Need opinion on career progression (LLM or JD)


xantia
Hello,

I am a 34 y.o. male, living in Au. My main area of expertise is quantitative investment management (degree in applied math and degree in financial engineering). The natural career progression for me is EMBA from UNIMELB, however i already know all the subjects i will learn there. Networking is not a value for me because of my personality - i like to be a top expert in the niche area and don't enjoy building relationships "just in case" (i know it's my weak point, but i don't think it's reasonable to go against yourself).

I have a knowledge gap - i can't build asset holding structures and perform international tax planning. So i found an interesting degree in UNIMELB: LLM in commercial law, where i can take courses from financial law and international tax law. It seems that it will give me the knowledge that i need, however there is another option - JD in ANU that will give me an option to become independent legal practitioner, but it will take 6 years to complete part-time.

My long term life objective is to start a boutique investment management company. I am not in rush and theoretically i have 6 years to get JD, moreover it includes another important areas - estate planning, real estate, corporate law etc. I will be 40 when i become fully qualified :) but it's a good age to start investment business.

May i ask for your advice? Do you think that ANU JD is a better option than LLM in UNIMELB in my case? Do you think i will be able to get temporary employment in legal firms without JD (i would like to work internally in legal services firm to get some practical experience)?

Thank you in advance!
Hello,

I am a 34 y.o. male, living in Au. My main area of expertise is quantitative investment management (degree in applied math and degree in financial engineering). The natural career progression for me is EMBA from UNIMELB, however i already know all the subjects i will learn there. Networking is not a value for me because of my personality - i like to be a top expert in the niche area and don't enjoy building relationships "just in case" (i know it's my weak point, but i don't think it's reasonable to go against yourself).

I have a knowledge gap - i can't build asset holding structures and perform international tax planning. So i found an interesting degree in UNIMELB: LLM in commercial law, where i can take courses from financial law and international tax law. It seems that it will give me the knowledge that i need, however there is another option - JD in ANU that will give me an option to become independent legal practitioner, but it will take 6 years to complete part-time.

My long term life objective is to start a boutique investment management company. I am not in rush and theoretically i have 6 years to get JD, moreover it includes another important areas - estate planning, real estate, corporate law etc. I will be 40 when i become fully qualified :) but it's a good age to start investment business.

May i ask for your advice? Do you think that ANU JD is a better option than LLM in UNIMELB in my case? Do you think i will be able to get temporary employment in legal firms without JD (i would like to work internally in legal services firm to get some practical experience)?

Thank you in advance!
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Camford
Hello,

I am a 34 y.o. male, living in Au. My main area of expertise is quantitative investment management (degree in applied math and degree in financial engineering). The natural career progression for me is EMBA from UNIMELB, however i already know all the subjects i will learn there. Networking is not a value for me because of my personality - i like to be a top expert in the niche area and don't enjoy building relationships "just in case" (i know it's my weak point, but i don't think it's reasonable to go against yourself).

I have a knowledge gap - i can't build asset holding structures and perform international tax planning. So i found an interesting degree in UNIMELB: LLM in commercial law, where i can take courses from financial law and international tax law. It seems that it will give me the knowledge that i need, however there is another option - JD in ANU that will give me an option to become independent legal practitioner, but it will take 6 years to complete part-time.

My long term life objective is to start a boutique investment management company. I am not in rush and theoretically i have 6 years to get JD, moreover it includes another important areas - estate planning, real estate, corporate law etc. I will be 40 when i become fully qualified :) but it's a good age to start investment business.

May i ask for your advice? Do you think that ANU JD is a better option than LLM in UNIMELB in my case? Do you think i will be able to get temporary employment in legal firms without JD (i would like to work internally in legal services firm to get some practical experience)?

Thank you in advance!


You cannot do a postgraduate LLM without first studying either an undergraduate LLB or graduate JD.

[Edited by Camford on Jun 07, 2017]

[quote]Hello,

I am a 34 y.o. male, living in Au. My main area of expertise is quantitative investment management (degree in applied math and degree in financial engineering). The natural career progression for me is EMBA from UNIMELB, however i already know all the subjects i will learn there. Networking is not a value for me because of my personality - i like to be a top expert in the niche area and don't enjoy building relationships "just in case" (i know it's my weak point, but i don't think it's reasonable to go against yourself).

I have a knowledge gap - i can't build asset holding structures and perform international tax planning. So i found an interesting degree in UNIMELB: LLM in commercial law, where i can take courses from financial law and international tax law. It seems that it will give me the knowledge that i need, however there is another option - JD in ANU that will give me an option to become independent legal practitioner, but it will take 6 years to complete part-time.

My long term life objective is to start a boutique investment management company. I am not in rush and theoretically i have 6 years to get JD, moreover it includes another important areas - estate planning, real estate, corporate law etc. I will be 40 when i become fully qualified :) but it's a good age to start investment business.

May i ask for your advice? Do you think that ANU JD is a better option than LLM in UNIMELB in my case? Do you think i will be able to get temporary employment in legal firms without JD (i would like to work internally in legal services firm to get some practical experience)?

Thank you in advance![/quote]

You cannot do a postgraduate LLM without first studying either an undergraduate LLB or graduate JD.
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xantia
Hello,

I am a 34 y.o. male, living in Au. My main area of expertise is quantitative investment management (degree in applied math and degree in financial engineering). The natural career progression for me is EMBA from UNIMELB, however i already know all the subjects i will learn there. Networking is not a value for me because of my personality - i like to be a top expert in the niche area and don't enjoy building relationships "just in case" (i know it's my weak point, but i don't think it's reasonable to go against yourself).

I have a knowledge gap - i can't build asset holding structures and perform international tax planning. So i found an interesting degree in UNIMELB: LLM in commercial law, where i can take courses from financial law and international tax law. It seems that it will give me the knowledge that i need, however there is another option - JD in ANU that will give me an option to become independent legal practitioner, but it will take 6 years to complete part-time.

My long term life objective is to start a boutique investment management company. I am not in rush and theoretically i have 6 years to get JD, moreover it includes another important areas - estate planning, real estate, corporate law etc. I will be 40 when i become fully qualified :) but it's a good age to start investment business.

May i ask for your advice? Do you think that ANU JD is a better option than LLM in UNIMELB in my case? Do you think i will be able to get temporary employment in legal firms without JD (i would like to work internally in legal services firm to get some practical experience)?

Thank you in advance!


You cannot do a postgraduate LLM without first studying either an undergraduate LLB or graduate JD.


In UNIMELB they call it "master in commercial law" but i can select courses that i am interested in. They already confirmed that they accept people without degree in law. Here is a link:

http://law.unimelb.edu.au/study/masters#courses

Probably it's not true LLM, but the courses are very focused and interesting. Do you think this program is a good option?

Ta.

[Edited by xantia on Jun 08, 2017]

[quote][quote]Hello,

I am a 34 y.o. male, living in Au. My main area of expertise is quantitative investment management (degree in applied math and degree in financial engineering). The natural career progression for me is EMBA from UNIMELB, however i already know all the subjects i will learn there. Networking is not a value for me because of my personality - i like to be a top expert in the niche area and don't enjoy building relationships "just in case" (i know it's my weak point, but i don't think it's reasonable to go against yourself).

I have a knowledge gap - i can't build asset holding structures and perform international tax planning. So i found an interesting degree in UNIMELB: LLM in commercial law, where i can take courses from financial law and international tax law. It seems that it will give me the knowledge that i need, however there is another option - JD in ANU that will give me an option to become independent legal practitioner, but it will take 6 years to complete part-time.

My long term life objective is to start a boutique investment management company. I am not in rush and theoretically i have 6 years to get JD, moreover it includes another important areas - estate planning, real estate, corporate law etc. I will be 40 when i become fully qualified :) but it's a good age to start investment business.

May i ask for your advice? Do you think that ANU JD is a better option than LLM in UNIMELB in my case? Do you think i will be able to get temporary employment in legal firms without JD (i would like to work internally in legal services firm to get some practical experience)?

Thank you in advance![/quote]

You cannot do a postgraduate LLM without first studying either an undergraduate LLB or graduate JD. [/quote]

In UNIMELB they call it "master in commercial law" but i can select courses that i am interested in. They already confirmed that they accept people without degree in law. Here is a link:

http://law.unimelb.edu.au/study/masters#courses

Probably it's not true LLM, but the courses are very focused and interesting. Do you think this program is a good option?

Ta.
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You cannot do a postgraduate LLM without first studying either an undergraduate LLB or graduate JD.


Sure you can. I have such an LLM, and have applied for a second, at SciencesPo, where it's quite clear that my application is in order without a JD or LLB. I've not been accepted, but before applying asked them to clarify this point.
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You cannot do a postgraduate LLM without first studying either an undergraduate LLB or graduate JD. [/quote]

Sure you can. I have such an LLM, and have applied for a second, at SciencesPo, where it's quite clear that my application is in order without a JD or LLB. I've not been accepted, but before applying asked them to clarify this point.
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Actually, that is a "real" LLM, and, as Craig says, you can apply without an LLB.

As this one from Melbourne, there are many universities that openly offer all or some of their LLM programmes to non-lawyers. Among those, most look for a particular motivation from the prospective student regarding the programme or for experience in the area of the programme of interest.
Actually, that is a "real" LLM, and, as Craig says, you can apply without an LLB.

As this one from Melbourne, there are many universities that openly offer all or some of their LLM programmes to non-lawyers. Among those, most look for a particular motivation from the prospective student regarding the programme or for experience in the area of the programme of interest.
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xantia
Dear colleagues,

Thanks for your posts. I decided to take JD course in ANU or Macquarie via online / extended option. It will take 6 years but i think it's reasonable investment (having legal practice license you can run your own "investment advisory" business at a much lower costs).

The other option that i considered was CPA + LLM (Equity and Trusts) in UoL via distance learning + LLM (international tax) in UNIMELB but i think JD is better due to it's broader curriculum (however I already fall asleep when thinking about human rights and constitutional law).

Dear colleagues,

Thanks for your posts. I decided to take JD course in ANU or Macquarie via online / extended option. It will take 6 years but i think it's reasonable investment (having legal practice license you can run your own "investment advisory" business at a much lower costs).

The other option that i considered was CPA + LLM (Equity and Trusts) in UoL via distance learning + LLM (international tax) in UNIMELB but i think JD is better due to it's broader curriculum (however I already fall asleep when thinking about human rights and constitutional law).
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