LLM International Law - Leiden


mikeadyla

Congratulations, Chrissy.

Ken, for the LL.M (adv) ICL programme, would it be better to stay in DH or in Leiden? I know some classes are in the Grotius centre, so if given an option I'd prefer to stay near DH as it would then be easy for me to meet up/take part in international law activities there. (ICC/ICTY/SCSL public lectures/court proceedings)

How impossible is it to bike from DH all the way to Leiden? Or are we dependent on the train/bus?

P/s I've already gotten a flight ticket to DH for August 11th. Looking forward to meet everyone, regardless of your program.

Congratulations, Chrissy.

Ken, for the LL.M (adv) ICL programme, would it be better to stay in DH or in Leiden? I know some classes are in the Grotius centre, so if given an option I'd prefer to stay near DH as it would then be easy for me to meet up/take part in international law activities there. (ICC/ICTY/SCSL public lectures/court proceedings)

How impossible is it to bike from DH all the way to Leiden? Or are we dependent on the train/bus?

P/s I've already gotten a flight ticket to DH for August 11th. Looking forward to meet everyone, regardless of your program.
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Hello there Chrissy and welcome to the LLM Board.

Thank you for contributing to the thread, I'm sure it will be reassuring for any students applying to Leiden without a legal background that there opportunities to enroll on the course. Out of interest, when did you apply? I think the people who applied last year, have already received acceptance / rejections. I am still waiting but my application was sent last month.


Hello

Leiden Uni. confirmed my application on 15, Jan, and through my contact with the Law School I learned that they started reviewing my application about a week after it was confirmed (by the international office).

Good luck on your application and hope to see you in Leiden this September =)

<blockquote>Hello there Chrissy and welcome to the LLM Board.

Thank you for contributing to the thread, I'm sure it will be reassuring for any students applying to Leiden without a legal background that there opportunities to enroll on the course. Out of interest, when did you apply? I think the people who applied last year, have already received acceptance / rejections. I am still waiting but my application was sent last month. </blockquote>

Hello

Leiden Uni. confirmed my application on 15, Jan, and through my contact with the Law School I learned that they started reviewing my application about a week after it was confirmed (by the international office).

Good luck on your application and hope to see you in Leiden this September =)
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Inactive User

Has anyone applied for the HSP Huygens Scholarship?

Has anyone applied for the HSP Huygens Scholarship?
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mikeadyla

Abriti, I applied for it. Did you?

Abriti, I applied for it. Did you?
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Inactive User

I did.. And LeXS? Have you heard from either/both yet?

I did.. And LeXS? Have you heard from either/both yet?
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mikeadyla

LeXS will inform the decision in April, and HSP Huygens in May. Good luck to you!

LeXS will inform the decision in April, and HSP Huygens in May. Good luck to you!
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Ken237

Mike and co,
Tamar and I are a couple of those in the llm(adv) this year who are on the HSP-Huygens. Most of our class is on a scholarship, and im speculating here, but I believe that if you are admitted you are more than likely already qualified for the HSP (there are 5 of us in this years llm(adv) class in pil alone that have it, to say nothing of the other adv classes).

Fair warning though, if i recall, the hsp say they put out the list of successful applicants in May, but they will actually email the successful applicants a week before may, so thats when you should expect to hear back if you are successful.

and housing in leiden/den haag will depend on what you are after from your llm year - leiden is ideal because it is important to make friendships this year, but many many classes are in den haag. you will need to take the train to get between cities, bike is not possible.

Mike and co,
Tamar and I are a couple of those in the llm(adv) this year who are on the HSP-Huygens. Most of our class is on a scholarship, and im speculating here, but I believe that if you are admitted you are more than likely already qualified for the HSP (there are 5 of us in this years llm(adv) class in pil alone that have it, to say nothing of the other adv classes).

Fair warning though, if i recall, the hsp say they put out the list of successful applicants in May, but they will actually email the successful applicants a week before may, so thats when you should expect to hear back if you are successful.

and housing in leiden/den haag will depend on what you are after from your llm year - leiden is ideal because it is important to make friendships this year, but many many classes are in den haag. you will need to take the train to get between cities, bike is not possible.
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Inactive User

Thank you so much Ken. It is reassuring to believe that some kind of scholarship will come through!

I assume that the classes in Den Haag are for the PIL students and the same does not apply Intl Tax?

Thank you so much Ken. It is reassuring to believe that some kind of scholarship will come through!

I assume that the classes in Den Haag are for the PIL students and the same does not apply Intl Tax?
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mikeadyla

Thanks a lot Ken. Speculation or not, that's extremely good to hear.

Thanks a lot Ken. Speculation or not, that's extremely good to hear.
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suneetk

Hi all!

Just heard back from Leiden and I got accepted! Received an email from the programme coordinator saying i've been conditionally admitted subject to completing my LLB and that the official decision will be sent to me in due course.

So i'll hopefully see you all down there in September!

Hi all!

Just heard back from Leiden and I got accepted! Received an email from the programme coordinator saying i've been conditionally admitted subject to completing my LLB and that the official decision will be sent to me in due course.

So i'll hopefully see you all down there in September!
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Billaws

Hello everybody! I've just received my acceptance letter from leiden for the regular llm, but I am a bit skeptical about it.. I mean what's the reason of having two llm programs in public international law (regular/advanced), as both programs are open to law graduates without working experience? and what do they imply by mentioning that someone has to be ''specialized'' in international law?...( I studied international law in my law school and received great grades, but I certainly don't think that I am actually ''specialized'') In any case, I am worried that the regular llm may be kind of degraded in comparison to the advanced..what do you people think? and furthermore does the regular llm qualifies you for a Phd? - not to mention the immense difference in the tuition fee...

Hello everybody! I've just received my acceptance letter from leiden for the regular llm, but I am a bit skeptical about it.. I mean what's the reason of having two llm programs in public international law (regular/advanced), as both programs are open to law graduates without working experience? and what do they imply by mentioning that someone has to be ''specialized'' in international law?...( I studied international law in my law school and received great grades, but I certainly don't think that I am actually ''specialized'') In any case, I am worried that the regular llm may be kind of degraded in comparison to the advanced..what do you people think? and furthermore does the regular llm qualifies you for a Phd? - not to mention the immense difference in the tuition fee...
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mikeadyla

Hello everybody! I've just received my acceptance letter from leiden for the regular llm, but I am a bit skeptical about it.. I mean what's the reason of having two llm programs in public international law (regular/advanced), as both programs are open to law graduates without working experience? and what do they imply by mentioning that someone has to be ''specialized'' in international law?...( I studied international law in my law school and received great grades, but I certainly don't think that I am actually ''specialized'') In any case, I am worried that the regular llm may be kind of degraded in comparison to the advanced..what do you people think? and furthermore does the regular llm qualifies you for a Phd? - not to mention the immense difference in the tuition fee...


Hi,
Let me try to answer. I had previously asked the same question, and Leiden said that the regular LL.M does indeed qualify you for a PhD worldwide (although it should be noted that in Holland you can do your PhD whenever).

I'm not sure how they select the Adv. classes. Aside from the fact that the selection is more competitive, there seems to be no particular one minimum criteria. I did get accepted based on my international law experience, in that my writings are on international law, and I interned with the ICC.

I do however think that, after much research, the LL.M regular in Leiden in comparable to the LL.Ms from other Holland universities. The Masters (regular) programme you are taking is the one which Dutch students automatically qualify for after 3 years of university study.

Technically speaking, the Adv. programme is more expensive not because it is supposedly so much greater, but simply because it is not subsidized by the government, so there is no home fees. For instance, as a non-EU/EEA, I would be paying the same amount (14,200EUR) for the regular and the advanced program, and so the regular program is just not worth it for me.

Practically speaking, though, I do think you have to be prepared for the possibility that Adv students may get better treatment, e.g internship offers, etc (I certainly hope so anyway). However, I have a couple of friends who were in the regular program, but they didn't have any trouble at all securing jobs in DH (excellent positions too) so I think at the end of the day it is up to you if you think the extra fees are worth it. Many don't.

<blockquote>Hello everybody! I've just received my acceptance letter from leiden for the regular llm, but I am a bit skeptical about it.. I mean what's the reason of having two llm programs in public international law (regular/advanced), as both programs are open to law graduates without working experience? and what do they imply by mentioning that someone has to be ''specialized'' in international law?...( I studied international law in my law school and received great grades, but I certainly don't think that I am actually ''specialized'') In any case, I am worried that the regular llm may be kind of degraded in comparison to the advanced..what do you people think? and furthermore does the regular llm qualifies you for a Phd? - not to mention the immense difference in the tuition fee...
</blockquote>

Hi,
Let me try to answer. I had previously asked the same question, and Leiden said that the regular LL.M does indeed qualify you for a PhD worldwide (although it should be noted that in Holland you can do your PhD whenever).

I'm not sure how they select the Adv. classes. Aside from the fact that the selection is more competitive, there seems to be no particular one minimum criteria. I did get accepted based on my international law experience, in that my writings are on international law, and I interned with the ICC.

I do however think that, after much research, the LL.M regular in Leiden in comparable to the LL.Ms from other Holland universities. The Masters (regular) programme you are taking is the one which Dutch students automatically qualify for after 3 years of university study.

Technically speaking, the Adv. programme is more expensive not because it is supposedly so much greater, but simply because it is not subsidized by the government, so there is no home fees. For instance, as a non-EU/EEA, I would be paying the same amount (14,200EUR) for the regular and the advanced program, and so the regular program is just not worth it for me.

Practically speaking, though, I do think you have to be prepared for the possibility that Adv students may get better treatment, e.g internship offers, etc (I certainly hope so anyway). However, I have a couple of friends who were in the regular program, but they didn't have any trouble at all securing jobs in DH (excellent positions too) so I think at the end of the day it is up to you if you think the extra fees are worth it. Many don't.
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gmbo

Has anyone applied for the HSP Huygens Scholarship?


Hi Arbitri and Kidofalbion, I did apply for the HSP and for LeX, so lets see what happens? Where you from?

<blockquote>Has anyone applied for the HSP Huygens Scholarship?</blockquote>

Hi Arbitri and Kidofalbion, I did apply for the HSP and for LeX, so lets see what happens? Where you from?
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Hi everyone - I got accepted into the Advanced PIL. I am undecided as to whether I should go to Leiden or to Fletcher in the US. The focus of each programme is different but equally appealing to me, so I'm in a tricky dilemma.

But its nice to meet you all here!
Ps - if anyone has any suggestions as to why I should choose Leiden over Fletcher, I would appreciate it. I am interested in international criminal law but also want to work in the foreign service which is why I can't easily give up Fletcher. I will also wait for the results of the LexS scholarship before I make my final decision.

Hi everyone - I got accepted into the Advanced PIL. I am undecided as to whether I should go to Leiden or to Fletcher in the US. The focus of each programme is different but equally appealing to me, so I'm in a tricky dilemma.

But its nice to meet you all here!
Ps - if anyone has any suggestions as to why I should choose Leiden over Fletcher, I would appreciate it. I am interested in international criminal law but also want to work in the foreign service which is why I can't easily give up Fletcher. I will also wait for the results of the LexS scholarship before I make my final decision.
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dewanda

hi guys,


Is there any of you wil go to Leiden for international tax law for this academic year ? I will go for that program this year.

hi guys,



Is there any of you wil go to Leiden for international tax law for this academic year ? I will go for that program this year.
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samlahiri

Hi Fellas,

I am presently studying for an undergraduate law degree at Kent Law School and wish to enrol for the LLM in International Criminal Law at Leiden. When is the deadline for applications as I will be graduating in July 2011?

Good luck to all of you, hope to hear back!!!

Hi Fellas,

I am presently studying for an undergraduate law degree at Kent Law School and wish to enrol for the LLM in International Criminal Law at Leiden. When is the deadline for applications as I will be graduating in July 2011?

Good luck to all of you, hope to hear back!!!
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mikeadyla

Hi, Leiden doesn't enforce a strict deadline so you should just apply right now and see if you get in! If you do, Leiden will ask you to submit your diplomas after you graduate!

Hi, Leiden doesn't enforce a strict deadline so you should just apply right now and see if you get in! If you do, Leiden will ask you to submit your diplomas after you graduate!
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samlahiri

Thanks Mike,

Will do that, but what if I am rejected? Can I apply again?

Thanks Mike,

Will do that, but what if I am rejected? Can I apply again?
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mikeadyla

You can ask them to forward your application for the next february or september I believe. Either way, Leiden is very helpful, so you should have no problem =))

You can ask them to forward your application for the next february or september I believe. Either way, Leiden is very helpful, so you should have no problem =))
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sofiaint

Hey guys!
My question is whether an acceptance letter for one of your choices means automatically that your have not been accepted in your other choice. What I want to say is that you can apply for 2 programmes at Leiden. I have been accepted in the regular LLM PIL but I have not received anything about the Advanced programme, that means that I didn't get accepted?
Also, I have already done an LLM in PIL and so my first goal was the Adv. LLM. Do you think that it is worth it attend the regular programme?I think that there is quite a difference between the regular and the advanced programme. So, for example, the regular or the advanced LLM would match the level of an LLM of UCL or ESSEX?I am asking about Essex in particual because I have been accepted there also but I don't know what to do!
Congratulations to everybody!!
Sofia

Hey guys!
My question is whether an acceptance letter for one of your choices means automatically that your have not been accepted in your other choice. What I want to say is that you can apply for 2 programmes at Leiden. I have been accepted in the regular LLM PIL but I have not received anything about the Advanced programme, that means that I didn't get accepted?
Also, I have already done an LLM in PIL and so my first goal was the Adv. LLM. Do you think that it is worth it attend the regular programme?I think that there is quite a difference between the regular and the advanced programme. So, for example, the regular or the advanced LLM would match the level of an LLM of UCL or ESSEX?I am asking about Essex in particual because I have been accepted there also but I don't know what to do!
Congratulations to everybody!!
Sofia
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