LLM and MBA


allogo
A MBA after or before a LLM, useful or loss of time and money ?
A MBA after or before a LLM, useful or loss of time and money ?
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york
I guess you should tell us a bit more about yourself and your career plans...
I guess you should tell us a bit more about yourself and your career plans...
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xyz
If you are a lawyer and want to pursue a career in a non-legal field, an MBA with the appropriate specialization is a good way to qualify for that. This is from an interview on the FindLaw pages:

"FindLaw: What benefits does an MBA offer a lawyer?

Abbott: An MBA provides me with the opportunity to expand my skills beyond law. As a Partner in a firm that has about 300 staff, it is imperative that I have the management skills necessary to fulfill my role in servicing clients, managing my team and marketing and managing my practice area. We tend to be very law focused at times in our personal development and it is useful to invest in a broader skill set. It is all part of the way we seek to position ourselves with the best possible skill set to provide our clients with quality advice within tight timeframes.

Beilby: It offers an opportunity to learn the theory behind some different skills than those taught in the average law degree, and also to be involved in case studies and see the results of alternate methods of running businesses.

Bell: An MBA brings a lawyer skills in areas outside a lawyer's traditional training. Many of these are essential for the management of a law firm. An MBA also trains lawyers to think in a different way to that usually required when addressing a legal problem. Quite often, a legal problem requires a precise answer and detailed factual analysis. However managers are often required to make decisions on the run and without all the facts. An MBA assists lawyers in adopting this form of framework."

To read the full intweview, go to http://practice.findlaw.com
If you are a lawyer and want to pursue a career in a non-legal field, an MBA with the appropriate specialization is a good way to qualify for that. This is from an interview on the FindLaw pages:

"FindLaw: What benefits does an MBA offer a lawyer?

Abbott: An MBA provides me with the opportunity to expand my skills beyond law. As a Partner in a firm that has about 300 staff, it is imperative that I have the management skills necessary to fulfill my role in servicing clients, managing my team and marketing and managing my practice area. We tend to be very law focused at times in our personal development and it is useful to invest in a broader skill set. It is all part of the way we seek to position ourselves with the best possible skill set to provide our clients with quality advice within tight timeframes.

Beilby: It offers an opportunity to learn the theory behind some different skills than those taught in the average law degree, and also to be involved in case studies and see the results of alternate methods of running businesses.

Bell: An MBA brings a lawyer skills in areas outside a lawyer's traditional training. Many of these are essential for the management of a law firm. An MBA also trains lawyers to think in a different way to that usually required when addressing a legal problem. Quite often, a legal problem requires a precise answer and detailed factual analysis. However managers are often required to make decisions on the run and without all the facts. An MBA assists lawyers in adopting this form of framework."

To read the full intweview, go to http://practice.findlaw.com
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Are you looking for a LLM/MBA programme? I realised that there are only four
http://www.llm-guide.com/search/results/1
Are you looking for a LLM/MBA programme? I realised that there are only four
http://www.llm-guide.com/search/results/1
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Carter
Are you looking for a LLM/MBA programme? I realised that there are only four
http://www.llm-guide.com/search/results/1


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<blockquote>Are you looking for a LLM/MBA programme? I realised that there are only four
http://www.llm-guide.com/search/results/1
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Ruben,
Sorry for the late reply. You should use the "Search LLM" tool, located at the top of the llm-guide.com page. Use the "keyword search" and put in the blank "MBA". The results will be Monash University (Australia), Danube University Krems (Austria), Leiden University (Netherlands) and International University Concordia Audentes (Estonia). Leiden does not offer a MBA for 2006. Dundee University has the CEPMLP (Centre for Energy, Petroleum and Mineral Law and Policy) which has a dual degree. You could star with a LLM degree and then take the MBA. (http://www.dundee.ac.uk/cepmlp/main/html/academic/Dual_Degrees_MBA_combos.php)

LLM/ MBA programs are limited to five ones because I think they are double degree ones. A MBA focused on law has more options, but at the end you would not have a LLM degree but a MBA. Try with www.find-mba.com >> "advanced MBA program search" >>"subject area" >> "law"
Take a look about a professor of HEC MBA (one of the top ten in Europe) advised me:
"The MBA does not have a specialisation on law, so you
legal knowledge will not profit too much from that program. However, your management skills and you comprehension for the economic context will certainly be enhanced significantly. Accordingly, my suggestion would be that you choose the MBA if you already feel fully comfortable and well settled with your legal skills in order to really profit of
the added value to your carreer as a lawyer; if you feel that your legal skills could still benefit from some polishing, I would suggest you to rather consider a good LLM program."

Good Luck in your election and feel free to contact me for any enquiry or to share information.

Regards
Manuel
Ruben,
Sorry for the late reply. You should use the "Search LLM" tool, located at the top of the llm-guide.com page. Use the "keyword search" and put in the blank "MBA". The results will be Monash University (Australia), Danube University Krems (Austria), Leiden University (Netherlands) and International University Concordia Audentes (Estonia). Leiden does not offer a MBA for 2006. Dundee University has the CEPMLP (Centre for Energy, Petroleum and Mineral Law and Policy) which has a dual degree. You could star with a LLM degree and then take the MBA. (http://www.dundee.ac.uk/cepmlp/main/html/academic/Dual_Degrees_MBA_combos.php)

LLM/ MBA programs are limited to five ones because I think they are double degree ones. A MBA focused on law has more options, but at the end you would not have a LLM degree but a MBA. Try with www.find-mba.com >> "advanced MBA program search" >>"subject area" >> "law"
Take a look about a professor of HEC MBA (one of the top ten in Europe) advised me:
"The MBA does not have a specialisation on law, so you
legal knowledge will not profit too much from that program. However, your management skills and you comprehension for the economic context will certainly be enhanced significantly. Accordingly, my suggestion would be that you choose the MBA if you already feel fully comfortable and well settled with your legal skills in order to really profit of
the added value to your carreer as a lawyer; if you feel that your legal skills could still benefit from some polishing, I would suggest you to rather consider a good LLM program."

Good Luck in your election and feel free to contact me for any enquiry or to share information.

Regards
Manuel
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Hi
I am an Indian LL.B student. Does anyone know about a combined LLM/MBA programme in India.
Regards.
Hi
I am an Indian LL.B student. Does anyone know about a combined LLM/MBA programme in India.
Regards.
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Hi Siddhard. I have looked for MBA/LLM programs for few weeks but I didn't find one in India.

However, there is a new program MBA/LLM in University of New South Wales (UNSW) in partnership with the Australian Graduate School of Management (AGSM). Take a look at http://www.law.unsw.edu.au/future_students/postgraduate/mballm.asp

But how about the opportunities to find a good job after the MBA/LLM? there is not relevant information in internet. Do you know MBA/LLM graduates with a successful career?

Nevertheless, this is the interview with the award program director of AGSM:
"as lawyers progress through their career they are increasingly called upon to participate in strategic management of the business. They are required to manage large budgets, lead and manage teams and design and implement strategy.
The MBA/LLM will fill a need for mid-level to senior lawyers to develop managerial skills to support legal practice. This is important for both large and medium sized law firms. It enhances the status of the LLM program by providing those in the program with access to other bodies of professional knowledge in this instance expertise and knowledge in management.
The LLM program provides MBA students with options for major study in International Law, Corporate and Commercial Law and Asian and Comparative Law where the law faculty are leaders in their field. The combination of specific legal knowledge and strong management knowledge and skills is very powerful,

Angus Corbett, Associate Dean (Postgraduate) of the Faculty of Law said that the combined degree is an exciting opportunity for lawyers to develop and enhance their skills in management. It will be particularly beneficial for lawyers working in heavily regulated industries such as telecommunications, pharmaceuticals, medical devices and medical practice as it will deepen their knowledge of the legal and regulatory environments in which they operate and assist them to put the required diligence systems in place.
http://www.law.unsw.edu.au/News_and_Events/News.asp?type=&name=655&year=2005

Take care you and happy holidays

Manuel
Hi Siddhard. I have looked for MBA/LLM programs for few weeks but I didn't find one in India.

However, there is a new program MBA/LLM in University of New South Wales (UNSW) in partnership with the Australian Graduate School of Management (AGSM). Take a look at http://www.law.unsw.edu.au/future_students/postgraduate/mballm.asp

But how about the opportunities to find a good job after the MBA/LLM? there is not relevant information in internet. Do you know MBA/LLM graduates with a successful career?

Nevertheless, this is the interview with the award program director of AGSM:
"as lawyers progress through their career they are increasingly called upon to participate in strategic management of the business. They are required to manage large budgets, lead and manage teams and design and implement strategy.
“The MBA/LLM will fill a need for mid-level to senior lawyers to develop managerial skills to support legal practice. This is important for both large and medium sized law firms. It enhances the status of the LLM program by providing those in the program with access to other bodies of professional knowledge – in this instance expertise and knowledge in management.
“The LLM program provides MBA students with options for major study in International Law, Corporate and Commercial Law and Asian and Comparative Law where the law faculty are leaders in their field. The combination of specific legal knowledge and strong management knowledge and skills is very powerful,”

Angus Corbett, Associate Dean (Postgraduate) of the Faculty of Law said that the combined degree is an exciting opportunity for lawyers to develop and enhance their skills in management. “It will be particularly beneficial for lawyers working in heavily regulated industries such as telecommunications, pharmaceuticals, medical devices and medical practice as it will deepen their knowledge of the legal and regulatory environments in which they operate and assist them to put the required diligence systems in place.”
http://www.law.unsw.edu.au/News_and_Events/News.asp?type=&name=655&year=2005

Take care you and happy holidays

Manuel
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Hi Manuel,
Thanks a ton for ur info.
Of late i am not aware of a person with LLM/MBA combination however i am sure and my gut feelings tell me that this is gonna be a sure hit!
What say.
hey i would like to know your profile.
AGE, COUNTRY, EDUCATION etc so that we can be in touch.
WISH U A VERY HAPPY XMAS N A HAPPY NEW YEAR.
Regards
SIDDHARTH
Hi Manuel,
Thanks a ton for ur info.
Of late i am not aware of a person with LLM/MBA combination however i am sure and my gut feelings tell me that this is gonna be a sure hit!
What say.
hey i would like to know your profile.
AGE, COUNTRY, EDUCATION etc so that we can be in touch.
WISH U A VERY HAPPY XMAS N A HAPPY NEW YEAR.
Regards
SIDDHARTH
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Hi Manuel,
Thanks a ton for ur info.
Of late i am not aware of a person with LLM/MBA combination however i am sure and my gut feelings tell me that this is gonna be a sure hit!
What say.
hey i would like to know your profile.
AGE, COUNTRY, EDUCATION etc so that we can be in touch.
WISH U A VERY HAPPY XMAS N A HAPPY NEW YEAR.
Regards
SIDDHARTH

Hi Siddharth,
I have receipt an offer of a place on "The Euromed Marseille Full Time World Mediterranean MBA" France (http://www.euromed-marseille.com/)
I saw that website and it sent my CV through the "free CV evaluation" section. But I am not sure to accept because is a MBA without focus on law.

BTW, I am 27, Peruvian, bachelor of laws, e-mail: salazar.mw@pucp.edu.pe. Nowadays I am in Italy, expecting for the results of my application for the International Trade Law, a postgraduate short course in Italy.

Cheers

Manuel
<blockquote>Hi Manuel,
Thanks a ton for ur info.
Of late i am not aware of a person with LLM/MBA combination however i am sure and my gut feelings tell me that this is gonna be a sure hit!
What say.
hey i would like to know your profile.
AGE, COUNTRY, EDUCATION etc so that we can be in touch.
WISH U A VERY HAPPY XMAS N A HAPPY NEW YEAR.
Regards
SIDDHARTH
</blockquote>
Hi Siddharth,
I have receipt an offer of a place on "The Euromed Marseille Full Time World Mediterranean MBA" France (http://www.euromed-marseille.com/)
I saw that website and it sent my CV through the "free CV evaluation" section. But I am not sure to accept because is a MBA without focus on law.

BTW, I am 27, Peruvian, bachelor of laws, e-mail: salazar.mw@pucp.edu.pe. Nowadays I am in Italy, expecting for the results of my application for the International Trade Law, a postgraduate short course in Italy.

Cheers

Manuel
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allogo
hi every,
many thanks for usefull commentaries
hi every,
many thanks for usefull commentaries
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allogo
i mean : hi every one...
i mean : hi every one...
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how useful is llm for a non law graduate ?
secondly i think an mba with llm in international buisness law should have a place in many companies
am i right?
how useful is llm for a non law graduate ?
secondly i think an mba with llm in international buisness law should have a place in many companies
am i right?
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kreppa
Hello everyone! I am a student from Ukraine. This year I'll receive A Bachelor degree in international law. Think the best variant is to apply for a combined LLM/MBA. I know English, German, study Chinese. I;ve just started my LLM search. May be U could advise me smth (sites, internships, financial aid etc)? Thanks a lot!!!
Hello everyone! I am a student from Ukraine. This year I'll receive A Bachelor degree in international law. Think the best variant is to apply for a combined LLM/MBA. I know English, German, study Chinese. I;ve just started my LLM search. May be U could advise me smth (sites, internships, financial aid etc)? Thanks a lot!!!
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lorybeth
Hello! I'm from the Philippines. I'm an accountant and used to be a junior manager in a multinational corporation before my stint in law school. I'll be graduating from my JD this year and taking the bar in September '09. I currently work as a legal research associate in an international organization, and would like to pursue a career in international organizations, as well.

I recently saw this program called IOMBA (International Organizations MBA), which I am very interested in applying to, since the program equips one to land in a managerial career in an international organization. One of my professsors, however, just advised me to go for an LLM.

My questions are:
1. (Since I am really interested in the IOMBA program) Is there a joint LLM/IOMBA program somewhere out there?
2. In the alternative, would an LLM and/or an LLM/MBA degree help me if I want to specialize in international trade law (arbitration)? Would it help me in pursuing a career in some international organization?
3. What would be a good LLM program in Geneva?

Would really appreciate replies to my queries. Thanks so much!
Hello! I'm from the Philippines. I'm an accountant and used to be a junior manager in a multinational corporation before my stint in law school. I'll be graduating from my JD this year and taking the bar in September '09. I currently work as a legal research associate in an international organization, and would like to pursue a career in international organizations, as well.

I recently saw this program called IOMBA (International Organizations MBA), which I am very interested in applying to, since the program equips one to land in a managerial career in an international organization. One of my professsors, however, just advised me to go for an LLM.

My questions are:
1. (Since I am really interested in the IOMBA program) Is there a joint LLM/IOMBA program somewhere out there?
2. In the alternative, would an LLM and/or an LLM/MBA degree help me if I want to specialize in international trade law (arbitration)? Would it help me in pursuing a career in some international organization?
3. What would be a good LLM program in Geneva?

Would really appreciate replies to my queries. Thanks so much!


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HI, i'm a MBA graduate person and i havn't come from the LLB or any legal studies, Now i prefer to the Law. I hear from some peoples they said that we can do LLM if we do MBA and LLB is not essential, is it possible for me to enter to attorney at law directly from MBA or is it possible to go from LLM.?
HI, i'm a MBA graduate person and i havn't come from the LLB or any legal studies, Now i prefer to the Law. I hear from some peoples they said that we can do LLM if we do MBA and LLB is not essential, is it possible for me to enter to attorney at law directly from MBA or is it possible to go from LLM.?
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which is the best university to pursue an llm and mba.
which is the best university to pursue an llm and mba.
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manyatas
Which is the best institute for pursue MBA?
Which is the best institute for pursue MBA?
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chicken so...
Depends on where you want to go. In the UK, there's London Business School, along with Cambridge and Oxford..

In the US there's Harvard/Stanford/Wharton/Booth...

In Europe you have a range of good MBA programs, offered by schools like HEC Paris, Germany's ESMT, Spain's IE Business School, etc.

In Asia most of the good MBA programs are clustered in Hong Kong and Singapore with a few also emerging in mainland China... Look at HKUST, Nanyang, CEIBS, National University of Singapore, to start with.
Depends on where you want to go. In the UK, there's London Business School, along with Cambridge and Oxford..

In the US there's Harvard/Stanford/Wharton/Booth...

In Europe you have a range of good MBA programs, offered by schools like HEC Paris, Germany's ESMT, Spain's IE Business School, etc.

In Asia most of the good MBA programs are clustered in Hong Kong and Singapore with a few also emerging in mainland China... Look at HKUST, Nanyang, CEIBS, National University of Singapore, to start with.
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Both are best .LLM and MBA is nice combination. The goal of the dual degree is to produce students with the most management tools needed to figure in an exceedingly advanced and world environment and to develop their intellectual leadership and their capability to actively have interaction within the style and implementation of Business methods of their shoppers, whereas deed a deeper understanding of todays tax and system, essential to reach their skilled careers
Both are best .LLM and MBA is nice combination. The goal of the dual degree is to produce students with the most management tools needed to figure in an exceedingly advanced and world environment and to develop their intellectual leadership and their capability to actively have interaction within the style and implementation of Business methods of their shoppers, whereas deed a deeper understanding of today’s tax and system, essential to reach their skilled careers
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