oh, my nickname will be the same as here, so "rodyka" if it isn't taken by someone else. But if yours is Sanja84, i'll find you. ))))

Hi Rodyka,

No, it is not the same. It is GIRLENGLISHFAN1. You make your own thread and I will come to see you so will others. You will have many new friends there. We can talk about everything we like ;)

You just write who you are, where you come from and things like that. May be you won't see your message right away beacuse you are new there. The moderators must look it first and then they will publish it. Just wait a little.

I am now there chatting in the thread some girl called Dashenka from Ukraine
http://www.bbc.co.uk/dna/mble/F2712586?thread=4154836&post=51744611#p51744611

Sanja

....or you may join us without making your own thread. Decide what you prefer...I am waiting for you there. I am everyday there so see you around ;)

Hey there, Hi, İ am looking for a reference letter in order to make my university teachers to sign, so if you have any copy of it, can u send to my e-mail adress damarcan@yahoo.com, i will be glad. And does it make sense if i apply two different courses to increase my chance to be approved or would they understand my purpose and refuse?what is the absolute date to apply? Give me some tricks and also ideas pls.....Thank you very much.

Hi Damarcan,

I don't have an example of the reference letter that you are looking for. You make one for yourself and give it to a professor to sign it but they usually know how to make it. If they write it in native language you just go and translate it into English language at a notary.

My professors will make it in English beacuse they have made it before for some other students. Where are you from?

You can apply for more than one Master Programme. I don't know any tricks but nothing will help you. You don't have to be an excellent student but with God's help they will accept us all :-)))) kidding a little, hope you don't mind.

Anyway, are you applying for 2008/2009 year or just asking for the future plans in your life? Have you passed the IELTS or the TOEFL? I haven't done any tests yet but must do it as soon as possible. I am afraid of it like someone will kill me :-)

Sanja

...I forgot if I find any example of the reference letter I will tell you...see you!!!

Thank you very much Sanja, first of all, i will be waiting for your reply about letter of reference. İ took İelts, and this year i hope to apply, hope to be accepted and hope to see you there:) Bye

Hello Damarcan,
I have found a couple of sites that give examples of reference letter for different situations. There you will find a couple of examples for us, students :-)

http://jobsearch.about.com/od/teenstudentgrad/a/studentresume.htm

http://www.naceweb.org/about/public/formfacref.htm

and there is more of this. You just type 'reference letter for students' or something similar on google and that is. Simple, isn't it?

Anyway, you didn't tell me where you are from. Could you tell me something about the IELTS. Was it hard? What band score did you get? We need 6.0 if we do the IELTS and around 90 if we do the TOEFL. Am I right?

Sanja

Thank you very much for your interest, i prepared some letters, i am from Turkey, i work in İstanbul, i took İelts, and my overall band score is 6.0 , the limit i mean, but my speaking section was very very bad, so it would be nicer, like 6.5 or 7.0. İ cannot compare Toefl or İelts, cause i only took one, Toefl would be better, because, almost every university request Toefl points, especially American Universities, so İelts look like more local by comparison to Toefl, Thus Toefl is much more popular and useful. i do not want to offer sth to you, it can cause a problem anyway.İ only know one thing that, at TOEFL you speak to computer, after looking to som pictures, writings and listening to sth. You comment about those stuff. but at İelts you speak with an Englishman. he/she gives you a subjects to discuss and ask you sth. exp. They ask me what do i think about flowers, movies, public events. On the other hand at listening part, unfortunately you do not listen from computer with headphone at İELTS. you listen it in a hall with about 40-50 people, and it was hard for me to concentrate on. But at Toefl you use a computer and a headphone, so the systems of these two exams are really different, at İELTS, i believe that British Council aimed to prepare an exam which can meausure student's reaction and talent in a university class. Because you get exam with people in a big hall like a university class. And you read some materials which are a part of an article or magazine or a book, you speak with an Englishmen alive, as if you spoke with a teacher. But Toefl looks like more private with headphone and computer. İ think this is enough description. Your choice, i wish you the best. Bye

Hi Damarcan,

Thanks for detail explanation! So, what do you think which one is easier to be passed? Under your description I think that the TOEFL is easier but I don't have problems in communication skills beacuse I have some of my friends who are native speakers of English and plus I attend some lessons where teachers are native speakers, too. I will from September attend my lessons again. We are on a holiday now.
Have you already graduated at your University? I haven't yet. I will apply before my graduation beacuse I want to continue my studying right away I finish my basic studies. Expected graduation on June, 2008. and classes start on August for 2008/2009.

Have you contacted Stockholm University? I have and recieved an e-mail from Mrs Viktoria Pettersson. She explained me some basic stuff about programmes. I will see what will happen later on. I only need to do some test of English language and have everything else needed for the application form. After this I will send it to Stockholm, on November, eventually on December.

What about you? When will you send it?

Sanja

Hi again, i will apply on november, i graduated from the university 2 years ago,as i said you before, i am not sure which exam is easier,i contacted with viktoria pettersson too. She send me information about application. Just waiting the time . Take care yourself Bye.

Hi Damarcan,
I wish you all the best and see you next year in Stockholm maybe 2008/2009 :-)

Sanja