
As a result of these achievements Columbia was acclaimed as the Best Overall Team!
Even if these achievements are first of all the achievements of individual J.D. students it is probably not a pure fortunate coincidence that Columbia is this year No. 1 in the International Law Moot court AND No. 1 in the Arbitration Moot Court competing with 155 or 555 other teams worldwide respectively.
Columbia No. 1 Again
Posted Apr 18, 2006 20:01
Columbia was acclaimed as the Best Overall Team at the 13th Annual Willem C. Vis International Commercial Arbitration Moot.
Competing for six days in Vienna among 156 teams and nearly 1000 students from around the world, Columbia advanced to semifinals of the team oral arguments and earned awards in every category:
- 1st place for Claimant's Memorandum
- Honorable Mention for Respondent's Memorandum (one of 10 honorable mentions out of 156 entries)
- 3rd place team in the oral argument tournament
- Individual Honorable Mentions for "Outstanding Oral Advocacy" for 2 Columbia Law School students.
As a result of these achievements Columbia was acclaimed as the Best Overall Team!
Even if these achievements are first of all the achievements of individual J.D. students it is probably not a pure fortunate coincidence that Columbia is this year No. 1 in the International Law Moot court AND No. 1 in the Arbitration Moot Court competing with 155 or 555 other teams worldwide respectively.
Posted Apr 18, 2006 21:05
I'm starting to agree with those posters who have suggested that Columbia is starting to get desperate due to its abysmal admissions process, and consequently, is asking students to advertise the school. I have no doubt that Columbia is a great school with lots of talented students, but isn't it weird we don't see other schools being bragged on this board.
Posted Apr 18, 2006 21:11
Perhaps students from other schools don't have the same school spirit? Of more relevance to this website, I wanted to state that members of the two teams included LLMs.
Posted Apr 18, 2006 21:14
Is Marietta a member of the Columbia Moot Court Team ?
Posted Apr 18, 2006 21:26
Come on, Columbia is great. :-)
Fair enough, Marietta isn't really helpful. But then, you are not attending courses held by Marietta......
Btw, there are quite a few LLMs who think that this person is insufferable - but who cares. She is not important at all for your year at CLS.
Fair enough, Marietta isn't really helpful. But then, you are not attending courses held by Marietta......
Btw, there are quite a few LLMs who think that this person is insufferable - but who cares. She is not important at all for your year at CLS.
Posted Apr 19, 2006 02:29
For the record, I sat as arbitrator at this year's Vis Moot in Vienna and there was no such acclamation of Columbia as the best overall team. The Columbia team did well, but it did not win the competition -- that honour went to the team from London's Queen Mary -- and it certainly was not being hailed by all and sundry as the best team overall. Take that for what it's worth.
Peace,
Cynic1995
Peace,
Cynic1995
Posted Apr 19, 2006 06:04
Hahaha...so now they are marketing "other schools" achievements. I must agree that some Columbia LLMs in this forum are desperate to show that Columbia is a good school (maybe b/c the new ranking puts Columbia and NYU tied in 4, way below the top 3). You know, all the top tier schools have great achievements every year (just go to the schools webpage) but you dont see students from Yale, Harvard or Stanford spending their time to post it here. Actually, if all current students do the same, this forum is going to be terribly boringPeace and be happy!
Posted Apr 19, 2006 12:28
I was at the VIS MOOT too and I agree with Cynic1995 : Columbia was not acclaimed as the best team. In fact, the first prize went to Queen Mary University. The second best team was Stetson University. Columbia was NOT n°1 and was NOT hailed as the best team. Columbia did not even make it to the finals !
As for best oralist, the first prize went to a speaker from Osgoode Law School. Here also, Columbia was NOT n°1.
As for the LLM members in the Columbia team at the VIS moot, I understand they were former J.D.s from other law schools.
As for best oralist, the first prize went to a speaker from Osgoode Law School. Here also, Columbia was NOT n°1.
As for the LLM members in the Columbia team at the VIS moot, I understand they were former J.D.s from other law schools.
Posted Apr 19, 2006 12:47
BREAKING NEWS !!!!
An LL.M. student of Columbia Law School just broke the 100m sprint world record and ran below the mythic threshold of 9". Simultaneously, he also saved a dozen of toddlers involved in a bus accident. He has been awarded the Purple Heart AND the Silver Star (which is the first time in US history).
It is not the first exceptionnal achievement for the 8 year old Hrwasjsjkkjnhsjaozisknshna Parlsjskljljkowmzpesnssky (with a "y", pronounces as it spells) as he became last year, and in a total secrecy, the first Columbia student to travel in space.
An LL.M. student of Columbia Law School just broke the 100m sprint world record and ran below the mythic threshold of 9". Simultaneously, he also saved a dozen of toddlers involved in a bus accident. He has been awarded the Purple Heart AND the Silver Star (which is the first time in US history).
It is not the first exceptionnal achievement for the 8 year old Hrwasjsjkkjnhsjaozisknshna Parlsjskljljkowmzpesnssky (with a "y", pronounces as it spells) as he became last year, and in a total secrecy, the first Columbia student to travel in space.
Posted Apr 19, 2006 13:06
O man this is so hilarious!!! Zing Saloman, a definite Zing. TFH HAS BEEN BURNED. I really dont think the admissions committee (as incompetant as they are) have anything to do with this idiot. He does however seem to spark some life into some very talented zingers on here. Bravo.
Here is a conspiracy theory for you. I'll bet its the Harvard admissions committee in collusion with Yale. They put up annoying posts about Columbia that they know will start a backlash and hey presto, people hate Columbia ..... Think about that one :)
Here is a conspiracy theory for you. I'll bet its the Harvard admissions committee in collusion with Yale. They put up annoying posts about Columbia that they know will start a backlash and hey presto, people hate Columbia ..... Think about that one :)
Posted Apr 19, 2006 13:13
O man this is so hilarious!!! Zing Saloman, a definite Zing. TFH HAS BEEN BURNED. I really dont think the admissions committee (as incompetant as they are) have anything to do with this idiot. He does however seem to spark some life into some very talented zingers on here. Bravo.
Here is a conspiracy theory for you. I'll bet its the Harvard admissions committee in collusion with Yale. They put up annoying posts about Columbia that they know will start a backlash and hey presto, people hate Columbia ..... Think about that one :)
Irishguy, I gotta admit it´s an interesting theory... After Harvard´s second e-mail affair, all admissions became a sort of X-files...
Here is a conspiracy theory for you. I'll bet its the Harvard admissions committee in collusion with Yale. They put up annoying posts about Columbia that they know will start a backlash and hey presto, people hate Columbia ..... Think about that one :)</blockquote>
Irishguy, I gotta admit it´s an interesting theory... After Harvard´s second e-mail affair, all admissions became a sort of X-files...
Posted Apr 19, 2006 13:56
Hi all,
Just in case anyone still has a doubt, let me assure you that Cynic1995 and Terrie are correct as regards Columbia's position at Vis Moot. I myself was a participant this year and have just returned from Vienna.
Just in case anyone still has a doubt, let me assure you that Cynic1995 and Terrie are correct as regards Columbia's position at Vis Moot. I myself was a participant this year and have just returned from Vienna.
Posted Apr 19, 2006 14:08
Hi again,
Let me also say please don't read too much into the Vis Moot results. The process goes something like this - 154 teams moot for 4 days continously ( twice as Claimant and Respondent) after which the top 32 teams with the highest totals advance to the next round. Henceforth, the competition is held on a knock out basis and many a times a lot of good teams are unable to make it to the end for one reason or the other. So the real credit is deserved by all those 32 teams who make it to the Finals after a 4 stage assessment process as against a single assessment made in the knock outs. That is why, perhaps, they are deemed Finalists. What I'm trying to say is that don't assess teams so much by who stood 1st or 2nd or 10th. All the 32 are perhaps up there, ofcourse with some variations, here or there. Hope this helps.
Let me also say please don't read too much into the Vis Moot results. The process goes something like this - 154 teams moot for 4 days continously ( twice as Claimant and Respondent) after which the top 32 teams with the highest totals advance to the next round. Henceforth, the competition is held on a knock out basis and many a times a lot of good teams are unable to make it to the end for one reason or the other. So the real credit is deserved by all those 32 teams who make it to the Finals after a 4 stage assessment process as against a single assessment made in the knock outs. That is why, perhaps, they are deemed Finalists. What I'm trying to say is that don't assess teams so much by who stood 1st or 2nd or 10th. All the 32 are perhaps up there, ofcourse with some variations, here or there. Hope this helps.
Posted Apr 19, 2006 15:56
O man this is so hilarious!!! Zing Saloman, a definite Zing. TFH HAS BEEN BURNED. I really dont think the admissions committee (as incompetant as they are) have anything to do with this idiot. He does however seem to spark some life into some very talented zingers on here. Bravo.
Here is a conspiracy theory for you. I'll bet its the Harvard admissions committee in collusion with Yale. They put up annoying posts about Columbia that they know will start a backlash and hey presto, people hate Columbia ..... Think about that one :)
Hey, don't you work for "another agency"... ? Your theory is just perfect, flawless. We've got something big here.... I think that, after the Watergate and the JFK assassination, it's another conspiracy that will shake USA.
PS : it's Salomon, not Saloman (what do you think ? that I am Jewish... ?)
PPS : What does Zing mean ? (Did you mean King, which, together with Salomon, would make more sense...?)
Here is a conspiracy theory for you. I'll bet its the Harvard admissions committee in collusion with Yale. They put up annoying posts about Columbia that they know will start a backlash and hey presto, people hate Columbia ..... Think about that one :)</blockquote>
Hey, don't you work for "another agency"... ? Your theory is just perfect, flawless. We've got something big here.... I think that, after the Watergate and the JFK assassination, it's another conspiracy that will shake USA.
PS : it's Salomon, not Saloman (what do you think ? that I am Jewish... ?)
PPS : What does Zing mean ? (Did you mean King, which, together with Salomon, would make more sense...?)
Posted Apr 20, 2006 11:13
Zing is a slang word (probably confined to Ireland, home to all things odd). Means you made a clever funny/bitchy comment that should be celebrated by the saying of Zing. This conspiracy stuff is getting deep .... hmmmm ... lets see if we cant add to it. Maybe I really am an agent sent to fix the backlash of a failed admissions policy by trying to throw people off track. MAYBE, I'm part of a wide scale clean up and smear operation run by Fuhrer La Fargue. My mission, LETS BLAME HARVARD for EVERYTHING that went wrong here. People will believe, because they want them to be the enemy after the test e-mails. Thus will Columbia be saved from our incompetence.
MAYBE I was sent on here in the promise of a place on the next space mission. That eight year old just wont quit.
OR maybe Harvard now know, that you know, that they were the ones originally responsible for the whole thing and are trying to confuse people to make them forget ..... thats right .... you will FORGET ALL YOU HAVE READ HERE ..... this is the Voice of Harvard .....
It really all boils down to the neverending battle between the schools for our souls, which they convert to a handy monetary figure and extract with the greatest amount of pain they can inflict. I dont think I should drink coke before I come on here anymore ......
MAYBE I was sent on here in the promise of a place on the next space mission. That eight year old just wont quit.
OR maybe Harvard now know, that you know, that they were the ones originally responsible for the whole thing and are trying to confuse people to make them forget ..... thats right .... you will FORGET ALL YOU HAVE READ HERE ..... this is the Voice of Harvard .....
It really all boils down to the neverending battle between the schools for our souls, which they convert to a handy monetary figure and extract with the greatest amount of pain they can inflict. I dont think I should drink coke before I come on here anymore ......
Posted Apr 20, 2006 11:37
Zing is a slang word (probably confined to Ireland, home to all things odd). Means you made a clever funny/bitchy comment that should be celebrated by the saying of Zing. This conspiracy stuff is getting deep .... hmmmm ... lets see if we cant add to it. Maybe I really am an agent sent to fix the backlash of a failed admissions policy by trying to throw people off track. MAYBE, I'm part of a wide scale clean up and smear operation run by Fuhrer La Fargue. My mission, LETS BLAME HARVARD for EVERYTHING that went wrong here. People will believe, because they want them to be the enemy after the test e-mails. Thus will Columbia be saved from our incompetence.
MAYBE I was sent on here in the promise of a place on the next space mission. That eight year old just wont quit.
OR maybe Harvard now know, that you know, that they were the ones originally responsible for the whole thing and are trying to confuse people to make them forget ..... thats right .... you will FORGET ALL YOU HAVE READ HERE ..... this is the Voice of Harvard .....
It really all boils down to the neverending battle between the schools for our souls, which they convert to a handy monetary figure and extract with the greatest amount of pain they can inflict. I dont think I should drink coke before I come on here anymore ......
Zing, Zing, Zing !!!
Are you sure you're DRINKING coke ?
PS : Am still waiting for Columbia's decision. Marietta, if you swing by this discussion board once in a while, please stop ploting against Harvard and be so kind to send me my admission email.
MAYBE I was sent on here in the promise of a place on the next space mission. That eight year old just wont quit.
OR maybe Harvard now know, that you know, that they were the ones originally responsible for the whole thing and are trying to confuse people to make them forget ..... thats right .... you will FORGET ALL YOU HAVE READ HERE ..... this is the Voice of Harvard .....
It really all boils down to the neverending battle between the schools for our souls, which they convert to a handy monetary figure and extract with the greatest amount of pain they can inflict. I dont think I should drink coke before I come on here anymore ......</blockquote>
Zing, Zing, Zing !!!
Are you sure you're DRINKING coke ?
PS : Am still waiting for Columbia's decision. Marietta, if you swing by this discussion board once in a while, please stop ploting against Harvard and be so kind to send me my admission email.
Posted Apr 20, 2006 22:04
Dear all,
Let me moderate this a little bit. As you all know, I am an LLM at Columbia this year. I know TFH, and I know why his message has the content that he posted. Internally in the Law School, an email with misleading content was sent, and he relied on that email.
Below, you will find the content of an email sent by the Administration of Columbia Law School to all students, describing what Columbia's team REALLY achieved:
Columbia's team received the most honors of any team competing at the 13th Annual Willem C. Vis International Commercial Arbitration Moot.
Competing for six days in Vienna among 156 teams and nearly 1000 students from around the world, Columbia advanced to semifinals of the team oral arguments and earned awards in every category:
- 3rd place team in the oral argument tournament
- 1st place for Claimant's Memorandum
- Honorable Mention for Respondent's Memorandum (one of 10 honorable mentions out of 156 entries)
- Individual Honorable Mentions for "Outstanding Oral Advocacy" for: Lorraine de Germiny & Christina Cathey Schutz.
The Vis International Arbitration Moot is the largest and most prestigious International Private Law mooting competition in the world. It is organized by the Institute of International Commercial Law at Pace University and hosted every year by the University of Vienna Faculty of Law. In addition, the Moot is sponsored by many of the world's foremost arbitration and commercial institutions. Furthermore, it is attended every year by many of the world's most renowned arbitration practitioners and scholars, who arbitrate at competition rounds and speak at the variety of arbitration-related conferences and symposia that are organized in Vienna to coincide with the Moot.
Furthermore, in order to give you a sense of some more Columbia achievements, here is another one:
Columbia's Jessup International Law Moot Court Team has won both the national and international competition in the final rounds of arguments held this weekend in Washington, D.C.
The Jessup Moot is an international competition sponsored by the International Law Students Association (in conjunction with the American Society of International Law). This year, 556 teams competed worldwide from
89 countries, of which 104 teams from 81 countries (including 13 teams from the United States) advanced to compete in Washington. Columbia's team had previously won the Atlantic regional round, at which Alka Pradhan was the second-ranked oralist and Corey Whiting was the fourth-ranked oralist. In Washington, our team prevailed over the other U.S. competitors and went into the semifinals ranked 4th out of 104. They then won the semifinal round and ultimately the suspenseful final round in a packed large courtroom at the U.S. Courthouse.
Vincent Levy and Tracy Appleton argued the final round against the Venezuela team, before a bench consisting of Judge Bruno Simma (of the International Court of Justice), Sir Michael Wood (former Legal Advisor to the U.K. Foreign Office), and Nicola Bonucci (Director of Legal Affairs at the OECD). At the conclusion of the argument, the judges commended the Columbia team both for their written briefs (known as memorials in accordance with international practice) and for their oral advocacy. Vincent Levy was honored as best oralist in the final round.
The 2006 Columbia team is the first U.S. team to win the international Jessup competition since 1990, and the first from Columbia to become world champions since 1963 and 1965. (Columbia most recently won the national championship in 2003.)
I hope this settles the matter. The wording of THF's email was of course unfortunate, but I think that the information that I just quoted make very clear what really was achieved.
Now, I was not intending to do a PR stunt here, but this discussion became rather immature after the first replies, so I decided to intervene.
Anyways, I hope you all have fun waiting for your replies, or choosing between the Law Schools you were admitted to. Whatever choice you will make, it will be the right one!
DocJ
Let me moderate this a little bit. As you all know, I am an LLM at Columbia this year. I know TFH, and I know why his message has the content that he posted. Internally in the Law School, an email with misleading content was sent, and he relied on that email.
Below, you will find the content of an email sent by the Administration of Columbia Law School to all students, describing what Columbia's team REALLY achieved:
<blockquote>
Columbia's team received the most honors of any team competing at the 13th Annual Willem C. Vis International Commercial Arbitration Moot.
Competing for six days in Vienna among 156 teams and nearly 1000 students from around the world, Columbia advanced to semifinals of the team oral arguments and earned awards in every category:
- 3rd place team in the oral argument tournament
- 1st place for Claimant's Memorandum
- Honorable Mention for Respondent's Memorandum (one of 10 honorable mentions out of 156 entries)
- Individual Honorable Mentions for "Outstanding Oral Advocacy" for: Lorraine de Germiny & Christina Cathey Schutz.
The Vis International Arbitration Moot is the largest and most prestigious International Private Law mooting competition in the world. It is organized by the Institute of International Commercial Law at Pace University and hosted every year by the University of Vienna Faculty of Law. In addition, the Moot is sponsored by many of the world's foremost arbitration and commercial institutions. Furthermore, it is attended every year by many of the world's most renowned arbitration practitioners and scholars, who arbitrate at competition rounds and speak at the variety of arbitration-related conferences and symposia that are organized in Vienna to coincide with the Moot.
</blockquote>
Furthermore, in order to give you a sense of some more Columbia achievements, here is another one:
<blockquote>
Columbia's Jessup International Law Moot Court Team has won both the national and international competition in the final rounds of arguments held this weekend in Washington, D.C.
The Jessup Moot is an international competition sponsored by the International Law Students Association (in conjunction with the American Society of International Law). This year, 556 teams competed worldwide from
89 countries, of which 104 teams from 81 countries (including 13 teams from the United States) advanced to compete in Washington. Columbia's team had previously won the Atlantic regional round, at which Alka Pradhan was the second-ranked oralist and Corey Whiting was the fourth-ranked oralist. In Washington, our team prevailed over the other U.S. competitors and went into the semifinals ranked 4th out of 104. They then won the semifinal round and ultimately the suspenseful final round in a packed large courtroom at the U.S. Courthouse.
Vincent Levy and Tracy Appleton argued the final round against the Venezuela team, before a bench consisting of Judge Bruno Simma (of the International Court of Justice), Sir Michael Wood (former Legal Advisor to the U.K. Foreign Office), and Nicola Bonucci (Director of Legal Affairs at the OECD). At the conclusion of the argument, the judges commended the Columbia team both for their written briefs (known as memorials in accordance with international practice) and for their oral advocacy. Vincent Levy was honored as best oralist in the final round.
The 2006 Columbia team is the first U.S. team to win the international Jessup competition since 1990, and the first from Columbia to become world champions since 1963 and 1965. (Columbia most recently won the national championship in 2003.)
</blockquote>
I hope this settles the matter. The wording of THF's email was of course unfortunate, but I think that the information that I just quoted make very clear what really was achieved.
Now, I was not intending to do a PR stunt here, but this discussion became rather immature after the first replies, so I decided to intervene.
Anyways, I hope you all have fun waiting for your replies, or choosing between the Law Schools you were admitted to. Whatever choice you will make, it will be the right one!
DocJ
Posted Apr 20, 2006 23:24
I wouldn't call it fun for most on this board. Do you think people enjoy waiting for the inept admissions officers to make their decisions this late in the season? It's disgraceful... and it tarnishes their reputation. $48k tuition and they can't get give us the slightest bit of consideration.
Posted Apr 25, 2006 04:55
Obviously people on this forum lack some basic sense of humor... I know that you are stressed right now because of all these admission letters that just don't want to land in your mailbox. But guess what: in 1 month you will laugh about all that!
DocJ
DocJ
Posted Apr 25, 2006 10:31
Obviously people on this forum lack some basic sense of humor... I know that you are stressed right now because of all these admission letters that just don't want to land in your mailbox. But guess what: in 1 month you will laugh about all that!
DocJ
1 month ?! I laughed 13 seconds after I received my email. I agree with you Doc, people lack some sense of humor here (except for a happy few).
DocJ</blockquote>
1 month ?! I laughed 13 seconds after I received my email. I agree with you Doc, people lack some sense of humor here (except for a happy few).
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