Cambridge Application 2021-2022


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Hi, regarding condition No. 2: does this means that you submitted your application without any English proficiency evidence? 

Thanks in advance! 

I am wondering what kind of academic condition will Cambridge typically attach to final-year undergraduates. For other LLM programs, it seems that "graduating with a first" will suffice. However, I have seen some older threads suggesting that Cambridge LLM will require a specific grade for the final year/term alone?


If it helps, my conditions last year were the following:

1) Academic: Graduate from my Bachelor's Degree with a final grade of at least 8/10 or Good, Goed; 

2) Language: Take the IELTS and achieve a minimum overall score of 7.5, with at least 7.0 in each element; 

3) Other: I had a non-academic condition regarding one of my references; 

4) Prev. Visa: Upload a scanned copy of all previous UK visas used for study and any current UK visa in any immigration category; 

5) Passport: Upload a scanned copy of my current passport; 

6) Accept: Accept or decline their offer of admission via the link "accept/decline offer" found on my Self-Service page; 

7) Finance: Complete, sign and upload a Financial Undertaking Form; 

8) College: Wait for one of the Cambridge Colleges to offer membership. 

Also to the lot, I think that's why it takes quite a bit of time once we get to the PAO stage -  because every person's offer entails different conditions, and the PAO is to tailor it as such :)

Hi, regarding condition No. 2: does this means that you submitted your application without any English proficiency evidence?&nbsp;<br><br>Thanks in advance!&nbsp;<br><br>[quote][quote]I am wondering what kind of academic condition will Cambridge typically attach to final-year undergraduates. For other LLM programs, it seems that "graduating with a first" will suffice. However, I have seen some older threads suggesting that Cambridge LLM will require a specific grade for the final year/term alone? [/quote]<br><br>If it helps, my conditions last year were the following:<br><br>1) Academic: Graduate from my Bachelor's Degree with a final grade of at least 8/10 or Good, Goed;&nbsp;<br><br>2) Language: Take the IELTS and achieve a minimum overall score of 7.5, with at least 7.0 in each element;&nbsp;<br><br>3) Other: I had a non-academic condition regarding one of my references;&nbsp;<br><br>4) Prev. Visa: Upload a scanned copy of all previous UK visas used for study and any current UK visa in any immigration category;&nbsp;<br><br>5) Passport: Upload a scanned copy of my current passport;&nbsp;<br><br>6) Accept: Accept or decline their offer of admission via the link "accept/decline offer" found on my Self-Service page;&nbsp;<br><br>7) Finance: Complete, sign and upload a Financial Undertaking Form;&nbsp;<br><br>8) College: Wait for one of the Cambridge Colleges to offer membership.&nbsp;<br><br>Also to the lot, I think that's why it takes quite a bit of time once we get to the PAO stage -&nbsp; because every person's offer entails different conditions, and the PAO is to tailor it as such :) [/quote]
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francineth...


Thanks very much! Regarding the third requirement as below from your post:

3) Other: I had a non-academic condition regarding one of my references; 

Could you tell me what exactly was the non-academic condition regarding one of the references?

Thanks very much!





Yes of course! I had a referee who entered her personal email instead of the official one when submitting said reference. They then just wanted her to resend the reference from the official email to their office :)

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<div>Thanks very much! Regarding the third requirement as below from your post:<br><br></div><div>3) Other: I had a non-academic condition regarding one of my references;&nbsp;</div><br><br><div>Could you tell me what exactly was the non-academic condition regarding one of the references?</div><br><br>Thanks very much!<br><br><div>
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</div> [/quote]<br><br>Yes of course! I had a referee who entered her personal email instead of the official one when submitting said reference. They then just wanted her to resend the reference from the official email to their office :)
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francineth...

Hi, regarding condition No. 2: does this means that you submitted your application without any English proficiency evidence? 

Thanks in advance! 

I am wondering what kind of academic condition will Cambridge typically attach to final-year undergraduates. For other LLM programs, it seems that "graduating with a first" will suffice. However, I have seen some older threads suggesting that Cambridge LLM will require a specific grade for the final year/term alone?


If it helps, my conditions last year were the following:

1) Academic: Graduate from my Bachelor's Degree with a final grade of at least 8/10 or Good, Goed; 

2) Language: Take the IELTS and achieve a minimum overall score of 7.5, with at least 7.0 in each element; 

3) Other: I had a non-academic condition regarding one of my references; 

4) Prev. Visa: Upload a scanned copy of all previous UK visas used for study and any current UK visa in any immigration category; 

5) Passport: Upload a scanned copy of my current passport; 

6) Accept: Accept or decline their offer of admission via the link "accept/decline offer" found on my Self-Service page; 

7) Finance: Complete, sign and upload a Financial Undertaking Form; 

8) College: Wait for one of the Cambridge Colleges to offer membership. 

Also to the lot, I think that's why it takes quite a bit of time once we get to the PAO stage -  because every person's offer entails different conditions, and the PAO is to tailor it as such :)


Hello there! Yup yup! At the time, I checked the 'I'll take the English test afterwards' box in the application :)

[quote]Hi, regarding condition No. 2: does this means that you submitted your application without any English proficiency evidence?&nbsp;<br><br>Thanks in advance!&nbsp;<br><br>[quote][quote]I am wondering what kind of academic condition will Cambridge typically attach to final-year undergraduates. For other LLM programs, it seems that "graduating with a first" will suffice. However, I have seen some older threads suggesting that Cambridge LLM will require a specific grade for the final year/term alone? [/quote]<br><br>If it helps, my conditions last year were the following:<br><br>1) Academic: Graduate from my Bachelor's Degree with a final grade of at least 8/10 or Good, Goed;&nbsp;<br><br>2) Language: Take the IELTS and achieve a minimum overall score of 7.5, with at least 7.0 in each element;&nbsp;<br><br>3) Other: I had a non-academic condition regarding one of my references;&nbsp;<br><br>4) Prev. Visa: Upload a scanned copy of all previous UK visas used for study and any current UK visa in any immigration category;&nbsp;<br><br>5) Passport: Upload a scanned copy of my current passport;&nbsp;<br><br>6) Accept: Accept or decline their offer of admission via the link "accept/decline offer" found on my Self-Service page;&nbsp;<br><br>7) Finance: Complete, sign and upload a Financial Undertaking Form;&nbsp;<br><br>8) College: Wait for one of the Cambridge Colleges to offer membership.&nbsp;<br><br>Also to the lot, I think that's why it takes quite a bit of time once we get to the PAO stage -&nbsp; because every person's offer entails different conditions, and the PAO is to tailor it as such :) [/quote] [/quote]<br><br>Hello there! Yup yup! At the time, I checked the 'I'll take the English test afterwards' box in the application :)
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Naz Khan

Anyone know whether a condition for offers is to verify transcripts?

I submitted my official undergrad transcript + degree certificate.

For my postgrad transcript, I submitted a self-certified transcript using my institutions online services. Strangely, my postgrad university never issued an official transcript (covid maybe, I don't know). I received my official degree certificate in the post after the application deadline.


Wondering if anybody knows the answer to this so I can possibly look at ordering an official postgrad transcript (could be a delay). 

As far as I know my references should be fine.

Thanks.

Anyone know whether a condition for offers is to verify transcripts?<br><br>I submitted my official undergrad transcript + degree certificate.<br><br>For my postgrad transcript, I submitted a self-certified transcript using my institutions online services. Strangely, my postgrad university never issued an official transcript (covid maybe, I don't know). I received my official degree certificate in the post after the application deadline.<br><br><br>Wondering if anybody knows the answer to this so I can possibly look at ordering an official postgrad transcript (could be a delay).&nbsp;<br><br>As far as I know my references should be fine.<br><br>Thanks.
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ogaihttdp

Anyone know whether a condition for offers is to verify transcripts?

I submitted my official undergrad transcript + degree certificate.

For my postgrad transcript, I submitted a self-certified transcript using my institutions online services. Strangely, my postgrad university never issued an official transcript (covid maybe, I don't know). I received my official degree certificate in the post after the application deadline.


Wondering if anybody knows the answer to this so I can possibly look at ordering an official postgrad transcript (could be a delay). 

As far as I know my references should be fine.

Thanks.


I emailed the Graduate Admissions Office back in September because I was facing a similar issue (my home uni sent me some transcripts with an electronic signature due to Covid). I believe that the answer clarifies your question a little bit: 

Thank you for your email. For your initial application we simply need a full or provisional transcript uploaded in PDF form (under 2 MB). If you were to then receive an offer for the LLM, we would then set you academic conditions to verify your academic documents. So, as long as the Adobe AATL document can be physically submitted to the application then that will be absolutely fine.

[quote]Anyone know whether a condition for offers is to verify transcripts?<br><br>I submitted my official undergrad transcript + degree certificate.<br><br>For my postgrad transcript, I submitted a self-certified transcript using my institutions online services. Strangely, my postgrad university never issued an official transcript (covid maybe, I don't know). I received my official degree certificate in the post after the application deadline.<br><br><br>Wondering if anybody knows the answer to this so I can possibly look at ordering an official postgrad transcript (could be a delay).&nbsp;<br><br>As far as I know my references should be fine.<br><br>Thanks. [/quote]<br><br>I emailed the Graduate Admissions Office back in September because I was facing a similar issue (my home uni sent me some transcripts with an electronic signature due to Covid). I believe that the answer clarifies your question a little bit:&nbsp;<br><br>Thank you for your email. For your initial application we simply need a full or provisional transcript uploaded in PDF form (under 2 MB). If you were to then receive an offer for the LLM, we would then set you academic conditions to verify your academic documents. So, as long as the Adobe AATL document can be physically submitted to the application then that will be absolutely fine.
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Hello. Any applicants here from Pakistan? Has your status changed from Awaiting Approval from PAO?

Hello. Any applicants here from Pakistan? Has your status changed from Awaiting Approval from PAO?
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llmpk99

Hello. Any applicants here from Pakistan? Has your status changed from Awaiting Approval from PAO?


Hi. My application changed to PAO on March 1st and it’s been the same ever since.

[quote]Hello. Any applicants here from Pakistan? Has your status changed from Awaiting Approval from PAO? [/quote]<br><br>Hi. My application changed to PAO on March 1st and it’s been the same ever since.
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lEspresso

Hi guys!
I finally received my conditional offer tonight for the MCL (status changed to awaiting approval by GAO/PAO on 17 February). I'm very happy about this, but I have one question about my conditions. They asked for a certificate or official transcript of my bachelor's degree, but I already provided the official document. So, I had a look at the booklet on "your offer and its conditions", and this also says that the transcript must include an explanation in English of the marking scheme used for the degree. Does this simply refer to which score corresponds with a first in the UK? Hoping that you guys have an idea what it might be about!

Hi guys!<br>I finally received my conditional offer tonight for the MCL (status changed to awaiting approval by GAO/PAO on 17 February). I'm very happy about this, but I have one question about my conditions. They asked for a certificate or official transcript of my bachelor's degree, but I already provided the official document. So, I had a look at the booklet on "your offer and its conditions", and this also says that the transcript must include an explanation in English of the marking scheme used for the degree. Does this simply refer to which score corresponds with a first in the UK? Hoping that you guys have an idea what it might be about!
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Gobbledygo...

I don't think many countries would ever make a transcript that compares their grades to UK grades. They simply refer to a transcript that explains the grading system in your country and perhaps information on the educational system (length of the programme, does this qualify you for any particular legal positions, what the grading scale is like, what do they mean, e.g. A = "an excellent performance + some text about it, B = "very good", plus more explanatory text, etc.). This will usually always be part of your transcript from most unis and tends to take up some 2-10 pages of text after the page with your grades on it. Double-check in your offer whether the condition is "outstanding" or not, cause they have this annoying habit of listing all possible conditions even when completed. If it is outstanding, look for either whether (1) your transcript lacks a signature/stamp on every page if it is a scanned version (for verification purposes); or (2) for a valid e-signature if the document is an electronic transcript. If after checking you still have no idea why it's outstanding, send them a ticket and wait some 5-10 days for their reply. Might be their mistake.

[Edited by Gobbledygook on Mar 04, 2021]

I don't think many countries would ever make a transcript that compares their grades to UK grades. They simply refer to a transcript that explains the grading system in your country and perhaps information on the educational system (length of the programme, does this qualify you for any particular legal positions, what the grading scale is like, what do they mean, e.g. A = "an excellent performance + some text about it, B = "very good", plus more explanatory text, etc.). This will usually always be part of your transcript from most unis and tends to take up some 2-10 pages of text after the page with your grades on it. Double-check in your offer whether the condition is "outstanding" or not, cause they have this annoying habit of listing all possible conditions even when completed. If it is outstanding, look for either whether (1) your transcript lacks a signature/stamp on every page if it is a scanned version (for verification purposes); or (2) for a valid e-signature if the document is an electronic transcript. If after checking you still have no idea why it's outstanding, send them a ticket and wait some 5-10 days for their reply. Might be their mistake.
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lEspresso

I don't think many countries would ever make a transcript that compares their grades to UK grades. They simply refer to a transcript that explains the grading system in your country and perhaps information on the educational system (length of the programme, does this qualify you for any particular legal positions, what the grading scale is like, what do they mean, e.g. A = "an excellent performance + some text about it, B = "very good", plus more explanatory text, etc.). This will usually always be part of your transcript from most unis and tends to take up some 2-10 pages of text after the page with your grades on it. Double-check in your offer whether the condition is "outstanding" or not, cause they have this annoying habit of listing all possible conditions even when completed. If it is outstanding, look for either whether (1) your transcript lacks a signature/stamp on every page if it is a scanned version (for verification purposes); or (2) for a valid e-signature if the document is an electronic transcript. If after checking you still have no idea why it's outstanding, send them a ticket and wait some 5-10 days for their reply. Might be their mistake.

Thank you so much for replying, it's very helpful. I'm pretty sure that all those things were already included, but I'll verify that. The condition was indeed still outstanding. I've got to say that my current university really isn't the best when it comes to administration, so I'm really hoping that everything is in order after a quick check. Thanks again!

[quote]I don't think many countries would ever make a transcript that compares their grades to UK grades. They simply refer to a transcript that explains the grading system in your country and perhaps information on the educational system (length of the programme, does this qualify you for any particular legal positions, what the grading scale is like, what do they mean, e.g. A = "an excellent performance + some text about it, B = "very good", plus more explanatory text, etc.). This will usually always be part of your transcript from most unis and tends to take up some 2-10 pages of text after the page with your grades on it. Double-check in your offer whether the condition is "outstanding" or not, cause they have this annoying habit of listing all possible conditions even when completed. If it is outstanding, look for either whether (1) your transcript lacks a signature/stamp on every page if it is a scanned version (for verification purposes); or (2) for a valid e-signature if the document is an electronic transcript. If after checking you still have no idea why it's outstanding, send them a ticket and wait some 5-10 days for their reply. Might be their mistake. [/quote]<br>Thank you so much for replying, it's very helpful. I'm pretty sure that all those things were already included, but I'll verify that. The condition was indeed still outstanding. I've got to say that my current university really isn't the best when it comes to administration, so I'm really hoping that everything is in order after a quick check. Thanks again!
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JoGoo14

Hi guys, just to keep the news flow about developments updated - I received a conditional offer for MCL today (conditional upon visa, etc). 

Hi guys, just to keep the news flow about developments updated - I received a conditional offer for MCL today (conditional upon visa, etc).&nbsp;
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hi I am new to the forum from india :) nice to meet all of you 

I went to PAO 1st March!

how do Cambridge and UK institutions verify documents?

My first degree University is relatively unknown in India I have stamped and signed transcript that I upload myself? 

Will this be enough I am not sure.

Thank you :)

hi I am new to the forum from india :) nice to meet all of you&nbsp;<br><br>I went to PAO 1st March!<br><br>how do Cambridge and UK institutions verify documents?<br><br>My first degree University is relatively unknown in India I have stamped and signed transcript that I upload myself?&nbsp;<br><br>Will this be enough I am not sure.<br><br>Thank you :)
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NicoleE

Is there a whatsapp group for LLM offer holders? 

Is there a whatsapp group for LLM offer holders?&nbsp;
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Gobbledygo...

hi I am new to the forum from india :) nice to meet all of you 

I went to PAO 1st March!

how do Cambridge and UK institutions verify documents?

My first degree University is relatively unknown in India I have stamped and signed transcript that I upload myself? 

Will this be enough I am not sure.

Thank you :)


All I can say is that you should just wait and see what PAO decides. It's easier and will save you from unnecessary anxiety if you don't analyse in advance how things might go wrong before they have. Cambridge would never provide exact details on how they verify documents, as making those details public would do the document forgers a great service. Stamping and signing should normally be enough (it also tends to help if every page is signed or stamped). I never had to do anything with the transcripts I uploaded for my application as part of my conditions and I expect most of you also won't be required to re-upload transcripts for verification purposes. If PAO should decide that you need to provide more information when the offer is sent, however, they will tell you what they want, and if unclear, you can email them. You'll have plenty of time to clear things up since the deadline for meeting your conditions is on 31 July (which can even be extended on request).

[quote]hi I am new to the forum from india :) nice to meet all of you&nbsp;<br><br>I went to PAO 1st March!<br><br>how do Cambridge and UK institutions verify documents?<br><br>My first degree University is relatively unknown in India I have stamped and signed transcript that I upload myself?&nbsp;<br><br>Will this be enough I am not sure.<br><br>Thank you :) [/quote]<br><br>All I can say is that you should just wait and see what PAO decides. It's easier and will save you from unnecessary anxiety if you don't analyse in advance how things might go wrong before they have. Cambridge would never provide exact details on how they verify documents, as making those details public would do the document forgers a great service. Stamping and signing should normally be enough (it also tends to help if every page is signed or stamped). I never had to do anything with the transcripts I uploaded for my application as part of my conditions and I expect most of you also won't be required to re-upload transcripts for verification purposes. If PAO should decide that you need to provide more information when the offer is sent, however, they will tell you what they want, and if unclear, you can email them. You'll have plenty of time to clear things up since the deadline for meeting your conditions is on 31 July (which can even be extended on request).<br>
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socratesco...

Hi to all. Does anyone know whether AFTER THE PAO CONFIRMS MY OFFER (that is to say after I meet all the offer's conditions including a college designation), I could still back out without any (legal or other) consequences? 

[Edited by socratesconium on Mar 07, 2021]

Hi to all. Does anyone know whether AFTER THE PAO CONFIRMS MY OFFER (that is to say after I meet all the offer's conditions including a college designation), I could still back out without any (legal or other) consequences?&nbsp;
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Gobbledygo...

Hi to all. Does anyone know whether AFTER THE PAO CONFIRMS MY OFFER (that is to say after I meet all the offer's conditions including a college designation), I could still back out without any (legal or other) consequences? 


You should be able to withdraw at any time, but you can save yourself the trouble of having to take active steps in withdrawing simply by waiting with some of the simpler conditions of your offer until July, e.g. wait with accepting it, uploading your passport or your financial statement. It's not uncommon with people withdrawing even later than 31 July, but they might get annoyed if you withdraw after they've started or completed preparations for the acad year, so I would perhaps try to avoid withdrawing in September.

[quote]Hi to all. Does anyone know whether AFTER THE PAO CONFIRMS MY OFFER (that is to say after I meet all the offer's conditions including a college designation), I could still back out without any (legal or other) consequences?&nbsp; [/quote]<br><br>You should be able to withdraw at any time, but you can save yourself the trouble of having to take active steps in withdrawing simply by waiting with some of the simpler conditions of your offer until July, e.g. wait with accepting it, uploading your passport or your financial statement. It's not uncommon with people withdrawing even later than 31 July, but they might get annoyed if you withdraw after they've started or completed preparations for the acad year, so I would perhaps try to avoid withdrawing in September.
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ijac25

We should expect offers this or next week, right?

We should expect offers this or next week, right?
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gary666

It is probable. I have received my offer for LLM 7 days after moving to GAO and for the MCL 18 days after moving to GAO (then PAO). Since most of the fellow applicants' status changed to PAO on March 1, it would be reasonable to expect the offers this week or the next.

We should expect offers this or next week, right?

It is probable. I have received my offer for LLM 7 days after moving to GAO and for the MCL 18 days after moving to GAO (then PAO). Since most of the fellow applicants' status changed to PAO on March 1, it would be reasonable to expect the offers this week or the next.<br><br>[quote]We should expect offers this or next week, right? [/quote]
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NicoleE

The postgraduate admissions website currently states 8 working days from PAO - so fingers crossed next week! But I think it may be a little longer than 8 days.

We should expect offers this or next week, right?

The postgraduate admissions website currently states 8 working days from PAO - so fingers crossed next week! But I think it may be a little longer than 8 days.<br><br>[quote]We should expect offers this or next week, right? [/quote]
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ao.work

Any movement from PAO?

Any movement from PAO?
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