KCL or UCL


banker3

Hi,

I know this discussion has been going on forever but I really don't know which to choose for an LLM in finance and banking. Both have interesting courses and professors in this field....

Thanks!

Hi,

I know this discussion has been going on forever but I really don't know which to choose for an LLM in finance and banking. Both have interesting courses and professors in this field....

Thanks!
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Santa

King's College for its imo bigger reputation.

King's College for its imo bigger reputation.
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banker3

well it's being ranked ahead of UCL in the rankings...though I prefer to base my desicion on the courses and prof...

well it's being ranked ahead of UCL in the rankings...though I prefer to base my desicion on the courses and prof...
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Banker

Rankings change every year. UCL ranked 2. after Cambridge recently. I would prefer UCL since I would say it is slighltly better in this field. But both schools are very good and it depends more on personal feelings. I might be baised cos I am studying at UCL.....

Rankings change every year. UCL ranked 2. after Cambridge recently. I would prefer UCL since I would say it is slighltly better in this field. But both schools are very good and it depends more on personal feelings. I might be baised cos I am studying at UCL.....
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banker3

Hi Banker,

Which ranking do you mean?

thx

Hi Banker,

Which ranking do you mean?

thx
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Santa

The thing is, rankings don't matter that much.

Even if Oxford would be ranked fifth, it would still have greater value to get your degree in Oxford than in UCL, because everybody knows Oxford and is in awe for those who studied there.

King's College, at least in Belgium, is better known and considered as very good, whereas UCL is less known. Imo it is thus better to do your degree in King's.

This might ofcourse differ from country to country :)

The thing is, rankings don't matter that much.

Even if Oxford would be ranked fifth, it would still have greater value to get your degree in Oxford than in UCL, because everybody knows Oxford and is in awe for those who studied there.

King's College, at least in Belgium, is better known and considered as very good, whereas UCL is less known. Imo it is thus better to do your degree in King's.

This might ofcourse differ from country to country :)
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Banker

I fully agree with the first point regarding rankings. But I do not agree with the second one. I would never choose university according to the fact if it is know or not in my country. Moreover, this is extremely difficult to find out since it depends on opinion of people you ask and also may change as well as rankings. I personally recommend to decide on basis of courses and teachers. KCL, UCL and LSE are in real life rated on the same level and are regarded as very good law schools. All have great and bad teachers. Finally, let us not overestimate impact of LLM on one´s career. It is ust something little extra on your CV - employers are interested much more in your work experience. But it is great experience - no doubts about it.

I fully agree with the first point regarding rankings. But I do not agree with the second one. I would never choose university according to the fact if it is know or not in my country. Moreover, this is extremely difficult to find out since it depends on opinion of people you ask and also may change as well as rankings. I personally recommend to decide on basis of courses and teachers. KCL, UCL and LSE are in real life rated on the same level and are regarded as very good law schools. All have great and bad teachers. Finally, let us not overestimate impact of LLM on one´s career. It is ust something little extra on your CV - employers are interested much more in your work experience. But it is great experience - no doubts about it.
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Santa

Mhmm in my country the biggest law firms really want their lawyers to have done an LL.M. in US or UK.

So in that branch it's rather "important" to do one :)

Mhmm in my country the biggest law firms really want their lawyers to have done an LL.M. in US or UK.

So in that branch it's rather "important" to do one :)
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Banker

Ok. My last point is that KCL has much much nicer student bar than that ugly one of UCL. Beautiful view of Thames.... I am happy not to be studying at Kings since otherwise I would spend most of my time in this beautiful cultural facility....

Ok. My last point is that KCL has much much nicer student bar than that ugly one of UCL. Beautiful view of Thames.... I am happy not to be studying at Kings since otherwise I would spend most of my time in this beautiful cultural facility....
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banker3

I think the bar tipped the scale for me...

I think the bar tipped the scale for me...
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Interalia

Just out of curiousity,

does anyone know the state of the facilities in king's?

In particular:
(i) the library, is it well stocked?
(ii) the classrooms and lecture theaters

Just out of curiousity,

does anyone know the state of the facilities in king's?

In particular:
(i) the library, is it well stocked?
(ii) the classrooms and lecture theaters

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cann

Mhmm in my country the biggest law firms really want their lawyers to have done an LL.M. in US or UK.

So in that branch it's rather "important" to do one :)


Santa, may I ask which country you are from? I have heard different opinions whether the major firms consider a master from a prominent university valuable.

<blockquote>Mhmm in my country the biggest law firms really want their lawyers to have done an LL.M. in US or UK.

So in that branch it's rather "important" to do one :)</blockquote>

Santa, may I ask which country you are from? I have heard different opinions whether the major firms consider a master from a prominent university valuable.
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cann

further, has anyone come across any statistics in regards to applications per place at either KCL or UCL?

further, has anyone come across any statistics in regards to applications per place at either KCL or UCL?
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manub

hey, i hv got a conditional offer from UCL. i hav also got an offer from KCL. my subjct is international commercial law.m confused regarding the college i should go for.. can ny1 temme which one's better 4 dis course?

hey, i hv got a conditional offer from UCL. i hav also got an offer from KCL. my subjct is international commercial law.m confused regarding the college i should go for.. can ny1 temme which one's better 4 dis course?
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cann

when did you sumbitt your application to UCL?

when did you sumbitt your application to UCL?
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manub

i submitted it in mid-october

i submitted it in mid-october
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cann

and when did you receive an offer?

and when did you receive an offer?
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manub

dec end

dec end
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cann

ugh, they are so slow.

ugh, they are so slow.
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i had applied to KCL nd UCL for LLM in International Commercial Law in mid-Oct, 2008 & got conditional offers from the colleges in mid-Nov and Dec end, respectively. I am in the final year of my bachelor's degree and do not know which of the two colleges i shud go for. I havent got a clear idea from ny1 till now. I need an overall aggregate of 60% for KCL & 65% for UCL to get the final offer. my aggregate is more than 65%. After completing my LLM, i wanna come back 2 india & start working. can any1 advise me regarding the college i shud opt among the two? M even interested in knowing which of the two offers better internship programme and a better placement back in india. people who are presently studying in any of these colleges, esp. the ones who are pursuing their LLM in the subject i hav opted are requested to give me an idea. alumnis please respond!


i had applied to KCL nd UCL for LLM in International Commercial Law in mid-Oct, 2008 & got conditional offers from the colleges in mid-Nov and Dec end, respectively. I am in the final year of my bachelor's degree and do not know which of the two colleges i shud go for. I havent got a clear idea from ny1 till now. I need an overall aggregate of 60% for KCL & 65% for UCL to get the final offer. my aggregate is more than 65%. After completing my LLM, i wanna come back 2 india & start working. can any1 advise me regarding the college i shud opt among the two? M even interested in knowing which of the two offers better internship programme and a better placement back in india. people who are presently studying in any of these colleges, esp. the ones who are pursuing their LLM in the subject i hav opted are requested to give me an idea. alumnis please respond!
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