To current undergrads with a conditional offer, is the offer just a first class overall? Or first class in your final year? Also, does anyone know if they often give out specific offers regarding class rank? Thanks. 

Hello, 

I have been a quite observer of this chat for the past few weeks. I received my conditional offer of admission a few days ago. Congrats to those who have also received their offers, and to those still waiting don't worry it changes when you least expect it.                                                                                      I am looking for advice on college membership. I applied for membership with Trinity College and was unsuccessful. I applied for scholarships with this college and presume that I automatically won't get these now that they have rejected me (that sounded bitter, but it's not....entirely).                                                                                                                                   I am wondering why I was rejected, I went to one of the top law schools in my country and graduated with a high first class honours average. I don't have any publications ..etc, is this something they value in this college? Is it just an incredible competitive college? Perhaps places were already allocated to those who got in before me. 
Has anyone received admission to this college? Would you feel comfortable telling me a little about your profile?                                                                                                            Feeling a little despondent, like the calibre of those entering is beyond ridiculous which is intimidating! I don't think I would/should have necessarily won a scholarship. In fact I would have been extremely surprised if I did, but I thought at least I would get acceptance to the college. Tbh I know nothing about college membership and maybe I completely underestimated what was required to get in.                                                                                                       
Would appreciate hearing from those that know a little more. Thanks. 

[Edited by K.Lee on Mar 12, 2021]

Hello, 

I have been a quite observer of this chat for the past few weeks. I received my conditional offer of admission a few days ago. Congrats to those who have also received their offers, and to those still waiting don't worry it changes when you least expect it.                                                                                      I am looking for advice on college membership. I applied for membership with Trinity College and was unsuccessful. I applied for scholarships with this college and presume that I automatically won't get these now that they have rejected me (that sounded bitter, but it's not....entirely).                                                                                                                                   I am wondering why I was rejected, I went to one of the top law schools in my country and graduated with a high first class honours average. I don't have any publications ..etc, is this something they value in this college? Is it just an incredible competitive college? Perhaps places were already allocated to those who got in before me. 
Has anyone received admission to this college? Would you feel comfortable telling me a little about your profile?                                                                                                            Feeling a little despondent, like the calibre of those entering is beyond ridiculous which is intimidating! I don't think I would/should have necessarily won a scholarship. In fact I would have been extremely surprised if I did, but I thought at least I would get acceptance to the college. Tbh I know nothing about college membership and maybe I completely underestimated what was required to get in.                                                                                                       
Would appreciate hearing from those that know a little more. Thanks. 

[Edited by Gobbledygook on Mar 12, 2021]

Sorry about your frustration with the college result. It is not clear exactly how postgrad colleges select the candidates, but it does not seem like they are nearly as selective as undergrad admissions. Rather, it appears more like a first come, first served basis for the rather small number of students that they accept per discipline/programme, varied by some internal diversity quota to avoid everyone having the same background. Each college will admit a set number of law students, and this number will eventually fill up. 

This isn't undergrad admissions, and, consequently, there is not the same level of "prestige" attached to postgraduate college admissions (all internal rankings etc. are undergrad-based). That said, even if academic merit is not a (big) part of their assessment criteria, the reality is that the candidates that the department wants the most tend to get their admissions a good few weeks before the rest, which probably reflect their chances of getting accepted to their first pref. For example, people have been admitted to postgrad law programmes since at least the week of 15-21 Feb. Trinity is among the most oversubscribed colleges by far, so I wouldn't be surprised if it's already full (bar, perhaps some diversity stuff + a few of the scholarships might still bump people back over to Trinity later on). 
The fact that you got your rejection after just a few days suggests that it was full for your particular "group". They tend to spend much longer due to their high applicant base. 

Thank you for getting back to me. I really appreciate the reply and it has made me feel better about not getting accepted! 

My status just changed to Conditional Offer Made at the portal! So happy. 



Addition: I  received the email two hours after the portal changed. :D

[Edited by Vinícius Barros on Mar 12, 2021]

Anyone here who changed to PAO in Feb, and still in PAO? I cannot help but to worry

Anyone here who changed to PAO in Feb, and still in PAO? I cannot help but to worry

Anyone here who changed to PAO in Feb, and still in PAO? I cannot help but to worry

Anyone here who changed to PAO in Feb, and still in PAO? I cannot help but to worry

[Edited by JessieY on Mar 12, 2021]

Hello - I received my offer late yesterday UK time (presumably just before they went home for the day!)

Do we think we’ll get any movement over the weekend? I know statuses were changed to PAO over the weekend but it seems to be silent at the moment!

Same still awaiting PAO

Do we think we’ll get any movement over the weekend? I know statuses were changed to PAO over the weekend but it seems to be silent at the moment!

Same still awaiting PAO

Do we think we’ll get any movement over the weekend? I know statuses were changed to PAO over the weekend but it seems to be silent at the moment!

Sorry about your frustration with the college result. It is not clear exactly how postgrad colleges select the candidates, but it does not seem like they are nearly as selective as undergrad admissions. Rather, it appears more like a first come, first served basis for the rather small number of students that they accept per discipline/programme, varied by some internal diversity quota to avoid everyone having the same background. Each college will admit a set number of law students, and this number will eventually fill up. 

This isn't undergrad admissions, and, consequently, there is not the same level of "prestige" attached to postgraduate college admissions (all internal rankings etc. are undergrad-based). That said, even if academic merit is not a (big) part of their assessment criteria, the reality is that the candidates that the department wants the most tend to get their admissions a good few weeks before the rest, which probably reflect their chances of getting accepted to their first pref. For example, people have been admitted to postgrad law programmes since at least the week of 15-21 Feb. Trinity is among the most oversubscribed colleges by far, so I wouldn't be surprised if it's already full (bar, perhaps some diversity stuff + a few of the scholarships might still bump people back over to Trinity later on). 
The fact that you got your rejection after just a few days suggests that it was full for your particular "group". They tend to spend much longer due to their high applicant base. 

Was admitted two weeks ago and decided to go to Cambridge instead of Oxford MLF :)
Looking forward to meeting all of you in fall!

My status changed to PAO on Mar 1st and I received the conditional offer on Mar 10th.

Was admitted two weeks ago and decided to go to Cambridge instead of Oxford MLF :)
Looking forward to meeting all of you in fall!

Was admitted two weeks ago and decided to go to Cambridge instead of Oxford MLF :)
Looking forward to meeting all of you in fall!

I am in a similar situation, choosing between MLF and this LLM (potentially, since my status is still stuck in PAO). Do you mind me asking how you reach this decision? I heard someone saying that Cambridge LLM is more well-recognized than MLF and Mjur. Wonder if that is true. 

Hey! 

First: Congrats on the offer for the MLF and fingers crossed that you'll be admitted for the LLM as well. I'm not an expert and can't guarantee but judging from posts of previous years and people I talked to, you should be admitted, too :)



All those programs are great and being admitted is an outstanding accomplishment! :)
My impression is that if you ask people in top positions in law firms and other students, who studied at Oxbridge most of them will tell you that Cambridge is seen as the more prestigious institution. Furthermore, it's a bit harder to get into Cambridge. My feeling is just that people who have studied at one of those places will respect one more, if the person went to Cambridge. 

But that's far away from being a two-class society. Hope you folks get what I mean. I really don't mean to speak ill about Oxford. Its just about distinguishing on that high level. 
Another aspect that brought me to my decision is that a recruitment partner of a tier 1 investment bank in LDN told me that there is no real fit for MLF graduates in finance jobs since those graduates usually lack quantitive skills in comparison to graduates from business/economic/science courses. So in the end graduates will go into academia or pursue a career in the legal profession and for those purposes I consider the MLF as not that strong tbh. 

I mean: I applied for the MLF as well and I'm super happy and proud to have been admitted but as I said: I am pretty sure that Cam is the "better" place overall and the MLF is the "weakest" (even though most expensive) of all the programs. 

Hence, I chose Cambridge (if I will attend this year, not sure due to Covid) :)

 
But I can't stress enough: This is complaining on a very very high level and all those programs are great!Hope, I could help you. 
Best regards and fingers crossed for all of you, who are still awaiting a decision :)


Edit: Read my own post again and think that it sounds cocky. I'm really not, can assure you that. Like I said: distinction at a very high level!

Was admitted two weeks ago and decided to go to Cambridge instead of Oxford MLF :)
Looking forward to meeting all of you in fall!

I am in a similar situation, choosing between MLF and this LLM (potentially, since my status is still stuck in PAO). Do you mind me asking how you reach this decision? I heard someone saying that Cambridge LLM is more well-recognized than MLF and Mjur. Wonder if that is true. 

As between the LLM and the MLF, I'm more inclined to take the MLF, for a more practical and finance oriented course. The MLF gives me a slightly more interesting skillset I think?

[Edited by JuliaWh15 on Mar 14, 2021]

Hi all, 

stumbled over this discussion and wanted to add my opinion. First of all, I haven't applied to Cambridge this year because I couldn't meet the deadline. I got admitted to the Oxford MLF this week but won't take the offer as I am afraid to pay that much money for online classes. 

I agree with Julia that Cambridge is slightly more prestigious than Oxford. Julia mentioned some hard facts with which I fully agree. But for me sometimes its just the overall impression. Next to those facts, for me its about rankings (but not that much) and the feeling of the majority of the people that Cambridge is a bit more demanding.

I'll apply next year and see how it works out. Oxford is also great, but if I get the chance of going to Cambridge, I will take it!

Congrats to everybody, who got admitted!!!    

Hey! 

First: Congrats on the offer for the MLF and fingers crossed that you'll be admitted for the LLM as well. I'm not an expert and can't guarantee but judging from posts of previous years and people I talked to, you should be admitted, too :)



All those programs are great and being admitted is an outstanding accomplishment! :)
My impression is that if you ask people in top positions in law firms and other students, who studied at Oxbridge most of them will tell you that Cambridge is seen as the more prestigious institution. Furthermore, it's a bit harder to get into Cambridge. My feeling is just that people who have studied at one of those places will respect one more, if the person went to Cambridge. 

But that's far away from being a two-class society. Hope you folks get what I mean. I really don't mean to speak ill about Oxford. Its just about distinguishing on that high level. 
Another aspect that brought me to my decision is that a recruitment partner of a tier 1 investment bank in LDN told me that there is no real fit for MLF graduates in finance jobs since those graduates usually lack quantitive skills in comparison to graduates from business/economic/science courses. So in the end graduates will go into academia or pursue a career in the legal profession and for those purposes I consider the MLF as not that strong tbh. 

I mean: I applied for the MLF as well and I'm super happy and proud to have been admitted but as I said: I am pretty sure that Cam is the "better" place overall and the MLF is the "weakest" (even though most expensive) of all the programs. 

Hence, I chose Cambridge (if I will attend this year, not sure due to Covid) :)

 
But I can't stress enough: This is complaining on a very very high level and all those programs are great!Hope, I could help you. 
Best regards and fingers crossed for all of you, who are still awaiting a decision :)


Edit: Read my own post again and think that it sounds cocky. I'm really not, can assure you that. Like I said: distinction at a very high level!

I am in a similar situation, choosing between MLF and this LLM (potentially, since my status is still stuck in PAO). Do you mind me asking how you reach this decision? I heard someone saying that Cambridge LLM is more well-recognized than MLF and Mjur. Wonder if that is true. 

As between the LLM and the MLF, I'm more inclined to take the MLF, for a more practical and finance oriented course. The MLF gives me a slightly more interesting skillset I think?