What are the career abilities after LLM at Queen Mary, except returning to your native country? Can a person with LLM work as a paralegal in England? And what about the previous diploma, can it give a person a right to work as as lawyer? I have a Russian Master of Jurisprudence Diploma of Moscow State Institute for International Relations (University) with specialization in international and european law.
Career abilities after LLM at Queen Mary
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What are the career abilities after LLM at Queen Mary, except returning to your native country? Can a person with LLM work as a paralegal in England? And what about the previous diploma, can it give a person a right to work as as lawyer? I have a Russian Master of Jurisprudence Diploma of Moscow State Institute for International Relations (University) with specialization in international and european law.
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Private Equity1, you are so familiar with MGIMO that it even scares me))). Usually only Postsoviet guys know about it.
Porosenok (10 áàëëîâ çà íèê - öåíþ ñàìîèðîíèþ), if you are on a scholarship - go for QM or any other uni you feel you should go. If not - just try to look at your LLM as an investment - will you receive back your 24 grans after QM? If you stick to legal market in Moscow - a 100 % yes. QM has a very solid reputation in the CIS (at least for ICA and ADR).I don't see the point of trying to start practicing in GB - I know that it's not the golden age for the top law firms in Russia, but it's still more attractive for young Russian speaking lawyers. I still beleive that its more important where you got your LLB - that's where the fundamentals are. Getting a LLM (even in the UK and US) does not make you a better lawyer in your jurisdiction (at least if they not are close to the ones mentioned). But this is my personal view on this situation.
Private Equity1, you are so familiar with MGIMO that it even scares me))). Usually only Postsoviet guys know about it.
Porosenok (10 áàëëîâ çà íèê - öåíþ ñàìîèðîíèþ), if you are on a scholarship - go for QM or any other uni you feel you should go. If not - just try to look at your LLM as an investment - will you receive back your 24 grans after QM? If you stick to legal market in Moscow - a 100 % yes. QM has a very solid reputation in the CIS (at least for ICA and ADR).I don't see the point of trying to start practicing in GB - I know that it's not the golden age for the top law firms in Russia, but it's still more attractive for young Russian speaking lawyers. I still beleive that its more important where you got your LLB - that's where the fundamentals are. Getting a LLM (even in the UK and US) does not make you a better lawyer in your jurisdiction (at least if they not are close to the ones mentioned). But this is my personal view on this situation.
Porosenok (10 áàëëîâ çà íèê - öåíþ ñàìîèðîíèþ), if you are on a scholarship - go for QM or any other uni you feel you should go. If not - just try to look at your LLM as an investment - will you receive back your 24 grans after QM? If you stick to legal market in Moscow - a 100 % yes. QM has a very solid reputation in the CIS (at least for ICA and ADR).I don't see the point of trying to start practicing in GB - I know that it's not the golden age for the top law firms in Russia, but it's still more attractive for young Russian speaking lawyers. I still beleive that its more important where you got your LLB - that's where the fundamentals are. Getting a LLM (even in the UK and US) does not make you a better lawyer in your jurisdiction (at least if they not are close to the ones mentioned). But this is my personal view on this situation.
Posted Jul 31, 2009 00:38
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Posted Jul 31, 2009 03:47
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What are the career abilities after LLM at Queen Mary, except returning to your native country? Can a person with LLM work as a paralegal in England? And what about the previous diploma, can it give a person a right to work as as lawyer? I have a Russian Master of Jurisprudence Diploma of Moscow State Institute for International Relations (University) with specialization in international and european law.
I want to provide a slightly different perspective: I know a number of people who have come from Oxbridge or hold other elite degrees, and studied at QM rather than one of the other colleges. The reason they chose QM is because it offered a courses/expertise that met their interests or their companies' interests (eg IP, arbitration, tax), and I strongly believe this should be your leading concern (rather than rankings/status/prestige). Moreover, as you already hold an 'elite' degree, you do not need to concern yourself so much with getting another 'elite' degree. Your other degrees and work experience are more important for employment prospects. However, if you are very concerned about prestige, limit yourself to Oxbridge (LSE, UCL, KCL are so well-known, but to a lesser extent cf. to Oxbridge).
If QM best matches your interests, then go to QM; if you're looking towards a generic/broad degree, eg "international business law", you may prefer to study at a university offering a better brand eg. Oxbridge or LSE, or indeed if your speciality better matches another college (eg KCL for finance, banking, European Law), then QM would be an unwise choice.
Generally, a person with an LLM cannot work as a paralegal. You tend to need at least the vocational qualifications (eg. LPC, BVC, or your country's equivalent), or be a qualified lawyer. The job market is abysmal at the moment, so you must bear in mind that you may finish your LLM (at any university) and there will be no job opportunities, and you'll go back to the position pre-LLM (which realistically most people do). Given your background, you may benefit from contacting Russian law firms with London/UK connections before you come to England (and also take the opportunity to ask them about the appropriate place of study for a Russian lawyer).
(...I didn't attend QM btw).
<blockquote>What are the career abilities after LLM at Queen Mary, except returning to your native country? Can a person with LLM work as a paralegal in England? And what about the previous diploma, can it give a person a right to work as as lawyer? I have a Russian Master of Jurisprudence Diploma of Moscow State Institute for International Relations (University) with specialization in international and european law.</blockquote>
I want to provide a slightly different perspective: I know a number of people who have come from Oxbridge or hold other elite degrees, and studied at QM rather than one of the other colleges. The reason they chose QM is because it offered a courses/expertise that met their interests or their companies' interests (eg IP, arbitration, tax), and I strongly believe this should be your leading concern (rather than rankings/status/prestige). Moreover, as you already hold an 'elite' degree, you do not need to concern yourself so much with getting another 'elite' degree. Your other degrees and work experience are more important for employment prospects. However, if you are very concerned about prestige, limit yourself to Oxbridge (LSE, UCL, KCL are so well-known, but to a lesser extent cf. to Oxbridge).
If QM best matches your interests, then go to QM; if you're looking towards a generic/broad degree, eg "international business law", you may prefer to study at a university offering a better brand eg. Oxbridge or LSE, or indeed if your speciality better matches another college (eg KCL for finance, banking, European Law), then QM would be an unwise choice.
Generally, a person with an LLM cannot work as a paralegal. You tend to need at least the vocational qualifications (eg. LPC, BVC, or your country's equivalent), or be a qualified lawyer. The job market is abysmal at the moment, so you must bear in mind that you may finish your LLM (at any university) and there will be no job opportunities, and you'll go back to the position pre-LLM (which realistically most people do). Given your background, you may benefit from contacting Russian law firms with London/UK connections before you come to England (and also take the opportunity to ask them about the appropriate place of study for a Russian lawyer).
(...I didn't attend QM btw).
I want to provide a slightly different perspective: I know a number of people who have come from Oxbridge or hold other elite degrees, and studied at QM rather than one of the other colleges. The reason they chose QM is because it offered a courses/expertise that met their interests or their companies' interests (eg IP, arbitration, tax), and I strongly believe this should be your leading concern (rather than rankings/status/prestige). Moreover, as you already hold an 'elite' degree, you do not need to concern yourself so much with getting another 'elite' degree. Your other degrees and work experience are more important for employment prospects. However, if you are very concerned about prestige, limit yourself to Oxbridge (LSE, UCL, KCL are so well-known, but to a lesser extent cf. to Oxbridge).
If QM best matches your interests, then go to QM; if you're looking towards a generic/broad degree, eg "international business law", you may prefer to study at a university offering a better brand eg. Oxbridge or LSE, or indeed if your speciality better matches another college (eg KCL for finance, banking, European Law), then QM would be an unwise choice.
Generally, a person with an LLM cannot work as a paralegal. You tend to need at least the vocational qualifications (eg. LPC, BVC, or your country's equivalent), or be a qualified lawyer. The job market is abysmal at the moment, so you must bear in mind that you may finish your LLM (at any university) and there will be no job opportunities, and you'll go back to the position pre-LLM (which realistically most people do). Given your background, you may benefit from contacting Russian law firms with London/UK connections before you come to England (and also take the opportunity to ask them about the appropriate place of study for a Russian lawyer).
(...I didn't attend QM btw).
Posted Jul 31, 2009 08:33
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I completely agree with the previous post.
I chose QM for it's dispute resolution modules + I'm a Chevening scholar. And I'm not from Russia, but from a neighbouring country were I graduated from a twin of MGIMO. But here things are different - nobody cares were you got your LLM - it's more important where and how you worked. Local law firms don't attract clients by the associate's biographies. It's not like in Russia or Ukraine - but the salaries are also different)))).
I completely agree with the previous post.
I chose QM for it's dispute resolution modules + I'm a Chevening scholar. And I'm not from Russia, but from a neighbouring country were I graduated from a twin of MGIMO. But here things are different - nobody cares were you got your LLM - it's more important where and how you worked. Local law firms don't attract clients by the associate's biographies. It's not like in Russia or Ukraine - but the salaries are also different)))).
I chose QM for it's dispute resolution modules + I'm a Chevening scholar. And I'm not from Russia, but from a neighbouring country were I graduated from a twin of MGIMO. But here things are different - nobody cares were you got your LLM - it's more important where and how you worked. Local law firms don't attract clients by the associate's biographies. It's not like in Russia or Ukraine - but the salaries are also different)))).
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