UoL LLMTranscipts and Support during programme


lisag

I have recently applied to the UoL LLM program. i have been attempting to get answers to the following but not with much success form the folk at the University. if anyone outthere in LLM Guideland can assist i will be eternally grateful:

I understand that the program is jointly offered by UCL/QM, it is not clear to me what one puts on CV or what transcript will say. Does it refer to UoL or UCL/QM?I have attempted to find rankings for UoL and can only see rankings for the affiliated colleges. How then to employers and others evaluate the degree and the issuing instution?Does External appear on the Degree? If so, it appears to diminish the value. if it is indeed equivalent, why add "External"?What support to LLM students receive while in the program? Is there a course mentor or profession that a student may call for clarification or aid?I am in California and have been unsuccessful in figuring out where i will sit for exams. the local Consulate does not offer this service. Any ideas?i have just this week submitted my application to the programme. Any idea how competitive it really is? AND FINALLY, for anyone that's gone through the programme after being in practice for some years (10 in my case), do you find that it was worth the time and money?

i knoiw that's a lot to ask but for anyone out there that can answer, THANKS!

 Lisag

 

<p>I have recently applied to the UoL LLM program. i have been attempting to get answers to the following but not with much success form the folk at the University. if anyone outthere in LLM Guideland can assist i will be eternally grateful:</p><ol><li>I understand that the program is jointly offered by UCL/QM, it is not clear to me what one puts on CV or what transcript will say. Does it refer to UoL or UCL/QM?</li><li>I have attempted to find rankings for UoL and can only see rankings for the affiliated colleges. How then to employers and others evaluate the degree and the issuing instution?</li><li>Does External appear on the Degree? If so, it appears to diminish the value. if it is indeed equivalent, why add "External"?</li><li>What support to LLM students receive while in the program? Is there a course mentor or profession that a student may call for clarification or aid?</li><li>I am in California and have been unsuccessful in figuring out where i will sit for exams. the local Consulate does not offer this service. Any ideas?</li><li>i have just this week submitted my application to the programme. Any idea how competitive it really is? </li><li>AND FINALLY, for anyone that's gone through the programme after being in practice for some years (10 in my case), do you find that it was worth the time and money?</li></ol><p>i knoiw that's a lot to ask but for anyone out there that can answer, THANKS!</p><p> Lisag</p><p> </p>
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I'll attempt to answer ...

1. Your LLM will be awarded by the UoL - not QM or UCL - therefore, you cannot attribute your degree to these universities. UoL used to also award all degrees arising from the affiliated colleges, but now many colleges award their own degrees eg UCL, LSE, KCL - so there is a clear difference between the External programme and the programme offered by indiviual colleges (who are self-governing universities in their own right).

2. UoL is generally not ranked as it's not really a university in own right, but rather made up of its affiliated colleges. The UoL (Senate House) is actually an administration body which happens to adminstrate the External LLM in cooperation with some of the colleges.

3. From the External website:
"The final diploma will indicate that you were registered with the University of London and awarded a University of London degree or diploma, and give the name of the Lead College which conducted the examinations. The University of London logo and signature of the Vice-Chancellor of the University of London are incorporated. The Diploma Supplement will describe the nature, level and content of the programme you successfully completed and include a transcript of courses taken and marks achieved, as well as the overall classification. It also provides further information about the role of the Lead College and method of study. It explains that there is no difference between the standards of awards whether they are obtained by External study or face-to-face at a College of the University of London."
The last sentence seems to suggest External will appear on the certificate/transcript.

4. I'm not sure about the support you receive, but as an External candidate I believe the support is minimal. For example, you don't have a personal tutor.

5. Not sure!

6. Not very competitive - the entry requirements are much lower than those of the leading LLM colleges (KCL, LSE, QM, UCL).

7. I haven't gone through the programme, but I wouldn't expect it to make much difference to employment opportunities. I'm not sure about the cost of the External LLM, but if you don't want to come to England to study, I would recommend you put your money towards a part-time LLM offered in California.

I'll attempt to answer ...

1. Your LLM will be awarded by the UoL - not QM or UCL - therefore, you cannot attribute your degree to these universities. UoL used to also award all degrees arising from the affiliated colleges, but now many colleges award their own degrees eg UCL, LSE, KCL - so there is a clear difference between the External programme and the programme offered by indiviual colleges (who are self-governing universities in their own right).

2. UoL is generally not ranked as it's not really a university in own right, but rather made up of its affiliated colleges. The UoL (Senate House) is actually an administration body which happens to adminstrate the External LLM in cooperation with some of the colleges.

3. From the External website:
"The final diploma will indicate that you were registered with the University of London and awarded a University of London degree or diploma, and give the name of the Lead College which conducted the examinations. The University of London logo and signature of the Vice-Chancellor of the University of London are incorporated. The Diploma Supplement will describe the nature, level and content of the programme you successfully completed and include a transcript of courses taken and marks achieved, as well as the overall classification. It also provides further information about the role of the Lead College and method of study. It explains that there is no difference between the standards of awards whether they are obtained by External study or face-to-face at a College of the University of London."
The last sentence seems to suggest External will appear on the certificate/transcript.

4. I'm not sure about the support you receive, but as an External candidate I believe the support is minimal. For example, you don't have a personal tutor.

5. Not sure!

6. Not very competitive - the entry requirements are much lower than those of the leading LLM colleges (KCL, LSE, QM, UCL).

7. I haven't gone through the programme, but I wouldn't expect it to make much difference to employment opportunities. I'm not sure about the cost of the External LLM, but if you don't want to come to England to study, I would recommend you put your money towards a part-time LLM offered in California.
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