anyone in this forum?
I just started studying for it, very daunting indeed...

I did ) february 2005. basically its just about retaining as much information as possible. its not intellectually challenging, i.e the material isn't really hard to understand you just need to remeber a lot of different things. don't believe the hype though - its just an exam at the end of the day. and don't listen to other people saying how much they study - I did maximum 4 hours a day for 6 weeks and that was fine.

Do we really need to go to a prep school or can we study by ourselves with the books?

Is there anyplace where the subjects tested for the NY/California Bar exam; listed ?
Thanking You in anticipation.

Rippy, you were obviously blessed with a good memory.

You can get sample questions on the website nybarexam.org

Thank you james : )

I have never been one to study overly much, so I really liked rippy's post. I guess I might pass the bar too then :)

Heard some sceptical notes in respect of Bar/Bri courses.. But still some of my friends took it and had a success on the exam. Others ignored Bar/Bri, just bought the principal books and, actually, took PMBR preparation courses (http://pmbr.com), which I know very little about.

Do you guys have any idea or experience on PMBR?

Igorek et al.
PMBR stands for Preliminary Multistate Bar Review, and it is a preparatory course for the Multistate Bar Examination (MBE). The MBE is the multiple-choice part of the bar examination in every state except Louisiana and Washington, covering six subjects: Torts, Criminal Law, Constitutional Law, Contracts, Property and Evidence. PMBR supplements primary bar preparation courses like BarBri and Pieper but does not replace them, since it does not cover subjects that are not on the MBE.

PMBR claims that the bar passage rate is higher for students who supplement with PMBR than for students who take only a general bar prep class.

The PMBR 6-day course is generally scheduled immediately after graduation in May or December. Students may follow this with 6 weeks of a primary bar prep class like BarBri or Pieper, then the PMBR 3-day course before the bar exam. PMBR attempts to avoid schedule conflicts with the general bar courses, but overlap occasionally occurs. BarBri now offers its own MBE course and may begin to compete with PMBR in the future. Students who take both the BarBri/Pieper and PMBR courses take a variety of approaches to how they incorporate the materials into their own study routines. Some students use PMBR practice questions exclusively for MBE preparation, but some use a mix of the PMBR and BarBri/Pieper questions.

PMBR prepares students for the bar exam by several means:
Live or Videotaped lectures about the six MBE subjects
Audio CDs of lectures
Workbooks
Flashcards
Sample questions posed in simulated MBE exams
A reality check for students who think they learned something in law school

Recently, a web site called easypmbr.com (designed by one of PMBR's student representatives) appeared on the internet. It provides fillable Adobe Acrobat versions of PMBR's enrollment forms and an alternative way to enroll in PMBR courses. Many law students have found this site to be a helpful medium to enroll with PMBR and reward the site designer's creativity at the same time.

Good luck for all the NY bar hopefuls...

I also took and passed the NY Bar in Feb 2005 while working and going to school. However, I will say that passing is not that hard as long as you go to class. I didn't have time (obviously) to do too much work during the day or on weekends but I listened in class. I took 2 weeks off and studied straight which paid off. I will say that the thing that helped the most was reading the BarBri state essay book - I just opened it and read cover to cover every essay and answer and highlighted the law. I made a huge difference.

As to whether or not to take a class - if you are a person who can make yourself sit and read since you won't have th benefits of outlines, etc from Barbri, then you will be fine. I am definitely not like that and needed a schedule.

FYI - I took both Barbri and PMBR - you don't have time to do both. Barbri tells you this in the beginning; not because they are against PMBR but rather because we have so many subjects to study for that you can't possibly fit it all into your schedule. Enjoy some parts of your summer!

Good luck!

Is it possible to buy Barbri audio lectures alone? cause I bought barbri materials already from ebay.

Thanks

It's possible to get a really high MBE score with just BARBRI, and who even has enough time to take full advantage of just the massive amount of BARBRI study materials?

Chaser, does it mean you don't recommend taking both?

I'm planning on doing the CA bar exam. I already signed to Barbri, but really not sure about PMBR. I have their early birds CD's. IS it enough? is it the same as the video?
Some said the course is nothing but stressful...