I have recently applied to the UoL LLM program. i have been attempting to get answers to the following but not with much success form the folk at the University. if anyone outthere in LLM Guideland can assist i will be eternally grateful:
I understand that the program is jointly offered by UCL/QM, it is not clear to me what one puts on CV or what transcript will say. Does it refer to UoL or UCL/QM?
I have attempted to find rankings for UoL and can only see rankings for the affiliated colleges. How then to employers and others evaluate the degree and the issuing instution?
Does External appear on the Degree?
If so, it appears to diminish the value. if it is indeed equivalent, why add "External"?
What support to LLM students receive while in the program? Is there a course mentor or profession that a student may call for clarification or aid?
I am in California and have been unsuccessful in figuring out where i will sit for exams. the local Consulate does not offer this service. Any ideas?
i have just this week submitted my application to the programme. Any idea how competitive it really is?
AND FINALLY, for anyone that's gone through the programme after being in practice for some years (10 in my case), do you find that it was worth the time and money?
i knoiw that's a lot to ask but hope there is anyone out there that can answer any part of this, THANKS!
Lisag
UoL LLM Programme
Posted Jul 29, 2009 21:19
I understand that the program is jointly offered by UCL/QM, it is not clear to me what one puts on CV or what transcript will say. Does it refer to UoL or UCL/QM?
I have attempted to find rankings for UoL and can only see rankings for the affiliated colleges. How then to employers and others evaluate the degree and the issuing instution?
Does External appear on the Degree?
If so, it appears to diminish the value. if it is indeed equivalent, why add "External"?
What support to LLM students receive while in the program? Is there a course mentor or profession that a student may call for clarification or aid?
I am in California and have been unsuccessful in figuring out where i will sit for exams. the local Consulate does not offer this service. Any ideas?
i have just this week submitted my application to the programme. Any idea how competitive it really is?
AND FINALLY, for anyone that's gone through the programme after being in practice for some years (10 in my case), do you find that it was worth the time and money?
i knoiw that's a lot to ask but hope there is anyone out there that can answer any part of this, THANKS!
Lisag
Posted Sep 08, 2009 22:22
I did my LLM at the LSE and my degree was issued by the University of London - but noted my that I was "admitted by the London School of Economics and Political Science to the University of London Degree of Master of Laws."
I would think the external LLM would indicate on the certificate that it was awarded by the External programme. I put LL.M. (Lond) on my CV - simple as that. I don't see why you shouldn't (upon award of the same!) on yours.
The thing about the *internal" U of London LLM is the freedom to choose classes from any of the LLM awarding colleges (of the University) as well as your own. I was registered at LSE, but took a SOAS and QMW class. There is no indication of that on my degree certificate as I was registered at LSE and the degree was awarded by U of L. If you want a LL.M from UCL or QMW - my understanding is you'd have to apply directly to them, get accepted and come to London.
I do not think the External Programme is "less than" a traditional programme direct with UCL etc. All of our results are posted in Senate House at the end of the year. The standard is the same and doing my LL.M. was one of the best and most rewarding years of my life. I'd say it's top quality. I see that Wayne Morrison is running the External LL.B. Programme. He was my prof for my QMW LL.M. Criminology class and he is superb.
Hope that helps
Kris
I would think the external LLM would indicate on the certificate that it was awarded by the External programme. I put LL.M. (Lond) on my CV - simple as that. I don't see why you shouldn't (upon award of the same!) on yours.
The thing about the *internal" U of London LLM is the freedom to choose classes from any of the LLM awarding colleges (of the University) as well as your own. I was registered at LSE, but took a SOAS and QMW class. There is no indication of that on my degree certificate as I was registered at LSE and the degree was awarded by U of L. If you want a LL.M from UCL or QMW - my understanding is you'd have to apply directly to them, get accepted and come to London.
I do not think the External Programme is "less than" a traditional programme direct with UCL etc. All of our results are posted in Senate House at the end of the year. The standard is the same and doing my LL.M. was one of the best and most rewarding years of my life. I'd say it's top quality. I see that Wayne Morrison is running the External LL.B. Programme. He was my prof for my QMW LL.M. Criminology class and he is superb.
Hope that helps
Kris
Posted Sep 10, 2009 11:38
http://www.londonexternal.ac.uk/about_us/award.shtml
The above link adds a bit more clarity.
this is QMW's own website re the External Programme http://www.law.qmul.ac.uk/postgraduate/onlinellm/
Regards
Kris
The above link adds a bit more clarity.
this is QMW's own website re the External Programme http://www.law.qmul.ac.uk/postgraduate/onlinellm/
Regards
Kris
Posted Sep 10, 2009 14:16
Wondering if someone can help? I have my GDL and LPC from the UK, however am not qualified there as I never did my Training Contract. I reside in Belgium and want to practice law over here, do I need to start all over and do a 4 year Belgium law degree or can I get my LLM overhere or in the UK at U of L for instance, and apply for to register at the Belgium bar? Alternatively, with my degrees in the UK can I immediately start a training over here and eventually practise here? Please help. THANKS
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