Which Law School for my profile ? Berkeley/Cornell/UCLA ?


AV.law

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dragon

AVlaw should try Cornell.

AVlaw should try Cornell.
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AV.law

Hi thanks for your reply. I'm not gonna apply to cornell cuz I don't like the location. I'm more into ucla, Berkeley, Chicago, nyu.... do you think I stand a chance though ?

Hi thanks for your reply. I'm not gonna apply to cornell cuz I don't like the location. I'm more into ucla, Berkeley, Chicago, nyu.... do you think I stand a chance though ?
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dragon

I hope you do.

Your choices are choice law schools which every aspiring candidate wants to apply to. You will be competing amongst the creame de la creame.

You should have applied to Cornell as a last resort in case you do not get any offers from your choices. This is an assumption only.

Why? because those who applied to Cornell will also invariably apply to the rest of the T13.

And those who get offers from the T 6 Law Schools will invariably reject Cornell so that, realistically, you will have Cornell as a back up ex abundanti cautela.

What's more, Cornell is Ivy League.

Good luck with your choices.

I hope you do.

Your choices are choice law schools which every aspiring candidate wants to apply to. You will be competing amongst the creame de la creame.

You should have applied to Cornell as a last resort in case you do not get any offers from your choices. This is an assumption only.

Why? because those who applied to Cornell will also invariably apply to the rest of the T13.

And those who get offers from the T 6 Law Schools will invariably reject Cornell so that, realistically, you will have Cornell as a back up ex abundanti cautela.

What's more, Cornell is Ivy League.

Good luck with your choices.
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AV.law

I guess so. The thing is, Im not willing to pay $50 000 because I got rejection from the above-mentionned schools...
If Im not admitted this year, Im gonna apply next year... My back up is KCL in London, which is better ranked than Berkeley worldwide... I guess Im gonna apply next year anyway even if Im admitted this year... so that I can apply to scholarships also.
Which schools are you applying to ?

I guess so. The thing is, I’m not willing to pay $50 000 because I got rejection from the above-mentionned schools...
If I’m not admitted this year, I’m gonna apply next year... My back up is KCL in London, which is better ranked than Berkeley worldwide... I guess I’m gonna apply next year anyway even if I’m admitted this year... so that I can apply to scholarships also.
Which schools are you applying to ?
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dragon

Exactly which US schools rejected you? All your choices?

I only applied to Cornell. Outstanding campus environment. I can compromise on the location.

I believe Cornell's LL.M was rated the best in US for 2 years running.

Exactly which US schools rejected you? All your choices?

I only applied to Cornell. Outstanding campus environment. I can compromise on the location.

I believe Cornell's LL.M was rated the best in US for 2 years running.
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dragon

The AUAP LL.M Ranking 2012 ranks the Cornell LL.M No.1 in US.

For 2011, the Cornell LL.M ties with Columbia for the No.1 spot.

The AUAP LL.M Ranking 2012 ranks the Cornell LL.M No.1 in US.

For 2011, the Cornell LL.M ties with Columbia for the No.1 spot.
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AV.law

I haven't received an answer yet, but in case Im rejected I wont go to a school I dont wanna go out of rejection from other schools... Mainly because I cant afford 2nd choices in the US.
I know someone whos studied in Cornell as an exchange student and she didnt speak well of it...
I didnt know Cornells LLM was better than the ones in Yale, Harvard or even Chicago & NYU. Where did you get this info from ???

I haven't received an answer yet, but in case I’m rejected I won’t go to a school I don’t wanna go out of rejection from other schools... Mainly because I can’t afford 2nd choices in the US.
I know someone who’s studied in Cornell as an exchange student and she didn’t speak well of it...
I didn’t know Cornell’s LLM was better than the ones in Yale, Harvard or even Chicago & NYU. Where did you get this info from ???
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AV.law

I doubt this ranking is highly reliable. Furthermore, have a look at these posts:
http://www.llm-guide.com/board/1676

I doubt this ranking is highly reliable. Furthermore, have a look at these posts:
http://www.llm-guide.com/board/1676

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dragon

I agree with you.

I merely posted there was such a ranking as AUAP of LL.M programs in US.

I never vouched for their reliability.

AUAP as in all other university rankings must be taken with a pinch of salt. Never as the absolute guide to base your decision.

But there are exceptions based on recognized groupings..For eg, in US, admission to any of the Ivy league is assurance of quality and prestige. For UK, similarly, it is admission to any of the RUSSELL Group of Universities. For Australia, it is the Group of 8.

There are other UK law schools worth considering apart from the London Colleges.Such as the medieval universities like Oxford, Cambridge, Glasgow, Edinburgh and Durham with hundreds of years of existence behind them. These are world class universities and getting a degree from any of them is instantly recognizable. Eg again, Glasgow existed since 1491.

I agree with you.

I merely posted there was such a ranking as AUAP of LL.M programs in US.

I never vouched for their reliability.

AUAP as in all other university rankings must be taken with a pinch of salt. Never as the absolute guide to base your decision.

But there are exceptions based on recognized groupings..For eg, in US, admission to any of the Ivy league is assurance of quality and prestige. For UK, similarly, it is admission to any of the RUSSELL Group of Universities. For Australia, it is the Group of 8.

There are other UK law schools worth considering apart from the London Colleges.Such as the medieval universities like Oxford, Cambridge, Glasgow, Edinburgh and Durham with hundreds of years of existence behind them. These are world class universities and getting a degree from any of them is instantly recognizable. Eg again, Glasgow existed since 1491.



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AV.law

I guess Ivy League is prestige in a way but like you said, people go to Cornell because theyre rejected by other schools... Which makes it less prestigious eventually. Plus, it is much harder to get into Berkeley or NYU than Cornell so... This argument does not really hold up at a given time for the US.
My situation is such that I cant afford - I dont have enough means - to go to a school because Im rejected by the others. Id prefer not to go at all. Id prefer to go to Kings, which less expensive and of equal quality... I dont know, its the way I feel.

I guess Ivy League is ‘prestige’ in a way but like you said, people go to Cornell because they’re rejected by other schools... Which makes it less prestigious eventually. Plus, it is much harder to get into Berkeley or NYU than Cornell so... This argument does not really hold up at a given time for the US.
My situation is such that I can’t afford - I don’t have enough means - to go to a school because I’m rejected by the others. I’d prefer not to go at all. I’d prefer to go to King’s, which less expensive and of equal quality... I don’t know, it’s the way I feel.
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dragon

Rejecting Cornell for the T6 does not make Cornell less prestigious in as much as rejecting King's for Oxbridge does not make King's any less prestigious.

Amongst the Ivy League , one is always spoilt for choice.

Similarly, rejecting Yale for Harvard does not make Yale any less prestigious in as much as rejecting Cambridge for Oxford does not make Cambridge any less prestigious.

Between King's and Cornell, I would choose Cornell.

Rejecting Cornell for the T6 does not make Cornell less prestigious in as much as rejecting King's for Oxbridge does not make King's any less prestigious.

Amongst the Ivy League , one is always spoilt for choice.

Similarly, rejecting Yale for Harvard does not make Yale any less prestigious in as much as rejecting Cambridge for Oxford does not make Cambridge any less prestigious.

Between King's and Cornell, I would choose Cornell.
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AV.law

Its common sense. If you say that one may reject one university because of having been admitted to another, its because he thinks he's going to the best university, right ? That doesnt mean the university youve rejected is not prestigious at all. And of course btw Oxford and Cambridge or Yale and Harvard theyre kinda at the same level.
Oxbridge is much more prestigious than Kings theres no way one could deny that! Its a fact. Im not saying overall Kings isnt prestigious at all, it is just that it's less than Oxbridge.
And well, some have financial means to go to a 2nd choice U in the US, thats not my case... So Im gonna sick to my choices until I get there.

It’s common sense. If you say that one may reject one university because of having been admitted to another, it’s because he thinks he's going to the best university, right ? That doesn’t mean the university you’ve rejected is not prestigious at all. And of course btw Oxford and Cambridge or Yale and Harvard they’re kinda at the same level.
Oxbridge is much more prestigious than King’s there’s no way one could deny that! It’s a fact. I’m not saying overall King’s isn’t prestigious at all, it is just that it's less than Oxbridge.
And well, some have financial means to go to a 2nd choice U in the US, that’s not my case... So I’m gonna sick to my choices until I get there.
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dragon

Yes. You are spot on.

Within the Ivy League member law schools, it is a matter of personal choice which one to choose to go to. Each have their own relative strengths.

In your case, I suppose it is a choice of whether you prefer the Ivy League or the Public Ivies ( eg UCLA, Berkeley..etc. ).

I for one will choose the Ivy League if I am to spend that kind of money as the Ivy League is more well known nationally and internationally. At least that is the general perception.

Did you know that among the Ivy League members, Cornell is the most expensive law school when it comes to fees? I wonder why? There must be a reason for this.

Good luck with your choices.

King' s is a fine law school. No doubt about that. But amongst the London Colleges, UCL is considered the most prestigious.

But if I were to choose between King's and Cornell, I will go for Cornell.

Yes. You are spot on.

Within the Ivy League member law schools, it is a matter of personal choice which one to choose to go to. Each have their own relative strengths.

In your case, I suppose it is a choice of whether you prefer the Ivy League or the Public Ivies ( eg UCLA, Berkeley..etc. ).

I for one will choose the Ivy League if I am to spend that kind of money as the Ivy League is more well known nationally and internationally. At least that is the general perception.

Did you know that among the Ivy League members, Cornell is the most expensive law school when it comes to fees? I wonder why? There must be a reason for this.

Good luck with your choices.

King' s is a fine law school. No doubt about that. But amongst the London Colleges, UCL is considered the most prestigious.

But if I were to choose between King's and Cornell, I will go for Cornell.
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