yes @tryingmybest! i think the conditions are different for everyone so just wait till you receive yours
Oxford 2023-2024 BCL/MSCs/MJUR/MPHIL/MLF Applicants
Posted Mar 18, 2023 12:18
Posted Mar 18, 2023 12:21
(BCL cand). Did everyone get the same email re: "we will shortly be sending you a Certificate of Offer which will detail the conditions which you will need to meet to become a student of the University."
Any idea on the conditions will I need to meet as I have already graduated? Apologies if this has already been addressed.
Also got this wording and graduated in 2019 - I think someone said it on a previous page but it seems to just be a financial declaration and something about criminal convictions.
Posted Mar 18, 2023 12:47
They usually have some delays in processing the offers. The admin people responsible for handling offers are also responsible for a number of other things, such as running courses, liaising with external guests etc., so it is normal that there are delays (even after the 8-week deadline)
Hi, I think more offers will come (plus the waiting list)
That’s great to hear, what makes you say that?
thanks Miki, just out of curiosity do you think not getting an offer today means it’s more likely than not to be a rejection come Monday? I thought offers may come over a couple of days. But now not so sure.
Posted Mar 18, 2023 12:59
For those of you sad with the lack of an offer, don’t be.
I just got evidence that their admissions isn’t meritocratic at all, and is absolutely different from what they claim it to be. They are a bunch of lying b*stards. Just some people using the name of a very old and reputable institution to basically select whoever they want based on some b*llshit criteria, while lying to the whole world saying they are “selective” and whatnot.
Oxford is just like any other law school. I’m just deeply mad for having applied there. I thought they were different but in the end that was just me being naïve.
After all, lawyers lying shouldn’t surprise anyone, right? Shame on me for believing otherwise.
Don't be so mad, my friend. What evidence makes you that angry?
Someone else from the same background who CLEARLY has a MUCH weaker academic record getting an offer.
It’s like someone from Yale Law being rejected in favor of someone who went to George Washington Uni Law. Plus lots of other things. That’s just for starters.
I agree that the process involves some luck (all the candidates that apply are very good and it is normal that even very very good candidates are rejected.) However, the app process is fairly comprehensive and, for example, a lot of weight is given to the piece of academic writing, to the references etc. In relation to Oxford, I would therefore say that looking at the grades (or the uni) alone is never a good indicator of someone getting in or not (as long as the applicant meets the minimum criteria).
Posted Mar 18, 2023 13:05
They usually have some delays in processing the offers. The admin people responsible for handling offers are also responsible for a number of other things, such as running courses, liaising with external guests etc., so it is normal that there are delays (even after the 8-week deadline)Hi, I think more offers will come (plus the waiting list)
That’s great to hear, what makes you say that?
im just so glad to hear there’s hope that more offers will come on Monday!
Posted Mar 18, 2023 13:18
No need for coping, to be brutally honest. Offers come in at the same day, even the same moment. Monday will be rejections only. Maybe some waitlists (I’m not even sure the MJur has a waiting list), but waitlists are simply delayed rejections anyway.
Posted Mar 18, 2023 13:48
No need for coping, to be brutally honest. Offers come in at the same day, even the same moment. Monday will be rejections only. Maybe some waitlists (I’m not even sure the MJur has a waiting list), but waitlists are simply delayed rejections anyway.
I agree. When I was rejected by Cambridge, the sooner I accepted the reality, the better for healing process and moving on. I may sound harsh, but I wish everything will go well for everyone.
Posted Mar 18, 2023 13:59
I should have known it would be a rejection.. they never have any French people in the programme..
Posted Mar 18, 2023 14:10
I hope all those with rejections like me would not lose hope if they do want to try again for Oxbridge later on. We tried thats a big thing too.
Posted Mar 18, 2023 14:42
I hope all those with rejections like me would not lose hope if they do want to try again for Oxbridge later on. We tried thats a big thing too.
Very much agree with this sentiment! I was rejected from both Oxford and Cambridge last year and have received offers for both BCL and LLM this year. In fact, the year away from academia had probably made me want to do the programmes even more and made me focus on exactly why I want to pursue further studies. Keep the faith!
Posted Mar 18, 2023 14:48
Also disheartened by the rejection. I strongly believe that the BCL process is one based upon meritocracy however, unlike other programmes taking into account some more controversial criteria. I just thought that I had a good chance with a Triple First from Cambridge, an essay which obtained a Starred First and references from world-renowned professors. Well, congratulations to those who got in and do enjoy your time in this marvellous place!
Posted Mar 18, 2023 14:56
I'm on the same boat as BODesq apparently. I also was rejected from both last year and got both offers this year, so a turnaround is definitely possible!Very much agree with this sentiment! I was rejected from both Oxford and Cambridge last year and have received offers for both BCL and LLM this year. In fact, the year away from academia had probably made me want to do the programmes even more and made me focus on exactly why I want to pursue further studies. Keep the faith!
I also didn't believe my friends at the time that I'd have a fresh perspective if I just took a gap year. I did. My conclusion was different though — even though I would like to take up either offer, that wish is conditional now. Previously, I was headstrong in getting in, but now I think I've begun to appreciate other opportunities that I may take over these two offers.
Regardless of your conclusions however, I do think a gap year does definitely change your perspective — be it a stronger affirmation or something else entirely different.
[Edited by Selective Memory on Mar 18, 2023]
Posted Mar 18, 2023 15:06
Am I the only one that still has hope? Last year, offers were spread across two days. Why can't it be this year?
Posted Mar 18, 2023 15:40
Congratulations! Did you ask the same references as last year or new ones? I want to reapply either next year or in two years and I feel like I had the best references possible and don’t know who else I could have asked.
I'm on the same boat as BODesq apparently. I also was rejected from both last year and got both offers this year, so a turnaround is definitely possible!Very much agree with this sentiment! I was rejected from both Oxford and Cambridge last year and have received offers for both BCL and LLM this year. In fact, the year away from academia had probably made me want to do the programmes even more and made me focus on exactly why I want to pursue further studies. Keep the faith!
I also didn't believe my friends at the time that I'd have a fresh perspective if I just took a gap year. I did. My conclusion was different though — even though I would like to take up either offer, that wish is conditional now. Previously, I was headstrong in getting in, but now I think I've begun to appreciate other opportunities that I may take over these two offers.
Regardless of your conclusions however, I do think a gap year does definitely change your perspective — be it a stronger affirmation or something else entirely different.
Posted Mar 18, 2023 15:42
Offers coming on the same day is not always the case, past few years there’s been a rush of offers on Thursday and then some more on a Friday. The fact that offers came out on a Friday might be indicative that there are still a few more to come on Monday - as Miki said there are many other factors to consider and delays can be expected.
any one reading the post below, it’s not over until it is - I’ve accepted that a rejection may be coming that doesn’t mean that there will be no offers on Monday, there might be! Also others have mentioned receiving offers a day or two later despite being dated earlier, I’d say keep calm until you see an email and then start planning for whatever it may be.
No need for coping, to be brutally honest. Offers come in at the same day, even the same moment. Monday will be rejections only. Maybe some waitlists (I’m not even sure the MJur has a waiting list), but waitlists are simply delayed rejections anyway.
Posted Mar 18, 2023 15:47
Offers coming on the same day is not always the case, past few years there’s been a rush of offers on Thursday and then some more on a Friday. The fact that offers came out on a Friday might be indicative that there are still a few more to come on Monday - as Miki said there are many other factors to consider and delays can be expected.
any one reading the post below, it’s not over until it is - I’ve accepted that a rejection may be coming that doesn’t mean that there will be no offers on Monday, there might be! Also others have mentioned receiving offers a day or two later despite being dated earlier, I’d say keep calm until you see an email and then start planning for whatever it may be.
No need for coping, to be brutally honest. Offers come in at the same day, even the same moment. Monday will be rejections only. Maybe some waitlists (I’m not even sure the MJur has a waiting list), but waitlists are simply delayed rejections anyway.
I fully agree. I am prepared for the worst, but I don't think accepting rejection is useful.
Posted Mar 18, 2023 15:52
Does MJur have waitlists?
Posted Mar 18, 2023 15:54
Am I the only one that still has hope? Last year, offers were spread across two days. Why can't it be this year?
I’ll wait till Monday before loosing hope :) at the same time I feel like even if I get an offer, I might accept a different one since I don’t very much enjoy how they’re handling it. I want to be in an environment that appreciates students and does not torture them :D
Posted Mar 18, 2023 15:55
Am I the only one that still has hope? Last year, offers were spread across two days. Why can't it be this year?
I’ll wait till Monday before loosing hope :) at the same time I feel like even if I get an offer, I might accept a different one since I don’t very much enjoy how they’re handling it. I want to be in an environment that appreciates students and does not torture them :D
I'm glad to hear that you're not expecting the worst! I get what you mean. I did have that thought earlier, but I equally think we should distinguish between the admin of Oxford which may be quite inadequate and its academic standard which is globally exceptional!
Posted Mar 18, 2023 16:05
I asked two professors that I had also asked the previous year and one new professor.
Congratulations! Did you ask the same references as last year or new ones? I want to reapply either next year or in two years and I feel like I had the best references possible and don’t know who else I could have asked.I'm on the same boat as BODesq apparently. I also was rejected from both last year and got both offers this year, so a turnaround is definitely possible!Very much agree with this sentiment! I was rejected from both Oxford and Cambridge last year and have received offers for both BCL and LLM this year. In fact, the year away from academia had probably made me want to do the programmes even more and made me focus on exactly why I want to pursue further studies. Keep the faith!
I also didn't believe my friends at the time that I'd have a fresh perspective if I just took a gap year. I did. My conclusion was different though — even though I would like to take up either offer, that wish is conditional now. Previously, I was headstrong in getting in, but now I think I've begun to appreciate other opportunities that I may take over these two offers.
Regardless of your conclusions however, I do think a gap year does definitely change your perspective — be it a stronger affirmation or something else entirely different.
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