Cambridge application 2018/2019


Did anyone hear back on scholarships and financing yet?


No one here heard?
[quote]Did anyone hear back on scholarships and financing yet?[/quote]

No one here heard?
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Studyalong
I think it d be worth it for future applicants and those rejected to understand briefly what the profile of those who got an offer looks like in terms of grades/previous degree/duration of work experience/in what sector. Thanks and well done for getting in! Also do any of you think that if rejected, it s a bad idea to reapply in the future? Will it impact the outcome of your application?


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Hope this helps, but looking at some others who were rejected I think there's at least a smattering of luck involved.
[quote]I think it d be worth it for future applicants and those rejected to understand briefly what the profile of those who got an offer looks like in terms of grades/previous degree/duration of work experience/in what sector. Thanks and well done for getting in! Also do any of you think that if rejected, it s a bad idea to reapply in the future? Will it impact the outcome of your application? [/quote]

Top 10% (First Class) of class in top 5 UK University
A number of publications, pro bono blog editorship
Sports captaincy and other extra-currics
Three month traineeship on big international court, one month as research assistant on a national supreme court (commonwealth)
Focused career objective

Hope this helps, but looking at some others who were rejected I think there's at least a smattering of luck involved.
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Does anyone know if Cambridge is amenable to sending expedited scholarship decisions if we have multiple offers with deadlines looming?


I doubt it. However on TSR some people (not law applicants) were able to find out whether or not their department had put them forward for funding, so they at least knew if they definitely had no chance. May be worth e-mailing the law faculty. Do your offers require you to pay a deposit? If not you could always accept and then withdraw the acceptance if you get funding elsewhere.
[quote]Does anyone know if Cambridge is amenable to sending expedited scholarship decisions if we have multiple offers with deadlines looming?[/quote]

I doubt it. However on TSR some people (not law applicants) were able to find out whether or not their department had put them forward for funding, so they at least knew if they definitely had no chance. May be worth e-mailing the law faculty. Do your offers require you to pay a deposit? If not you could always accept and then withdraw the acceptance if you get funding elsewhere.
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LegalLife
Does anyone know if Cambridge is amenable to sending expedited scholarship decisions if we have multiple offers with deadlines looming?


Truth is that you will not be able to hurry Cambridge up, on scholarship decisions. They do take their time and stick with their funding deadlines. I tried it, it did not work for me then.
[quote]Does anyone know if Cambridge is amenable to sending expedited scholarship decisions if we have multiple offers with deadlines looming?[/quote]

Truth is that you will not be able to hurry Cambridge up, on scholarship decisions. They do take their time and stick with their funding deadlines. I tried it, it did not work for me then.
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LegalLife


To be honest I still think that the LLM is not as competitive as they make out to be, but I assume that is because I have had personal experiences that tell me so. For example, both me and my colleague got into the LLM programme, although neither of us had a first. My colleague was even quite far away from it. Meanwhile the best student in my class in high school got into the final round for admission into Cambridge's undergrad program in law, but was ultimately not selected, even though his grades were ridiculously high (a minimum of 90% average on all his courses, mind you in my country our curriculum constists out of 12 courses, so that means he scored equally well on maths as on French or sports, crazy). He ultimately chose not to study law and went for a degree in civil engineering, and is still way more talented than I am.

I mean, by all means, let's pat ourselves on the back that we made it into Cambridge, but all I am saying is that we should keep our heads level and realize that this is just an LLM program.


I don’t think the academic rigour of a high school curriculum can be compared to a university’s, but ok


I agree, and also I’d very interested to know why they’re accepting people with 2:1’s, if what Ribben is saying is true, when I know people who Cambridge have rejected with firsts, eg someone who has a first and did a training contract at a magic circle firm... my understanding is if you do not have a first you will not be admitted. I feel a freedom of information request coming on to find out if this is true.



Cambridge does accept students with a 2.1 for the LLM. I know that for a fact. However, most of these students, are actually international students and for most of these, they are actually the top of their classes. There are universities that do not hand out first class degrees especially elsewhere in the world. So Cambridge always asks the referee to indicate the class rank and in such instances where the candidate has a 2.1 but is first in the class and has considerable work experience and a good CV, Cambridge will bend and admit them. It is the reasonable thing to do. Those students are not in the same place as those from the developed world and common sense dictates that this be considered. Interestingly, those students usually do perform very well at Cambridge which speaks of their potential.

Having a first does not guarantee you entry into Cambridge. A 2.1 with, say, 3 years experience will most likely get in while a 1st with no experience may be rejected. At the end of the day, Cambridge is admitting those who will flourish on and with the LLM and not just a bright kid pursuing another degree.

Also, remember those essays are important. If you cannot articulate your career path and cannot tell how that LLM will benefit you, not even a 1st will get you in. The admissions team looks at your application as a whole. Same thing with Harvard and Oxford both of which my BFF got in with a 2.1. A very good CV and references and good application will get you in anywhere in the world.

But make no mistake. The LLM programme statistics speak for themselves when it comes to how competitive it is to get in. The Faculty gets over 1000 applications for just 150 spaces.

And those talking about enforcement, whenever a student is admitted without the 1st in Cambridge, the Faculty justifies that admission to GAO and this is allowed.

PS: The exceptions to the 1st will be less than 10 in every admissions process of 150 applicants.

[Edited by LegalLife on Mar 19, 2018]

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There exists a high minimum academic requirement for Cambridge LLM applicants. It applies equally to Cambridge Undergraduate students as well as law students from other schools. If the LLM were in fact less competitive than the undergraduate course the entire Cambridge undergraduate cohort would gain automatic admission to the Cambridge LLM regardless of their grades. That is not the case, though.

I think it's at least plausible to suggest that the calibre of the average Cambridge LLM applicant is of higher quality than the average Cambridge undergraduate applicant. This is because LLM applicants, assuming most of those applying do have first class grades, are proven to be adept at legal reasoning, writing and handling education at a tertiary level more generally. Numbers alone cannot account for this difference in quality. (Of course, you can point out that grading methods vary among universities and those applying might hold grades more inflated than Cambridge undergraduate students', but I don't think these applicants are in the majority)
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To be honest I still think that the LLM is not as competitive as they make out to be, but I assume that is because I have had personal experiences that tell me so. For example, both me and my colleague got into the LLM programme, although neither of us had a first. My colleague was even quite far away from it. Meanwhile the best student in my class in high school got into the final round for admission into Cambridge's undergrad program in law, but was ultimately not selected, even though his grades were ridiculously high (a minimum of 90% average on all his courses, mind you in my country our curriculum constists out of 12 courses, so that means he scored equally well on maths as on French or sports, crazy). He ultimately chose not to study law and went for a degree in civil engineering, and is still way more talented than I am.

I mean, by all means, let's pat ourselves on the back that we made it into Cambridge, but all I am saying is that we should keep our heads level and realize that this is just an LLM program.[/quote]

I don’t think the academic rigour of a high school curriculum can be compared to a university’s, but ok [/quote]

I agree, and also I’d very interested to know why they’re accepting people with 2:1’s, if what Ribben is saying is true, when I know people who Cambridge have rejected with firsts, eg someone who has a first and did a training contract at a magic circle firm... my understanding is if you do not have a first you will not be admitted. I feel a freedom of information request coming on to find out if this is true.[/quote]


Cambridge does accept students with a 2.1 for the LLM. I know that for a fact. However, most of these students, are actually international students and for most of these, they are actually the top of their classes. There are universities that do not hand out first class degrees especially elsewhere in the world. So Cambridge always asks the referee to indicate the class rank and in such instances where the candidate has a 2.1 but is first in the class and has considerable work experience and a good CV, Cambridge will bend and admit them. It is the reasonable thing to do. Those students are not in the same place as those from the developed world and common sense dictates that this be considered. Interestingly, those students usually do perform very well at Cambridge which speaks of their potential.

Having a first does not guarantee you entry into Cambridge. A 2.1 with, say, 3 years experience will most likely get in while a 1st with no experience may be rejected. At the end of the day, Cambridge is admitting those who will flourish on and with the LLM and not just a bright kid pursuing another degree.

Also, remember those essays are important. If you cannot articulate your career path and cannot tell how that LLM will benefit you, not even a 1st will get you in. The admissions team looks at your application as a whole. Same thing with Harvard and Oxford both of which my BFF got in with a 2.1. A very good CV and references and good application will get you in anywhere in the world.

But make no mistake. The LLM programme statistics speak for themselves when it comes to how competitive it is to get in. The Faculty gets over 1000 applications for just 150 spaces.

And those talking about enforcement, whenever a student is admitted without the 1st in Cambridge, the Faculty justifies that admission to GAO and this is allowed.

PS: The exceptions to the 1st will be less than 10 in every admissions process of 150 applicants.
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Does anyone know if Cambridge is amenable to sending expedited scholarship decisions if we have multiple offers with deadlines looming?


Truth is that you will not be able to hurry Cambridge up, on scholarship decisions. They do take their time and stick with their funding deadlines. I tried it, it did not work for me then.


May I ask when you were informed of the outcome of your funding application?
[quote][quote]Does anyone know if Cambridge is amenable to sending expedited scholarship decisions if we have multiple offers with deadlines looming?[/quote]

Truth is that you will not be able to hurry Cambridge up, on scholarship decisions. They do take their time and stick with their funding deadlines. I tried it, it did not work for me then.[/quote]

May I ask when you were informed of the outcome of your funding application?
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Having a first does not guarantee you entry into Cambridge. A 2.1 with, say, 3 years experience will most likely get in while a 1st with no experience may be rejected. At the end of the day, Cambridge is admitting those who will flourish on and with the LLM and not just a bright kid pursuing another degree.


Just to add, for the benefit of future applicants who have no work experience and are worried about their chances, it is by no means essential. I was admitted with zero work experience. As Legal Life says, experience can compensate for less than brilliant academic performance, but it is equally true that academic credentials can also be strong enough on their own to make up for lack of experience. So while it's correct to say that a first won't guarantee you a place, you shouldn't be discouraged from applying if you 'only' have a first.
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Having a first does not guarantee you entry into Cambridge. A 2.1 with, say, 3 years experience will most likely get in while a 1st with no experience may be rejected. At the end of the day, Cambridge is admitting those who will flourish on and with the LLM and not just a bright kid pursuing another degree.
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Just to add, for the benefit of future applicants who have no work experience and are worried about their chances, it is by no means essential. I was admitted with zero work experience. As Legal Life says, experience can compensate for less than brilliant academic performance, but it is equally true that academic credentials can also be strong enough on their own to make up for lack of experience. So while it's correct to say that a first won't guarantee you a place, you shouldn't be discouraged from applying if you 'only' have a first.
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Studyalong
Has anybody not heard from a college yet?
Has anybody not heard from a college yet?
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Hi! I got an acceptance email on 5 February and my application status changed to "Awaiting approval by GAO" on the 27th. However, the status has not changed thus far and I haven't received my conditional offer yet. Anybody in the same situation? I called them up but got no useful info. Thanks!
Hi! I got an acceptance email on 5 February and my application status changed to "Awaiting approval by GAO" on the 27th. However, the status has not changed thus far and I haven't received my conditional offer yet. Anybody in the same situation? I called them up but got no useful info. Thanks!
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Ribben
Has anybody not heard from a college yet?


Haven't heard anything yet. Put Jesus on one and St Eddies on two. Received the conditional offer about a week and a half ago.
[quote]Has anybody not heard from a college yet?[/quote]

Haven't heard anything yet. Put Jesus on one and St Eddies on two. Received the conditional offer about a week and a half ago.
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LLM-9418
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[Edited by LLM-9418 on May 16, 2018]

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MJ1997-15
I received my conditional offer and access to the self service account for the LL.M on 7th March 2018.

Following which I received an offer from Queens' College on 13th March 2018.

I hope this helps to put things into perspective.

The offers will eventually come in due time.
I received my conditional offer and access to the self service account for the LL.M on 7th March 2018.

Following which I received an offer from Queens' College on 13th March 2018.

I hope this helps to put things into perspective.

The offers will eventually come in due time.
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LegalLife
Does anyone know if Cambridge is amenable to sending expedited scholarship decisions if we have multiple offers with deadlines looming?


Truth is that you will not be able to hurry Cambridge up, on scholarship decisions. They do take their time and stick with their funding deadlines. I tried it, it did not work for me then.


May I ask when you were informed of the outcome of your funding application?


Funding decisions roll out from March all the way to July.
[quote][quote][quote]Does anyone know if Cambridge is amenable to sending expedited scholarship decisions if we have multiple offers with deadlines looming?[/quote]

Truth is that you will not be able to hurry Cambridge up, on scholarship decisions. They do take their time and stick with their funding deadlines. I tried it, it did not work for me then.[/quote]

May I ask when you were informed of the outcome of your funding application? [/quote]

Funding decisions roll out from March all the way to July.
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Ohh nice, we should talk sometime

Hello Guys,

I got my offer mail on the 5th of February and still waiting for a formal offer. :(

Are there Nigerians here that have received offers?


Hey, I am Nigerian and I received an offer on the 5th of February too :)
Ohh nice, we should talk sometime

[quote][quote]Hello Guys,

I got my offer mail on the 5th of February and still waiting for a formal offer. :(

Are there Nigerians here that have received offers?[/quote]

Hey, I am Nigerian and I received an offer on the 5th of February too :)[/quote]
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Has anyone heard from Gonville and Caius College?
Has anyone heard from Gonville and Caius College?
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kudzani
I received an email today from Luisa for the Gates Cambridge scholarship but l haven't received any correspondence for my MCL application. My applicant portal still says under department review.

Is it likely that Gates Cambridge considers our applications after we receive program offers? I thought it was the other way round.
I received an email today from Luisa for the Gates Cambridge scholarship but l haven't received any correspondence for my MCL application. My applicant portal still says under department review.

Is it likely that Gates Cambridge considers our applications after we receive program offers? I thought it was the other way round.
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Studyalong
Has anybody not heard from a college yet?


I haven't. My status states "seeking college membership" for more than two weeks now.

This is, however, still within the expected time frame:

"Colleges will not receive your application until a formal offer of admission has been made by the Graduate Admissions Office. The average time for a College decision to be made is three weeks. However, please note each College may take approximately ten working days to make a decision and applications are often considered by more than one College."


Thanks for the info. Was rejected from my first two so excited to see where I end up
[quote][quote]Has anybody not heard from a college yet?[/quote]

I haven't. My status states "seeking college membership" for more than two weeks now.

This is, however, still within the expected time frame:

"Colleges will not receive your application until a formal offer of admission has been made by the Graduate Admissions Office. The average time for a College decision to be made is three weeks. However, please note each College may take approximately ten working days to make a decision and applications are often considered by more than one College."[/quote]

Thanks for the info. Was rejected from my first two so excited to see where I end up
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weiluoman
pm'ed you

I received an email today from Luisa for the Gates Cambridge scholarship but l haven't received any correspondence for my MCL application. My applicant portal still says under department review.

Is it likely that Gates Cambridge considers our applications after we receive program offers? I thought it was the other way round.

[Edited by weiluoman on Mar 21, 2018]

pm'ed you

[quote]I received an email today from Luisa for the Gates Cambridge scholarship but l haven't received any correspondence for my MCL application. My applicant portal still says under department review.

Is it likely that Gates Cambridge considers our applications after we receive program offers? I thought it was the other way round.[/quote]
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LLM2238
My second preferred college turned to unsuccessful this morning on the self-service account. I wonder where I'll end up now...
My second preferred college turned to unsuccessful this morning on the self-service account. I wonder where I'll end up now...
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My second preferred college turned to unsuccessful this morning on the self-service account. I wonder where I'll end up now...


My self-service also says my send pref rejected me (Trinity lol not surprised), but it said nothing about my first pref. Does that mean my first pref has rejected me also, or is there hope? I'm now sure whether they only give your application to your second pref after your first pref has rejected you, or whether they give your app to both prefs to consider at the same time.
[quote]My second preferred college turned to unsuccessful this morning on the self-service account. I wonder where I'll end up now...[/quote]

My self-service also says my send pref rejected me (Trinity lol not surprised), but it said nothing about my first pref. Does that mean my first pref has rejected me also, or is there hope? I'm now sure whether they only give your application to your second pref after your first pref has rejected you, or whether they give your app to both prefs to consider at the same time.
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